Respect: president of Ukraine remains in Kiev

[Valcazar]

I can bet any money, that he was advised to do so by his western advisers, so that he can make a stink how Russians mostly shoot civilians. I’m sure
That will be tomorrow’s headline on the news. This president is the biggest manipulative shitshow I have seen in years.

The problem with that bet is you won't believe any evidence to the contrary.
If reports come out that he was advised by the US to leave, you will say they are lies, and not pay up.

That's even fair - there is a propaganda war going on.
It just makes the bet comment silly.

 

[Crystal]

The problem with that bet is you won't believe any evidence to the contrary.
If reports come out that he was advised by the US to leave, you will say they are lies, and not pay up.

That's even fair - there is a propaganda war going on.
It just makes the bet comment silly.

The bet wasn’t about him staying or leaving.. it was about giving untrained civilians expensive guns. Russians have an order not to touch civilians.. now that they have guns there will be no choice and he will turn to the world with tears how many civilians got killed.. and how he needs help etc. Except for lives will be lost, fingers pointed to Russians, but the truth is it will be all on him with his decisions

 

[Leimonis]

Lol.. All of those wars and sanctions are a great reminder for me how fortunate I am to have come to this country long time ago…

you can take a girl out of the village but you cannot take the village out of the girl there is no way any western advisor would be suggesting giving weapons to civilians. That, if reported, would be the end of their career probably. Also, Soviets have been giving weapons to civilians (partisans) since at least WW2.

 

[Valcazar]

The bet wasn’t about him staying or leaving.. it was about giving untrained civilians expensive guns. Russians have an order not to touch civilians.. now that they have guns there will be no choice and he will turn to the world with tears how many civilians got killed.. and how he needs help etc. Except for lives will be lost, fingers pointed to Russians, but the truth is it will be all on him with his decisions

If only the Russians wouldn't shoot the civilians, eh?
That would wreck his whole plan!

 

[Crystal]

you can take a girl out of the village but you cannot take the village out of the girl there is no way any western advisor would be suggesting giving weapons to civilians. That, if reported, would be the end of their career probably. Also, Soviets have been giving weapons to civilians (partisans) since at least WW2.

Hmm weird that move seems to be supported and admired by all the city people on here

 

[jcpro]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497780640502145024

 

[danmand]

Hmm weird that move seems to be supported and admired by all the city people on here

Most Terb members are fascinated by military and war. Dare I say armchair generals.

 

[seth gecko]

These aren't exactly |"untrained civilians", following the 2014 Crimean invasion, Ukraine reinstated mandatory military service, and upon completion of that mandatory term, they remain inactive reserves well into their golden years - no "Freedom 55 retirement package for those folks.
Most automatic rifles are surprisingly simple to use & maintain, once you've been properly trained, that training kicks in after a brief refamiliarization even after many years.
Machiavelli wrote on the value of mercenary, auxiliary and native troops; its required reading in just about every military college.

 

[y2kmark]

Everybody can chose if the want to be martyrs.

But nobody should send other people to be martyrs. Giving a civilian a rifle and telling him to go after a tank, is no better than the sending people out with suicide vests.

They know the Russians, long standing feud. I remember what one of the ME Imams said when asked how they could employ suicide bombers "because we don't have F-15s". It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, unless you really like giving blow jobs!!!

 

[y2kmark]

Most Terb members are fascinated by military and war. Dare I say armchair generals.

Opinions are like assholes - round and hairy and everybody has one...

 

[JohnLarue]

both Russians and Ukrainians always fought like that when the war was on their turf

This is not the first disagreement between these two peoples
A lot of very nasty and barbaric history
so surrendering must almost be unimaginable for them.
Better dead than red? - Yeah I can see that,

still, sending untrained civilians to attack todays modern tanks is a death sentence with next to zero probability of success

If the strategy is to delay and hope the west intervenes that's not going to happen.

 

[poker]

The bet wasn’t about him staying or leaving.. it was about giving untrained civilians expensive guns. Russians have an order not to touch civilians.. now that they have guns there will be no choice and he will turn to the world with tears how many civilians got killed.. and how he needs help etc. Except for lives will be lost, fingers pointed to Russians, but the truth is it will be all on him with his decisions

He was already attacking civilians. Reports of schools, several apartment buildings, an ambulance was a target…. So it’s not a case of “well, now the Russians will do this…”. It was already happening.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

The bet wasn’t about him staying or leaving.. it was about giving untrained civilians expensive guns. Russians have an order not to touch civilians.. now that they have guns there will be no choice and he will turn to the world with tears how many civilians got killed.. and how he needs help etc. Except for lives will be lost, fingers pointed to Russians, but the truth is it will be all on him with his decisions

Russians have an order not to touch civilians..
You are full of shit comrade.

