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JohnLarue

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Better to create a bogeyman, namely the Trudeau PMs to blame for the increasingly unmarketable Alberta bitumen than face the truth.
Switching gears I see
Lots of demand for oil, the issue is greeting it different markets

Better for you to defend an moron with a seven year history of complete incompetence and vilify a whole province who has created massive economic wealth for our country


Better to ingrain in ever Alberta school kid that it is Ottawa, under the Trudeau’s that Alberta has been busted than to teach them the truth that Canada oil sand projects are not competitive on the world stage, not with oil prices where they are and the momentum globally to move away from fossil fuels
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Again you speak but do not have a clue
Oil sands operations are profitable, Suncor has driven its operating cost per barrel down continuously


Currently only Irving in the Maritimes is importing a declining amount of non USA oil and that is not what is fueling my car in the GTA. My car is fueled mostly by Canadian oil from Alberta with some Texas oil. Since the pandemic, due to falling demand, Canada dramatically reduced oil imports from non USA sources.
Fine, Quebec receives the Saudi oil
Still undeniable you pay more for TWI than Alberta receives for its WCS -
Trudeau/ Butts strategy is to keep WCS landlocked - huge efforts by our Prime minister to damage our energy sector - This is an unbelievably corrupt action against Canadian citizens in Alberta
"We are all in this together " - what an ignorant thing to say

The Canadian Energy Centre which is the propaganda arm of the Kenney government continues to spew out inaccuracies about the extent to which Canada imports non USA oil as they desperately seek their difficult to sell bitumen.
Now that is just plain silly nonsense

Notice the “ethical oil” theme was a dog that understandably did not hunt.
Your dog should teach you how to think

Still it is a disgrace that Canada needs to import oil in the first place and it is in all Canadians interest for the Canadian oil patch to become profitable again with Alberta known for energy production
That will require a change of political leadership in Ottawa
It will not happen with the moron Justin/ Gerald in charge

and not for the production of vile and divisive right wing hatred groups like those present in the Ottawa occupation[
" vile and divisive" hate groups?
Take a dollar and go buy yourself a clue
 

danmand

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Better to create a bogeyman, namely the Trudeau PMs to blame for the increasingly unmarketable Alberta bitumen than face the truth. Better to ingrain in ever Alberta school kid that it is Ottawa, under the Trudeau’s that Alberta has been busted than to teach them the truth that Canada oil sand projects are not competitive on the world stage, not with oil prices where they are and the momentum globally to move away from fossil fuels.
Currently only Irving in the Maritimes is importing a declining amount of non USA oil and that is not what is fueling my car in the GTA. My car is fueled mostly by Canadian oil from Alberta with some Texas oil. Since the pandemic, due to falling demand, Canada dramatically reduced oil imports from non USA sources. The Canadian Energy Centre which is the propaganda arm of the Kenney government continues to spew out inaccuracies about the extent to which Canada imports non USA oil as they desperately seek their difficult to sell bitumen. Notice the “ethical oil” theme was a dog that understandably did not hunt. Still it is a disgrace that Canada needs to import oil in the first place and it is in all Canadians interest for the Canadian oil patch to become profitable again with Alberta known for energy production and not for the production of vile and divisive right wing hatred groups like those present in the Ottawa occupation
You know better ......................................................................................................................................................than to argue with a certain guy.
 
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lomotil

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You know better ......................................................................................................................................................than to argue with a certain guy.
Almost………
 

lomotil

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Switching gears I see
Lots of demand for oil, the issue is greeting it different markets

Better for you to defend an moron with a seven year history of complete incompetence and vilify a whole province who has created massive economic wealth for our country


.
Again you speak but do not have a clue
Oil sands operations are profitable, Suncor has driven its operating cost per barrel down continuously



Fine, Quebec receives the Saudi oil
Still undeniable you pay more for TWI than Alberta receives for its WCS -
Trudeau/ Butts strategy is to keep WCS landlocked - huge efforts by our Prime minister to damage our energy sector - This is an unbelievably corrupt action against Canadian citizens in Alberta
"We are all in this together " - what an ignorant thing to say


Now that is just plain silly nonsense


Your dog should teach you how to think


That will require a change of political leadership in Ottawa
It will not happen with the moron Justin/ Gerald in charge



