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scarecrow119

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Hey guys,

I am hesitant to call name the provider. She posts on here and is welcome to discuss or reach out in PM.

I saw a provider today. She requested a deposit, which I was hesitant to do but did anyway. She gave me instructions on how to send her the deposit via crypto. Because the machine did not make change I had to send double the requested deposit. I did not mind since it was not very much money. I went to the incall and she was late by a little over 10 minutes. She offered a discount on the rate over text but did not mention it in the room. Either way, she asked for the donation, I double checked it in the room to make sure the amount was correct which was what we discussed over text minus the deposit. The session was super short as I was on a schedule and i did not have time to make up for her being late. Somewhat my fault as I did not leave myself time on the back end. Also of note, we did not really click, it was rushed (shared fault). Our body shapes did not mesh well at all. It was not terrible for me but not a repeat.

About 5hrs afterward, I get a text stating I shorted her about 25 dollars and that she was putting me on the bad date list. I texted back making sure that she accounted for the crypto deposit but I think she has blocked my number. I have no idea how she came to 25 dollars since everything was in 20 increments. Also, no chance I gave her a 5 by mistake as my wallet was empty before I took cash out for the appointment.

Not sure what to do here. Looking for advice. I would like to resolve this amicably
 

scarecrow119

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Because it seems like a simple misunderstanding I am hesitant to name the provider. I am however concerned at how quickly she decided that I needed to go on the bad dates list. Is this normal for providers to do this. Early in my hobby career, I did actually short a provider, completely unintentionally. I found the missing cash in my car after she texted I had shorted her. I felt really bad and drove to her place to make it right. It is the reason why I double check before handing the cash over.

I am also a bit put off by the fact she offered a discount because of making me wait which she never mentioned in the room and then chooses to escalate to the bad date list over what I imagine is her mistake.
 

ButtMonkey

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Move on… money discussion rarely end well.
She showed you the kind of Customer Service she offer by blacklisting you rather then giving you a chance to make it right.

over the years ive Overpaid, underpaid, even forgot to leave complete payment on more then one occasion. It was always resolved by an honest discussion between two adults. And have never been blacklisted (as far as I know…)
 

Casual sampling

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Move on… money discussion rarely end well.
She showed you the kind of Customer Service she offer by blacklisting you rather then giving you a chance to make it right.

over the years ive Overpaid, underpaid, even forgot to leave complete payment on more then one occasion. It was always resolved by an honest discussion between two adults. And have never been blacklisted (as far as I know…)
Tots agree. Move on. You already indicated she is not a repeat for you? 5hrs later you receive a text about $25? About 4.5hrs too late imo to have this bugging you.
 

Gurney

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And SHE was late by 10 minutes. Why is it your fault for not having more time later because she was late ????

If I plan something for an hour, whatever it is, from 10:00 to 11:00, I do not plan an extra 30 minutes because some could be late... Unless it is something with healthcare. lol They are NEVER on time...
 

whiskeysour

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I would move on, not pay.
Unless he gave her his real ID. In which case, it's very important that he resolve this issue with her, via a third party if necessary, otherwise he's blacklisted *for real* from any future encounter with a provider who requires screening
 

scarecrow119

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Unless he gave her his real ID. In which case, it's very important that he resolve this issue with her, via a third party if necessary, otherwise he's blacklisted *for real* from any future encounter with a provider who requires screening
I did not give her ID. I sent the deposit via crypto to avoid doing an transfer. It really comes down to my hobby number and now I guess my terb handle being out there on a potential bad date list. I am thinking I may go the PM route and see if we can resolve it that way.
 

canuckhooker

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Depending on the provider I would be concerned about the blacklist thing. If she shares that with others, or tells others not to see him for what seems to be a misunderstanding, then he will have difficulties in this town. I do know that SPs and MAs talk amongst each other and share info on clients. They don't all move in the same circle so it is not shared universally but it could effect future sessions for sure.
 

pusher69

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OP, just move on. If you know you paid in full, there is not more you can do.
I have had similar scenarios where the SP had accused me of not paying (drunk/stoned) and I suggest she look at her money stash and confirm there were $50s in sequential order (as they would be from me)
 

peachkitten44

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I’m telling my side of the story through tears and it will be the first and last time that I tell it and please do not contact me with questions — I have a business to open that I have been working extremely hard on

I only received $15 in my cryptocurrency wallet. Considering that the ATM is located inside of a convenience store - change is easy to come by. There was only $160 in the envelope, totalling $175. This is $25 less than the $200 discounted appointment I offered you.