 

[Crystal]

He was already attacking civilians. Reports of schools, several apartment buildings, an ambulance was a target…. So it’s not a case of “well, now the Russians will do this…”. It was already happening.

Those are not accurate reports. And it is Ukrainian propaganda.

Shelling attack on school kills two teachers in DPR’s Gorlovka, mayor says

www.google.ca

Is that the schools everyone keeps talking about?

Russians have an order not to touch civilians..
You are full of shit comrade.

tank clearly wasn’t aiming for that car that shouldn’t be there to begin with.. and on Russian tv they say that building explosion is being investigated as there is an order to stay away from residential/civilian targets.
And as for school.. is that the school everyone keeps talking about?

Well, that came from Ukrainian forces.
And here a few interesting links for those who laugh at Putin’s neo-nazi references

Ukraine's far-right Svoboda party hold torch-lit Kiev march

Ukraine's far-right Svoboda party holds a torch-lit procession through the capital Kiev, to mark the birthday of a WWII-era partisan leader.

www.google.ca

Far-right party jeopardises Ukraine’s path to democracy

Following days of protest and the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine’s new interim government was announced on 26 February 2014. This is not an ordinary government. Politicians linked to the…

www.google.ca

Facebook 'Bans' Ukrainian Far-Right Group Over 'Hate Speech' -- But Getting Rid Of It Isn't Easy

Facebook tells RFE/RL that it has officially banned the far-right Azov movement from its platform. But the company's lax enforcement means pages belonging to the group keep popping up and its leaders are still there as well.

www.google.ca

 

[poker]

Those are not accurate reports. And it is Ukrainian propaganda.

Shelling attack on school kills two teachers in DPR’s Gorlovka, mayor says

www.google.ca

Is that the schools everyone keeps talking about?

tank clearly wasn’t aiming for that car that shouldn’t be there to begin with.. and on Russian tv they say that building explosion is being investigated as there is an order to stay away from residential/civilian targets.
And as for school.. is that the school everyone keeps talking about?

Well, that came from Ukrainian forces.
And here a few interesting links for those who laugh at Putin’s neo-nazi references

Ukraine's far-right Svoboda party hold torch-lit Kiev march

Ukraine's far-right Svoboda party holds a torch-lit procession through the capital Kiev, to mark the birthday of a WWII-era partisan leader.

www.google.ca

Far-right party jeopardises Ukraine’s path to democracy

Following days of protest and the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine’s new interim government was announced on 26 February 2014. This is not an ordinary government. Politicians linked to the…

www.google.ca

Facebook 'Bans' Ukrainian Far-Right Group Over 'Hate Speech' -- But Getting Rid Of It Isn't Easy

Facebook tells RFE/RL that it has officially banned the far-right Azov movement from its platform. But the company's lax enforcement means pages belonging to the group keep popping up and its leaders are still there as well.

www.google.ca

Keep spreading the lies….

 

[ptp]

Maybe we can do a trade with JT , Zelensky is Bilingual


During his inaugural address in 2019, Zelensky told lawmakers: “I do not want my picture in your offices: the President is not an icon, an idol or a portrait. Hang your kids' photos instead, and look at them each time you are making a decision.”

 

[Crystal]

Keep spreading the lies….

Apparently no one knows what’s truth and what’s a lie at the moment

 

[Frankfooter]

tank clearly wasn’t aiming for that car that shouldn’t be there to begin with.. and on Russian tv they say that building explosion is being investigated as there is an order to stay away from residential/civilian targets.
And as for school.. is that the school everyone keeps talking about?

Why would you believe what is posted on Russian tv?

 

[Crystal]

Why would you believe what is posted on Russian tv?

I don’t. I’m following both sides for any developments and don’t believe anything at all..
Just watched one more Putin’s chilling speech to commanders to get the military ready..e.g nato

 

[poker]

Apparently no one knows what’s truth and what’s a lie at the moment

It’s not hard to figure out actually.

It was Putin who built up an army on his boarder.

It was Putin who invaded Ukraine.

It was Putin who took over the Ukrainian TV networks in 2014 and flooded Eastern Ukraine with propaganda images of atrocities that did not occur.

It was Putin who sent in his army disguised as civilians willing to fight for independent Ukrainian states.

It was Putin who created a fake genocide in the Ukraine and sent in his troops as “Peace Keepers”

You believe the lies all you want. But I know what peace keeping looks like. There is very little peace over there right now.

Oh, and by the way… it was not the car that was not supposed to be there. It was the Russian tank. By my guess, it should have been in Russia.