" vile and divisive" hate groups?
Take a dollar and go buy yourself a clue
Now we are talking, the truck protest is veiled attempt by cross border CanadIan truckers who happened to be anti -vaxxers
barred by the USA from entering due to their non vaccine status who are being used as useful idiots by alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers like Candace Bergen et al and vile hate groups from across Canada, Alberta in particular. Many of these domestic terrorist are CERB receiving ingrates ! The Alberta advantage has been lost due to world economics, geopolitics, Alberta’s gross mismanagement of their Heritage Fund, lack of impetuous by the Harper Government to protect against down cycles in the price of oil, the idiotic Alberta mentality of not imposing a PST as a hedge against a rainy day and not much effort to diversify the economy beyond oil and beef.
Vaccines mandates are a mirage for what is happening in Ottawa but directly related to Alberta’s woes.
Again we are all in this together, so why further alienate ourselves. We must work together to dig ourselves out of this pandemic and economic quagmire and not create anymore toxic trailing ponds


Why do Trudeau PMs hate Alberta so much in your opinion by the way?
 
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It's not a crime to be right-wing. I love being right-wing; it's so much more fun than being some Leftist Soyboy.
It's about time the Conservatives actually acted Conservative again. We need common sense in this increasingly clown world.
O'Toole is finally out. Many Canadians who don't think any party represents their views may be excited by a grass roots movement and show support for a more right-leaning party that gives them a true alternative. The Liberals can't hang on forever.
Go Pierre!
 

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I have several relatives who are conservative but now will vote Liberal or not vote at all. But they still will vote Ontario Conservative, not Federal.
 

JohnLarue

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Now we are talking, the truck protest is veiled attempt by cross border CanadIan truckers who happened to be anti -vaxxers
I see you never let an opportunity to incorrectly stereotype your ideolgical opposition


barred by the USA from entering due to their non vaccine status who are being used as useful idiots by alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers like Polly Bergen et al and vile hate groups from across Canada, Alberta in particular.
Hmm that sounds at odds with your "we are all in this together"

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots"

Many of these domestic terrorist are CERB receiving ingrates !
Ingrates?

Exactly who are they expected to grateful to ? Justin the moron ?
Odd how all the stuff you ever needed to survive was delivered by truckers

Hmm again you sound at odds with the lefts message of a year ago that ending CERB would be a cruel hardship for all the rent scofflaws

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots", again

The Alberta advantage has been lost due to world economics, geopolitics, Alberta’s gross mismanagement of their Heritage Fund, lack of impetuous by the Harper Government to protect against down cycles in the price of oil, the idiotic Alberta mentality of not imposing a PST as a hedge against a rainy day and not much effort to diversify the economy beyond oil and beef.
Socialists economics creates problems it does not solve them
What might work in Norway (damn lucky on the timing) is not applicable everywhere else
You do not have a clue what you are taking about
,
As I said, raise the capital. buys some land leases, rent the equipment's, drill the well cap it , build the 10- to 200 kms of pipe to connect to a mid-streamer and then market the oil

Until you do that , your understanding of our energy industry has the equivalent value of whatever is sticking to your shoe presently


Vaccines mandates are a mirage for what is happening in Ottawa but directly related to Alberta’s woes.
Oh, vaccines are a mirage... yet you demand making this mirage mandatory , despite too many fully vaxxed cases to count


Again we are all in this together, so why further alienate ourselves.
Holy shit, I can not believe you

Based on your earlier characterization of your fellow Canadians anti -vaxxers, useful idiots , alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers, vile hate groups CERB receiving ingrates idiotic Alberta mentality
Somehow I do not get images of all Canadians holding hands singing Cumbayà around the campfire in a show of unity - one of your lot would complain we were creating Green Houses Gasses

Pick a theme,
nasty vindictive and bigotted
or
insincere slogan chanting blithering idealist

Hint: Don not mix them


Your attitude is as divisive as can be and your logic requires a significant upgrade



We must work together to dig ourselves out of this pandemic and economic quagmire and not create anymore toxic trailing ponds
Sorry, nobody with any sense wants to work with you

Why do Trudeau PMs hate Alberta so much in your opinion by the way?
It is useless to speculate on what motivates a morons divisive behaviors
I do not know and I do not care.
The sooner he becomes an ex PM, the better for all Canadians
 
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lomotil

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It's not a crime to be right-wing. I love being right-wing; it's so much more fun than being some Leftist Soyboy.
It's about time the Conservatives actually acted Conservative again. We need common sense in this increasingly clown world.
O'Toole is finally out. Many Canadians who don't think any party represents their views may be excited by a grass roots movement and show support for a more right-leaning party that gives them a true alternative. The Liberals can't hang on forever.
Go Pierre!
For the common good, a balance of right wing and left wing is necessary for good governance and checks and balances. Ultimately there is actually much overlapping of actions and policies, rhetoric and identity politics aside, no matter who is in power.
 

