Analysis & prediction on Ukraine from 6 years ago: “The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path & the end result is Ukraine is going to get wre

Leimonis

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Until Ukraine there have been very few countries attacked.
Sorry I don't understand. Russia attacked Moldova in 1990, Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014. USA attacked shitload of countries. All of those attacked countries had something in common: none of them had nukes.
 

toguy5252

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Sorry I don't understand. Russia attacked Moldova in 1990, Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014. USA attacked shitload of countries. All of those attacked countries had something in common: none of them had nukes.
Correct. Russia has been the aggressor in most and most have been former members of the USSR which were left decimated by their time as a part. The US in Iraq and Afghanistan are really a different category. Who but a madman would actually give the order.
 

Butler1000

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Correct. Russia has been the aggressor in most and most have been former members of the USSR which were left decimated by their time as a part. The US in Iraq and Afghanistan are really a different category. Who but a madman would actually give the order.
Iraq was not a different category. Nor Afghanistan after Bin Ladin was killed. Destabilizing Libya? Same with Syria that created the Migrant Crisis? They are also supplying bombs, arms and drone strikes in more places. Economic warfare on Cuba, Venezuela?

I can go on. Iran Contra?
 
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mandrill

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Iraq was not a different category. Nor Afghanistan after Bin Ladin was killed. Destabilizing Libya? Same with Syria that created the Migrant Crisis? They are also supplying bombs, arms and drone strikes in more places. Economic warfare on Cuba, Venezuela?
I can go on. Iran Contra?
Syria's pretty much Russia's doing. And Russia also spent a ton of time in Ghan. And Russia genocided Chechnya pretty thoroughly before installing a puppet. That said, the US' record in the 3rd World is pretty bad.

Russia is also currently destabilizing Central Africa and Libya and has (government sponsored) mercs in both places.
 

basketcase

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The west could have let Russia join NATO in the 90's or not backed the wacko 2014 coup.
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Was there ever even a hint that Russia seriously wanted to join NATO?

Regardless, that is ancient history. What is current history is Russia sending a military invasion into another country. Amazing when people allegedly supporting of human rights try to take an obviously anti-human rights tack.
 

basketcase

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Iraq was not a different category. Nor Afghanistan after Bin Ladin was killed. Destabilizing Libya? Same with Syria that created the Migrant Crisis? They are also supplying bombs, arms and drone strikes in more places. Economic warfare on Cuba, Venezuela?

I can go on. Iran Contra?
Both are a different category as they both had widespread international support and no major powers opposing them. Blaming the US for Syria is dumb.

If it was just the Eastern 'republics' I'd compare it to Kosovo but NATO didn't use that as an excuse to take over Serbia.
 

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Russian invasion: Biden in 2019 said 'imagine what can happen in Ukraine' under Trump
 

SeaGirth

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When China see how impotent Joe and the West really are, it will move on Taiwan.
 

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