Pat King, one of the leaders.
I think the Freedom Convoy may have already accomplished something…
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No, you don't get it. Canadians insist on equal application of the law. If policing policy around one protest is to tolerate minor infractions of the law, that needs to the policy in respect of all protests.
Looking for underhanded ways to stop otherwise lawful protests is looking to stop democracy.
He also said the objective was to end the protests. I think he said the quiet part out loud on that one.
GoFundMe pulls plug on fundraiser for Ottawa convoy protesters
OTTAWA - Crowdfunding site GoFundMe will reimburse or redirect to charities the vast majority of the more than $10 million raised by demonstrators protesting COVID-19 measures in Ottawa, saying the event has become an occupation.www.thestar.com
Ottawa police deploy ‘surge’ in response to ongoing protest
Police Chief Peter Sloly says the patrolling officers will be focused on dealing with mischief, hate, harassment, threats and other intimidating behaviours.
The police will be busy then because that's what this has mostly been about.
Erm, I think the insurance policies in question would be subject to ANY TYPE of protesting -- not just the FreeDUMB Convoy. I'm for that.
If a bunch of tree huggers show up to a protest where their tree-huggery winds up in their cars getting damaged because they hugged a tree too hard and the tree becomes uprooted and lands on their cars, tough shit. Read the policy.
The rest of your post about stopping "democracy" is more of whining drivel.
I won't look for a statue celebrating you as an advocate for democracy anytime soon.
What did you think of the Ottawa police chief saying that the objective of his strategy is to "end the protests"? Do you think that's the job of a police chief? I always thought it was to protect and serve the public. Can't a Canadian protest indefinitely, as long as he/she doesn't break any laws? I guess the giveaway is that "Slow" is right in his name!
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I applaud the police chief -- he is serving the public, as you say, by working to "end the protest".
I had a conference call with colleagues earlier this week, one of them is in Ottawa and lives downtown. She said there is 24-hour noise from the protestors, constant horn-honking, even in the middle of the night, protesters walking into soup kitchens and demanding to be fed, protestors harassing passersby and my personal favourite, protesters SHITTING in public.
While I know not all or even most of these protestors are doing these things, the protest itself is resulting in this type of reprobate behaviour.
You have every right to protest to express your views. BUT what you do not have the right to do is interfere with MY life or anyone else's life while doing so. The instant what you're doing is interfering with what I am doing, you are crossing a line you have no right to cross.
I don't care if its the FreeDUMB Convoy or a bunch of hippies protesting a war, I don't want to hear their racket at 3 o'clock in the morning, because if I do, they are interfering with my rights.
A personal example: Years ago there was a guy living in the apartment above me. He worked nights and often on weekends, but on the last Friday of each month he didn't work, and he would get absolutely shit-faced drunk, crank his stereo to maximum volume and start singing on his balcony -- right above my bedroom from 2 am to 7am.
After I filed about half a dozen complaints against him, the landlord finally had enough of this cunt and evicted him.
No one's "rights" were violated. He had the right to drink, he had the right to listen to music, he had the right to sing. What he did not have the right to do was disturb the peace.
This is what some people such as yourself just cannot comprehend: we all have rights, and with those rights come responsibilities. If you're not going to be responsible, you lose those rights.
I don't applaud the Chief. His job is to end any illegal activity occuring in connection with the protest, not the protest itself. That's a distinction that really means a lot, and that no Police Chief should ever lose sight of. The police do not determine how long anyone can carry out a peaceful, lawful protest. It can literally go on forever. What the Chief said is so wrong at law that it might serve to undermine any legitimate policing activities he might otherwise direct. It was incompetent for him to use that language.
I agree with your point that the right to protest doesn't afford anyone the "right" to break the law (although generally small breaches of the law are not enforced by police during protests, for practical reasons), nor does the right to protest remove any of the rights held by other citizens. The vast majority of your concerns could be addressed just by handing out tickets under the municipal noise bylaw.
But you seem to have the wrong idea about how to apply these concepts. Sometimes the act of exercising civic rights does interfere with what other people want to do, and would otherwise have a right to do. Example? If I'm standing on the public sidewalk, you'll just have to live with the fact you can't stand in the exact same place. Some of our rights are "first come, first serve". Another example, if someone is out in public and speaking, you might have a hard time being heard if you choose to speak at the same time in the same place, and you certainly might have a hard time enjoying the silence you might prefer.
Protests are annoying, but democracy is sometimes a messy business.
p.s. What's with the extra big text?
Well, I agree with some of your points, others I am not so sure of, but we made some progress, so I will leave it at that and call it a day.
The extra big text is due to me having horrible astigmatism -- even with my reading glasses on I need to increase the font size in order to read. As evidence of this, I had to re-type what I was going to say because I through you wrote "p.s. What's with the extra big tent" -- I thought this was in reference to my comment about how I don't care if its the "convoy protesting or a bunch of hippies", and I was going to explain that it wasn't an ideological "big tent" but rather me not taking side on issues, LOL.
I was happy when Toronto was rid of that liar Slowly. But here he is again, screwing up policing in the nations Capital! Can't Canadians just buy him an island to live on somewhere?
it exposed the hypocrisy at all levels....
I think the Canadian right has finally found its Chosen Leader.
And to think this all started here in Canada.....Make me proud!
#EnoughisEnough.
A number of these outside Canada "truckers" convoys are fake footage from other events in the past. Not sure about this one.
Yeah, why would they go through all this to protest covid mandates when Finland has already announced they will be dropped in (I think) about three weeks?
At least they did not break down any statures as protesters did in Toronto last year.