lomotil

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For the common good, a balance of right wing and left wing is necessary for good governance and checks and balances. Ultimately there is actually much overlapping of actions and policies, rhetoric and identity politics aside, no matter who is in power.
Some people you just cannot reach them. I don’t like the current situation anymore than you do. What we have here is failure to communicate. Alberta didn’t learn their lesson when they put in Notley did they ?
Enough is enough, the Canadian Armed Forces should have been already employed to end the siege in our nation‘s capital where a parallel power is trying to destabilize and remove a government which was elected by the people of Canada. The right to peaceful lawful protest has been exhausted a while back and now domestic terrorism has obstructed the rightful passage of Canadians through the streets of Ottawa, whether the passage be for medical emergencies, commerce or leisure and those physical, financial or political responsible for this insurrection should be brought to justice. The MAGA sycophants in the Conservative Party should be tried for treason.
Trudeau is showing either incredible restraint or cowardice. Ottawa’s mayor has declared a state of emergency, next it just might be the Premier Doug Ford who will declare a provincial state of emergency. Pierre Trudeau would have already had the streets cleared as he knew what do in crisis or with the oil patch in Alberta.
 

danmand

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I see you never let an opportunity to incorrectly stereotype your ideolgical opposition




Hmm that sounds at odds with your "we are all in this together"

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots"


Ingrates?

Exactly who are they expected to grateful to ? Justin the moron ?
Odd how all the stuff you ever needed to survive was delivered by truckers

Hmm again you sound at odds with the lefts message of a year ago that ending CERB would be a cruel hardship for all the rent scofflaws

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots", again



Socialists economics creates problems it does not solve them
What might work in Norway (damn lucky on the timing) is not applicable everywhere else
You do not have a clue what you are taking about
,
As I said, raise the capital. buys some land leases, rent the equipment's, drill the well cap it , build the 10- to 200 kms of pipe to connect to a mid-streamer and then market the oil

Until you do that , your understanding of our energy industry has the equivalent value of whatever is sticking to your shoe presently



Oh, vaccines are a mirage... yet you demand making this mirage mandatory , despite too many fully vaxxed cases to count



Holy shit, I can not believe you

Based on your earlier characterization of your fellow Canadians anti -vaxxers, useful idiots , alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers, vile hate groups CERB receiving ingrates idiotic Alberta mentality
Somehow I do not get images of all Canadians holding hands singing Cumbayà around the campfire in a show of unity - one of your lot would complain we were creating Green Houses Gasses

Pick a theme,
nasty vindictive and bigotted
or
insincere slogan chanting blithering idealist

Hint: Don not mix them


Your attitude is as divisive as can be and your logic requires a significant upgrade





Sorry, nobody with any sense wants to work with you



It is useless to speculate on what motivates a morons divisive behaviors
I do not know and I do not care.
The sooner he becomes an ex PM, the better for all Canadians
Now you see, Lomotil
 
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lomotil

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I see you never let an opportunity to incorrectly stereotype your ideolgical opposition




Hmm that sounds at odds with your "we are all in this together"

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots"


Ingrates?

Exactly who are they expected to grateful to ? Justin the moron ?
Odd how all the stuff you ever needed to survive was delivered by truckers

Hmm again you sound at odds with the lefts message of a year ago that ending CERB would be a cruel hardship for all the rent scofflaws

Useful people are at least consistent in message
You just took the useful , out of "Useful idiots", again



Socialists economics creates problems it does not solve them
What might work in Norway (damn lucky on the timing) is not applicable everywhere else
You do not have a clue what you are taking about
,
As I said, raise the capital. buys some land leases, rent the equipment's, drill the well cap it , build the 10- to 200 kms of pipe to connect to a mid-streamer and then market the oil

Until you do that , your understanding of our energy industry has the equivalent value of whatever is sticking to your shoe presently



Oh, vaccines are a mirage... yet you demand making this mirage mandatory , despite too many fully vaxxed cases to count



Holy shit, I can not believe you

Based on your earlier characterization of your fellow Canadians anti -vaxxers, useful idiots , alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers, vile hate groups CERB receiving ingrates idiotic Alberta mentality
Somehow I do not get images of all Canadians holding hands singing Cumbayà around the campfire in a show of unity - one of your lot would complain we were creating Green Houses Gasses

