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STOP THE NEOCONS FROM STARTING A WAR!

Leimonis

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Yes, there's a Russian under every bed and two in the basement. They are even behind the Canadian truckers according to some moron from the CBC. Anyone who's against another war is clearly on the Putin's payroll. Facepalm.
And some of those Russians even got indicted for helping good Republicans!
Russia, If you are listening, please help the republicans again!
 
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Valcazar

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Yes, there's a Russian under every bed and two in the basement. They are even behind the Canadian truckers according to some moron from the CBC. Anyone who's against another war is clearly on the Putin's payroll. Facepalm.
Are you under the delusion Tucker is a Russian agent?
That's a weird thing to say.
 

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Valcazar

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No, it's a serious question.
I'm not accusing him of being a Russian agent, so I'm not sure why you reacted the way you did unless you think he's a Russian agent.
 

jcpro

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No, it's a serious question.
I'm not accusing him of being a Russian agent, so I'm not sure why you reacted the way you did unless you think he's a Russian agent.
I am.a Russian agent- Bond, Volodya Bond.
 

danmand

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jcpro

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Is your mother Tatiana?
No, Nadezhda. I get 2 rubles and 49 kopeks for every post on this board and a bonus of 100 rubles for every assassination of the enemies of Rodina.
 

basketcase

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I don't know what your problem is. I posted an article, clearly indicated too be authored by Eric Margolis.

I find most articles by Eric Margolis, including this one, to be interesting reading. I am sorry, if it offended you.
Do you care to comment on what you find to be interesting in the article? The normal conclusion when someone posts a view without comment is they support it.

The article is clearly trying to describe Putin as a victim of American adventurism. I suggest he's despot who is worried the power he holds over his neighbours is waning.
 

danmand

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Do you care to comment on what you find to be interesting in the article? The normal conclusion when someone posts a view without comment is they support it.

The article is clearly trying to describe Putin as a victim of American adventurism. I suggest he's despot who is worried the power he holds over his neighbours is waning.
I sometimes post articles that looks at events from an alternative viewpoint than the American.
Contrary to most people here, and I will include you, I like to look at events from different points of view.

As an example, even if you believe that America is completely innocent and Russia is completely aggressively intent on dominating the world, I think it is valuable to understand the issue from the adversary's point of view.

PS: For me, one thing that flags an opinion as propaganda is when instead of Russia, the opinion refers to Putin.
 
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I sometimes post articles that looks at events from an alternative viewpoint than the American.
Contrary to most people here, and I will include you, I like to look at events from different points of view.

As an example, even if you believe that America is completely innocent and Russia is completely aggressively intent on dominating the world, I think it is valuable to understand the issue from the adversary's point of view.

PS: For me, one thing that flags an opinion as propaganda is when instead of Russia, the opinion refers to Putin.
Basketcase's point is fair.
Sometimes the articles are worth reading but quite often I don't know why and assume its just not worth the time.
A quick line could help.
 

basketcase

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I sometimes post articles that looks at events from an alternative viewpoint than the American.
Contrary to most people here, and I will include you, I like to look at events from different points of view.

As an example, even if you believe that America is completely innocent and Russia is completely aggressively intent on dominating the world, I think it is valuable to understand the issue from the adversary's point of view.

PS: For me, one thing that flags an opinion as propaganda is when instead of Russia, the opinion refers to Putin.
Do you think that Russia isn't controlled by Putin?

And yes, the actions involved in this conflict are Russian expansionism because they don't like the fact one of their neighbours wants protection from being bullied. The neo-con Russian leader (since you don't want Putin named) has already successfully annexed part of The Ukraine and has been backing fighters in Eastern Ukraine. Accusing the US of wanting war because they don't like Russia threatening to take over another country is dumb.

As Franky says, any thing that is posted without commentary can be assumed to be an endorsement of those views.
 

Butler1000

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Do you think that Russia isn't controlled by Putin?

And yes, the actions involved in this conflict are Russian expansionism because they don't like the fact one of their neighbours wants protection from being bullied. The neo-con Russian leader (since you don't want Putin named) has already successfully annexed part of The Ukraine and has been backing fighters in Eastern Ukraine. Accusing the US of wanting war because they don't like Russia threatening to take over another country is dumb.

As Franky says, any thing that is posted without commentary can be assumed to be an endorsement of those views.
They want to ramp things up because the CEO's of the arms manufacturers do. They came out to shareholders and said as much. And the admin needs a distraction.

Thats what this is about.
 

basketcase

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They want to ramp things up because the CEO's of the arms manufacturers do. They came out to shareholders and said as much. And the admin needs a distraction.

Thats what this is about.
So the MIC is making Vlad deploy troops? All this time the MSM has convinced us that Putin is extremely intelligent but in reality it turns out he is so dumb he is being played like a fiddle by sleepy joe.
 

Butler1000

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So the MIC is making Vlad deploy troops? All this time the MSM has convinced us that Putin is extremely intelligent but in reality it turns out he is so dumb he is being played like a fiddle by sleepy joe.
NATO is by deploying troops and missile systems nearby in other former satellite states. Specifically the USA.

Russia has the right to deploy ON THEIR OWN SOIL as they please. The USA was the only nation screaming imminent attack, and btw I have a friend in logistics in the USA military . He has been on overtime for weeks before setting this up. They pre-planned this.

Meanwhile Ukraine, France, Germany, Russia etc have now basically told Biden to STFU and let the adults handle it. They won't be war.
 
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basketcase

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NATO is by deploying troops and missile systems nearby in other former satellite states. Specifically the USA.

Russia has the right to deploy ON THEIR OWN SOIL as they please. The USA was the only nation screaming imminent attack, and btw I have a friend in logistics in the USA military . He has been on overtime for weeks before setting this up. They pre-planned this.

Meanwhile Ukraine, France, Germany, Russia etc have now basically told Biden to STFU and let the adults handle it. They won't be war.
You seem to have an issue with causality and time and The Ukraine has the right to join whatever organizations they want.

And sorry for your Biden conspiracies but the UK were the first one to release statements on possible false flags.
 

danmand

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You seem to have an issue with causality and time and The Ukraine has the right to join whatever organizations they want.
But Central and South American countries do not have that right.
 

jsanchez

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T.O.
But Central and South American countries do not have that right.
So if Central/South American countries cannot join whatever organization they want (we know why),
therefore Ukraine should be denied that right and the Russian thug is justified and it's all on the neocons? Is that the logic?
 

Valcazar

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So the MIC is making Vlad deploy troops? All this time the MSM has convinced us that Putin is extremely intelligent but in reality it turns out he is so dumb he is being played like a fiddle by sleepy joe.
Only the US has agency, don't you know that?
There is literally nothing on the planet that happens except that the US makes it happen.
Everyone else is a puppet.

Sure, it might look like the person who decides whether or not Russia invades is Putin, but that's just an illusion man.
 
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