Fatphobia

[Mr.Know-It-All]

I can't dumb it down for you anymore than this - slow metabolism is a symptom of other factor, majority of the time that factor is not over eating. What part of any of this is hard for you?

That is not the reason why most fat people are fat. This is not a debate. Trade in your double X triple cheeseburgers and daily donuts for salads/fruit and do some actual exercises if you'd like to lose weight.

Begin taking accountability and make a change. This is how it's done:

This Trainer Gained 30kg Of Fat On Purpose, To Better Understand His Clients

Drew Manning had never experienced what it was to be overweight, and the physical and psychological hurdles that a lot of people face every single day.

www.menshealth.com.au

 

[massman]

That is not the reason why most fat people are fat. This is not a debate. Trade in your double X triple cheeseburgers for salads/fruit and do some actual exercises if you'd like to lose weight.

This is how it's done:

This Trainer Gained 30kg Of Fat On Purpose, To Better Understand His Clients

Drew Manning had never experienced what it was to be overweight, and the physical and psychological hurdles that a lot of people face every single day.

www.menshealth.com.au

Men’s Health, known for years as a top medical journal.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Men’s Health, known for years as a top medical journal.

Those in denial of simple healthy living only make things worse for themselves and others. Let's not pretend that eating habits and lack of physical activity isn't the reason for obesity.

Normalization of Plus Size and the Danger of Unseen Overweight and Obesity in England - PMC

This study aimed to investigate trends and sociodemographic factors underlying weight misperception in adults with overweight and obesity in England. This study used descriptive and logistic regression analyses based on a pooled nationally ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[fictionfactor]

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majority of Civi's are BBW

For the same reason you don't see obese people on the cover of magazines or as the star feature in movies and tv. It's a sign of poor health and/or poor lifestyle choices and is therefore unappealing to most consumers.

exactly, most women in public are overweight, seeing an escort is to see a beautiful young, thin woman, she needs to have sex appeal

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

The truthful response from the pro-obese crowd would be the following:

"I lack self-control so I over-indulge in tasty foods even though they're bad for my health and I don't like physical exertion so I don't exercise. I know that going to the gym once every 3 months to lift 5lb weights for 10 minutes is worthless but I do it so that I can claim that I'm physically active if a discussion necessitates it. These are the reasons why I'm fat and I'm okay with being fat. My love of food and relaxation take priority over being healthy or physically aesthetically appealing to the majority of the population. I've reduced my life expectancy and am dependent on all types of drugs for medical conditions resulting from consuming trash every day. This could be avoided but it takes work, effort, and willpower. I do not have that and I'm okay with it."

 

[massman]

Those in denial of simple healthy living only make things worse for themselves and others. Let's not pretend that eating habits and lack of physical activity isn't the reason for obesity.

Normalization of Plus Size and the Danger of Unseen Overweight and Obesity in England - PMC

This study aimed to investigate trends and sociodemographic factors underlying weight misperception in adults with overweight and obesity in England. This study used descriptive and logistic regression analyses based on a pooled nationally ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Look, no question that eating well and getting enough exercise is essential for good health, and avoiding many chronic illnesses, and in some cases, obesity included. Also, there’s no question that overeating, unhealthy foods and a sedentary lifestyle can lead to excess weight gain and many other chronic illnesses. In my own personal situation a decade or so ago I’d slowly gained 20lbs or more. For me, I was able to lose that simply by changing how I ate (basically eliminating all unhealthy snacks/ drinks, cutting my total carb intake) and getting into a form of exercise that I could do a number of hours a week that I enjoyed. This works for many people, but not for all and probably less so for people who have much more excess weight.

But the idea that just eating less and exercising more is the solution for all people who need to lose weight is that overly simplistic. This is why in studies of diet or exercise as treatments for obesity, the amount of weight loss is disappointing. The disconnect occurs because there is a tremendous variability between people, and even within the same person over time of how the body burns and stores energy. There are really important genetic factors. There are hormonal issues that impact on energy balance. And there is evidence that long term weight gain, can change the set point for how an individual handles energy balance, and how that person perceives fullness when they eat. Once excess weight is gained, some peoples bodies avidly try to retain those excess energy stores, and those changes I mentioned above are very hard to reverse.