Pick a theme,
nasty vindictive and bigotted
or
insincere slogan chanting blithering idealist

Hint: Don not mix them


Your attitude is as divisive as can be and your logic requires a significant upgrade





Sorry, nobody with any sense wants to work with you



It is useless to speculate on what motivates a morons divisive behaviors
I do not know and I do not care.
The sooner he becomes an ex PM, the better for all Canadians

Some people you just cannot reach them. I don’t like the current situation anymore than you do. What we have here is failure to communicate. Alberta didn’t learn their lesson when they put in Notley did they ?
Enough is enough, the Canadian Armed Forces should have been already deployed and employed to end the siege in our nation‘s capital where a parallel power is trying to destabilize and remove a government which was elected by the people of Canada. The right to peaceful lawful protest has been exhausted a while back and now domestic terrorism has obstructed the rightful passage of Canadians through the streets of Ottawa, whether the passage be for medical emergencies, commerce or leisure and those physical, financial or political responsible for this insurrection should be brought to justice. The MAGA sycophants in the Conservative Party should be tried for treason.
Trudeau is showing either incredible restraint or cowardice. Ottawa’s mayor has declared a state of emergency, next it just might be the Premier Doug Ford who will declare a provincial state of emergency. Pierre Trudeau would have already had the streets cleared as he knew what do in crisis or with the oil patch in Alberta. You conveniently side step the question about why the Trudeau PMs do not like Alberta because there is no reason as they are not responsible for Albert’s failures or shortcomings.
 
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Some people you just cannot reach them. I don’t like the current situation anymore than you do. What we have here is failure to communicate. Alberta didn’t learn their lesson when they put in Notley did they ?
Enough is enough, the Canadian Armed Forces should have been already deployed and employed to end the siege in our nation‘s capital where a parallel power is trying to destabilize and remove a government which was elected by the people of Canada. The right to peaceful lawful protest has been exhausted a while back and now domestic terrorism has obstructed the rightful passage of Canadians through the streets of Ottawa, whether the passage be for medical emergencies, commerce or leisure and those physical, financial or political responsible for this insurrection should be brought to justice. The MAGA sycophants in the Conservative Party should be tried for treason.
Trudeau is showing either incredible restraint or cowardice. Ottawa’s mayor has declared a state of emergency, next it just might be the Premier Doug Ford who will declare a provincial state of emergency. Pierre Trudeau would have already had the streets cleared as he knew what do in crisis or with the oil patch in Alberta. You conveniently side step the question about why the Trudeau PMs do not like Alberta because there is no reason as they are not responsible for Albert’s failures or shortcomings.
I am not sure why Trudeau is so patient. Maybe he lacks his father's panache : " Watch me".

Or maybe he is very clever and letting the conservatives bury themselves deeper and deeper.
 

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I am not sure why Trudeau is so patient. Maybe he lacks his father's panache : " Watch me".

Or maybe he is very clever and letting the conservatives bury themselves deeper and deeper.
I am sure it's the latter. He seems like a real Machiavellian genius.
 

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I am not sure why Trudeau is so patient. Maybe he lacks his father's panache : " Watch me".

Or maybe he is very clever and letting the conservatives bury themselves deeper and deeper.
The convoy has lost all public support, waiting is smarter.
He can come out say, enough with the american money backing this protest and by the way, things are opening up because what the government told us to do worked.
 

JohnLarue

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Some people you just cannot reach them. I don’t like the current situation anymore than you do.
But your earlier characterization of your fellow Canadians anti -vaxxers, useful idiots , alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers, vile hate groups CERB receiving ingrates idiotic Alberta mentality sure does not help


What we have here is failure to communicate
.
You communicated your obnoxious and intolerant bigoted views clear enough before trying to pretend "We are all in this together"- now do what i tell you, you antii-vax, alt-right useful idiot ingrates
Had much luck with the Mr. Hyde/ Dr. Jekyll routine?