You barged into my apartment and immediately began groping me and trying to force your tongue down my throat. You nearly tore the dress I was wearing in your haste to get it off. You were rough with me when I asked you several times not to be — knowing that one of my restrictions is no aggressive behaviour/touching. My body still hurts from how rough you were yesterday and I have bruises. Due to past traumas your aggressive, thoughtless behaviour filled me with such anxiety that I was paralyzed to stop you although inside my mind was screaming and crying. You tried several times to slip off your condom thinking I wouldn’t notice but fortunately I have had more experience than I care to admit to with every trick in the book. I am absolutely appalled that you saw nothing wrong with any of your actions. And now I see you’ve posted on Terb for me to have to explain all of this live to everyone because you’ve painted me out to be unreasonable and I guess you feel the need to be seen as the injured party over my being ten minutes late.

It took me a good hour to stop shaking and crying once you left. I cancelled an appointment with someone else that I had been really looking forward to because I was in such a bad way I didn’t want to be seen by anyone. I absolutely did not want to bring all of this up with you; I wanted to add you to the blacklist and never speak with you or to you again. But this was about far more than just the $25 — keep the $25 and please don’t ever contact me again.




#Admin #Mod I would appreciate this thread being closed. I have blocked OP myself as well.
 

scarecrow119

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Wow, this is quite the story.

Not sure how 200, is a discounted rate on 15 minutes. I was not aware only 15 dollars was transferred via crypto. I put 20 to it machine. Hence no change. I am positive I gave you 180. BTW, I did not leave an envelope I counted out the cash and left it on the nightstand.r

As for being rough. I did try to get you to move as I have some mobility issues and the fact that we both have large stomachs made it a challenge for me to get into a good position. You did mention it to me, that it made you uncomfortable and I let you know it was a challenge for me to move when we changed positions and we moved on. Any roughness was not intentional. As for the condom, that is nuts, I checked once to make sure it was not slipping off.

I tried to message you via PM and you did not respond. I would have preferred that. You have chosen to out yourself and let everyone know the type of service you provide.

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I agreed to 200 hhr pse. I had to drive past her incall to deposit 10 dollars into her crypto wallet. Macine only took Bill's so I sent her 20 (all I had was 20s from the ATM next to the crypto machine).

Got to her incall a few minutes early. She was 15 minutes late. She texted me while I waited at the door and offered a discount. I could not stay later so it ended up only being 15 minutes. She answered the door wearing a short dressing gown. I tried to kiss her but it was obvious this was going nowhere. No further mention of the discount. I hung my coat on a chair in the kitchen on the way to the bedroom. We got started and I stripped off. She asked for the envelope at this point which killed the mood even further. I did not have an envelope so I counted out 180 from the 280 I had in my wallet and left it on the low table she had next to the bed.

She started with me on my back with a baby. I was in a rush, so I asked if we could get to the main event. I tried to get on top in missionary. She is quite thin with a large stomach. I have a big gut as well and this was not a good position. I tried to get some leverage as I kept slipping out. She complained I was being to rough. I tried to explain that I have a mobility issue(fractured femur that has not healed properly) plus I am heavy so it makes it difficult to move. We tried doggy but my hips could not take it. We tried reverse cowgirl and I tried playing with her butt(since Greek was on the menu). This was not appreciated. At this point I had to stop. Tried to move her back to missionary and lift her hips to get a better position. She complained she was not that bendy and is not 20 anymore. I decided it was time to wrap up and asked if I could COF/CIM, which I did. Afterward, she cleaned herself with baby wipes. I had to get up and grabbed my own. We chatted while I got dressed and I mentioned I was taking French, she jokingly said I could practice French with her.

I left thinking it was a pricey meh session given the only pse part was the COF. 5 hours later I get a text stating I shorted her and was being added to the bad dates list. Then she accuses me on this board of being abusive. If what I describe above is abusive, then I guess I fit the bill.
 
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