One other thing to remember is that even if healthy diet and exercise don’t result in significant weight loss, your health will improve significantly and you will reduce risk of serious illness later in life.

 

[nervousintheservice]

I can't dumb it down for you anymore than this - slow metabolism is a symptom of other factor, majority of the time that factor is not over eating. What part of any of this is hard for you?

How does a slow metabolism break the laws of physics and thermodynamics, then? If you don't consume massive amounts of calories, where exactly is your body creating excess fat and energy stores from?

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you think a human body can magically create fat from nothing you need to go back to high school physics class.

 

[Jenesis]

Wait

How does a slow metabolism break the laws of physics and thermodynamics, then? If you don't consume massive amounts of calories, where exactly is your body creating excess fat and energy stores from?

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you think a human body can magically create fat from nothing you need to go back to high school physics class.

You do realize it is not about the body energy creating fat. It is about the metabolism and how it stores fat and at what rate

 

[Jasmina]

First off, metabolism isn't "creating/destroying" anything, it is using energy to fuel your body. Depending on the state of your body, and parts, it will either provide more fuel, or less. Like a car. Your entire post is a pile of word salad.

How does a slow metabolism break the laws of physics and thermodynamics, then? If you don't consume massive amounts of calories, where exactly is your body creating excess fat and energy stores from?

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you think a human body can magically create fat from nothing you need to go back to high school physics class.

 

[TimberOne]

People who make excuses stay fat.

People who get out of their comfort zone and take action, achieve results.

 

[danmand]

The law of physics is very simple:

Input - Output = Accumulation

No exceptions.

 

[onomatopoeia]

Where a woman's body stores fat is often a matter of genetic luck. I had a friendly relationship with an exotic dancer in 1992/93, (no 'take out', but she did attend a Maple Leafs - Penguins game with me at Maple Leaf Gardens, and we appeared briefly on Hockey Night in Canada). Her quote: "Everything I eat goes straight to my chest".

Exercise burns fat, but an individual has no control over the sequence of fat deposits that would be burned. If rigorous exercise serves only to reduce a woman's cup size, with no reduction to the size of her thighs or waist measurements, there can be a disincentive to continue.

Genetics is a big factor. Most people physically resemble their parents and ancestors. Certain ethnicities also tend to have a predominance of one body shape or another. A thick body type is common among many people with Northern European ancestry. During the Ice Age, when food was scarce for extended periods every year, individuals who could store significant amounts of body fat were more likely to survive until spring, and larger women were more likely to carry a child to term, have that child survive infancy, and be able to do it again, without dying in childbirth.

 

[danmand]

Genetics is a big factor. Most people physically resemble their parents and ancestors. Certain ethnicities also tend to have a predominance of one body shape or another. A thick body type is common among many people with Northern European ancestry. During the Ice Age, when food was scarce for extended periods every year, individuals who could store significant amounts of body fat were more likely to survive until spring, and larger women were more likely to carry a child to term, have that child survive infancy, and be able to do it again, without dying in childbirth.

That is not true, most Scandinavians have slender body types.

The ethnic groups I have noticed with a more "thick" body type are the native groups of Mexico.

 

[onomatopoeia]

One of several reasons why there are more large people today, as compared to 100 years ago, is World War I and World War II. Many of the best 'physical specimens' of Mankind were killed in action. Re-population was largely left to those deemed physically unfit for military service.

 

[danmand]

One of several reasons why there are more large people today, as compared to 100 years ago, is World War I and World War II. Many of the best 'physical specimens' of Mankind were killed in action. Re-population was largely left to those deemed physically unfit for military service.

I don't buy that assertion either. Military deaths were 1% of the worlds population. Can't have had that mush effect on obesity.

Besides, not nearly all soldiers were the best physical specimens.

 

[onomatopoeia]

... Certain ethnicities also tend to have a predominance of one body shape or another. A thick body type is common among many people with Northern European ancestry....

That is not true, most Scandinavians have slender body types.