Alberta didn’t learn their lesson when they put in Notley did they ?
They sure did, after she made a mess the word was " NDP? NEVER AGAIN"


Enough is enough, the Canadian Armed Forces should have been already deployed and employed to end the siege in our nation‘s capital where a parallel power is trying to destabilize and remove a government which was elected by the people of Canada.
Do not be ridiculous
It is a group of Canadian citizens expressing their right to protest an overreach by a fool and to protect their freedoms
These protests are happening in lots of countries

Listen and listen carefully
Every person has the right to determine what gests injected into their bloodstream - No if and , buts or maybes about it


The right to peaceful lawful protest has been exhausted a while back
Not even close

How long did the pipline and railway protests last?
I believed they were rolling protests that never seemed to last


and now domestic terrorism has obstructed the rightful passage of Canadians through the streets of Ottawa,
Ottawa can push papers via work from home

whether the passage be for medical emergencies, commerce or leisure and those physical, financial or political responsible for this insurrection should be brought to justice
.


The MAGA sycophants in the Conservative Party should be tried for treason.
You have a nasty vindictive side to you as well
No doubt you cheered the BLM protest and somehow justified the looting arson and damage to private property
Guess what, the truckers have been non -violent, they cleaned up and even prepared some meals for the homeless in Ottawa

While Justin ran way, what a coward

Trudeau is showing either incredible restraint or cowardice.
He is a moron who painted himself into a corner, just like he did with the pipeline
A damn fools ideology which is based on the need to control other peoples behavior

Ottawa’s mayor has declared a state of emergency,
Sorry Climate Barbie used all of the emergency declaration up
"Its a climate emergency !!!", What an idiot

next it just might be the Premier Doug Ford who will declare a provincial state of emergency.
I do not think so

Pierre Trudeau would have already had the streets cleared as he knew what do in crisis or with the oil patch in Alberta.
No unlike Justin, Pierre was not entirely stupid
Pierre represent our country well internationally
Justin is laughing stock

You conveniently side step the question about why the Trudeau PMs do not like Alberta because there is no reason as they are not responsible for Albert’s failures or shortcomings.
Both made brutally foolish decisions which adversely Albertans and all Canadians
Pierre want to control the industry from Ottawa. That turned into a disaster
Justin wants to shut the industry down.- He is a moron

Do not ask me to explain any decision of a moron
 

JohnLarue

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Now you see, Lomotil
Are you two going form a vigilante group so you can get government officials to fulfil your vendettas against your ideological foes?
Taking license plates and IP addresses to give to the CRA and city hall are you?

"Go get em, them there right wingers are pissing me off"
"Here's what I want you to do

2 minutes latter
"Hey, there was no need to call security"

1 minute later
"ouch, oh. that's going to leave a mark, Noooooo!, ewe, yips , there goes a loafer, ouch"


I can hardly wait to see what lunacy you guys will come up next to punish fellow Canadians for exercising their right to protest

The real pathetic thing is you pick and choose who has the right to protest depending on where you slot them in your ideology spectrum
 

Frankfooter

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But your earlier characterization of your fellow Canadians anti -vaxxers, useful idiots , alt right wing groups, MAGA sympathizers, vile hate groups CERB receiving ingrates idiotic Alberta mentality sure does not help
You communicated your obnoxious and intolerant bigoted views clear enough before trying to pretend "We are all in this together"- now do what i tell you, you antii-vax, alt-right useful idiot ingrates
Had much luck with the Mr. Hyde/ Dr. Jekyll routine?
They sure did, after she made a mess the word was " NDP? NEVER AGAIN"
Do not be ridiculous
It is a group of Canadian citizens expressing their right to protest an overreach by a fool and to protect their freedoms
These protests are happening in lots of countries
Listen and listen carefully
Every person has the right to determine what gests injected into their bloodstream - No if and , buts or maybes about it
Not even close
How long did the pipline and railway protests last?
I believed they were rolling protests that never seemed to last
Ottawa can push papers via work from home
You have a nasty vindictive side to you as well
No doubt you cheered the BLM protest and somehow justified the looting arson and damage to private property
Guess what, the truckers have been non -violent, they cleaned up and even prepared some meals for the homeless in Ottawa
While Justin ran way, what a coward
He is a moron who painted himself into a corner, just like he did with the pipeline
A damn fools ideology which is based on the need to control other peoples behavior
Sorry Climate Barbie used all of the emergency declaration up
"Its a climate emergency !!!", What an idiot
I do not think so
No unlike Justin, Pierre was not entirely stupid
Pierre represent our country well internationally
Justin is laughing stock
Both made brutally foolish decisions which adversely Albertans and all Canadians
Pierre want to control the industry from Ottawa. That turned into a disaster
Justin wants to shut the industry down.- He is a moron
Do not ask me to explain any decision of a moron
When you put all the larue lines together they give you a better sense of his personality.
 
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