The ethnic groups I have noticed with a more "thick" body type are the native groups of Mexico.

Thick body types are very common among Germanic/Teutonic and Slavic peoples. There are fewer Scandinavians in total than the number of endomorphic Germans and Poles living today.

During the Ice Age, Scandinavia would have been largely uninhabited. It's too far north for there to have been more than one season. People migrated there after the Ice Age ended.

 

[onomatopoeia]

I don't buy that assertion either. Military deaths were 1% of the worlds population. Can't have had that mush effect on obesity.

Besides, not nearly all soldiers were the best physical specimens.

World War I casualties

World War II casualties

Military and civilian casualties in many specific countries were significantly higher than 1%. There weren't any in Sub Sahara Africa.

 

[danmand]

Thick body types are very common among Germanic/Teutonic and Slavic peoples. There are fewer Scandinavians in total than the number of endomorphic Germans and Poles living today.

During the Ice Age, Scandinavia would have been largely uninhabited. It's too far north for there to have been more than one season. People migrated there after the Ice Age ended.

Thick body types are very common among Germanic/Teutonic and Slavic peoples. There are fewer Scandinavians in total than the number of endomorphic Germans and Poles living today.

During the Ice Age, Scandinavia would have been largely uninhabited. It's too far north for there to have been more than one season. People migrated there after the Ice Age ended.

MOst of Northern and central Europe including Germany was re-populated during the great migration period, long after the end of the ice ages.

 

[danmand]

World War I casualties

World War II casualties

Military and civilian casualties in many specific countries were significantly higher than 1%. There weren't any in Sub Sahara Africa.

Are you claiming that civilian casualties in the world wars were " the best 'physical specimens' of Mankind"?

I thought you were referring to male soldiers.

 

[massman]

How does a slow metabolism break the laws of physics and thermodynamics, then? If you don't consume massive amounts of calories, where exactly is your body creating excess fat and energy stores from?

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you think a human body can magically create fat from nothing you need to go back to high school physics class.

Respectfully, you only know half of what you are talking about. Of course you can’t violate the basic laws of thermodynamics. And fat is stored energy, that is a fact. So energy in equals energy out. But we can’t easily measure all of the energy out part of the equation. Nor can we totally accurate at the energy in part for each individual.

Now what we are referring to as “metabolism” here at least, is the energy required to do the things our body needs to do to stay alive. Some bodies are very good at conserving that energy “ie lower metabolic rate”. Others are not, so more energy is “wasted” doing the same breathing/ heart beating, digesting, thinking etc. This energy expenditure is quite variable. An extreme example might be in people with major metabolic issues, like low thyroid levels, who will gain more weight than normal, even
With the same energy intake. Which is also the case for how much energy we attribute to certain activities, we arbitrarily say that for a given body weight, running a mile burns x number of calories, while there is a lot of variability on how many calories individuals of the same weight will actually burn. Furthermore some foods (Eg amino acids from protein) can be used as energy OR to build tissue in our bodies. Differences in these pathways could potentially lead to differences in fat storage. Furthermore, we know certain food have X number of calories. But that number is basically derived from how much energy would be released if you actually burned that food . How much energy that is absorbed, not only depends on how much is eaten, but how much is actually digested and absorbed. And how much energy digestion and absorption uses up! So yes energy in = energy out, but be only have a crude estimate of either.

Differences in energy intake (ie eating) and expenditure due to physical activity cannot alone account for differences in body weight / fat stores in individuals. In fact calorie deprivation can actually lead to slowing of metabolism, to preserve energy stores. There is a whole hormonal system in the body just to manage energy storage in fat. Overeating with time can change the brain’s signals that manage energy intake (ie hunger and fullness). And just like every physiological system in the body, there is tremendous variation between individuals in how it works.

Like a car, if you drive at a certain optimal speed, (Eg 90-100 km)you will get good gas mileage. But the same car will burn way more gas if it is driven at an inefficient speed. The car is travelling the same distance, but burning more gas? Why? It’s the same amount of work (going from A to B) no? It’s because at certain conditions, more energy is consumed (ie wasted as heat) than in the optimal conditions.