O’Toole is out
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Seems like the truckers convoy did accomplish something.
That only means we are going to hate the new Conservative leader more. The Conservatives are no longer conservatives, they became an alt-right party, the old reform party with western interests only in mind.
Good Riddance.
Go Pierre Poilievre!
The Conservatives need a real conservative at the helm.
Go Pierre Poilievre!
The Conservatives need a real conservative at the helm.
O’Toole calls for 'balance' as Conservative MPs plunge party into leadership race — Global News
The Conservative Party was plunged back into leadership politics Wednesday as Erin O’Toole lost more than half his caucus and his job.
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O'Toole was a real conservative. He just was a semi-electable one. Majority of Canadians don't want a far-right leader (or leftist for that matter), they want centrists.
As I said in another thread, the PCs will likely pick someone who leans farther to the right, which will likely keep them in the opposition for a while. Now, all that being said, Trudeau keeps stepping in it, so eventually people will be hungry for a change and the PCs could come in from the cold. I think this will possible embolden Trudeau to do whatever the fuck he wants, knowing that the PCs cannot really mount an election campaign right now. Harper did it to the Liberals when they were in disarray. Makes a lot of sense.
Trudeau should spend 600 million on another election as soon as possible so he can loose the majority vote and form another minority government.
Sounds like a good plan.
I kinda grew to like the guy.
Now the Conservatives are in complete disarray. Third leader in 6 years? Doesn't look good frankly. To be permanently rebuilding is just a disaster. They keep looking for a magician who will win them power as opposed to standing behind a leader and building a power base from the ground up.
I'm not big on this Pierre Poilievre frankly. He seems like a bit of a nut. Maybe he will take some votes from the yahoos who support the PPC, but he's not going to attract many centrist voters.
I'd be down with Lisa Raitt. That's about the only conservative who comes to mind right now. (And I doubt she would run because she's otherwise occupied right now.) Rona Ambrose also comes to mind, but she's been out of the circus for quite some time.
It would be funny if Peter McKay decided to run again. Maybe 3 times is a charm.
Now the Conservatives are in complete disarray. Third leader in 6 years? Doesn't look good frankly. To be permanently rebuilding is just a disaster. They keep looking for a magician who will win them power as opposed to standing behind a leader and building a power base from the ground up.
I'm not big on this Pierre Poilievre frankly. He seems like a bit of a nut. Maybe he will take some votes from the yahoos who support the PPC, but he's not going to attract many centrist voters.
I'd be down with Lisa Raitt. That's about the only conservative who comes to mind right now. (And I doubt she would run because she's otherwise occupied right now.) Rona Ambrose also comes to mind, but she's been out of the circus for quite some time.
It would be funny if Peter McKay decided to run again. Maybe 3 times is a charm.
Error kept pandering to liberal voters. There is no point being an opposition leader if your platform and beliefs are similar to the party you are supposed to be opposing. Canadians want a clear choice between 2 different parties. There are lots of conservatives in this country just waiting for a leader who will acknowledge them instead of running away from them.
You may be surprised.
O'Toole made the fatal mistake of rising to a position in the CPC that was higher than where he could make his best contribution. I hope he realizes his mistake, and accepts a role as adviser to leadership, rather than sulk away because his ego can't manage this realization.
I remember when Ryan Doyle said Doug Ford had the star power, could win in Ontario, and make them a contender.
^^^^^
Canadians are non ideological and would vote for a monkey, if the monkey was "business as usual and no surprises ever". I might vote for Duggo, even though he's a moron, just because he doesn't rock the boat. That's why I voted for JT.
The last thing Central Canada will ever vote for is a far right ideologue from the Prairies. And the CPC can win every seat in SK twenty times over, it'll never overcome being hated in Montreal, Vancouver and the EGH.
Do we call him Poop Poop Poilievre or Poilievre Le Pew?
He is already gaining a lot of traction in Quebec. Which is instrumental to become PM of Canada. Only Harper was able to win Quebec. Poilievre will do better.
He is one of very few conservator that thinks a PM must speak both english and french in order to speak for all canadians. You may say it's easy for him as he's french. Wrong... He is not. Born in Alberta of a french father. His french is quite good.
But does he have Quebecois' best interest in mind or will he betray them by catering to Alberta's best interests?
Stupid, stupid move by the Conservatives -- A-1 dumbfuckery.
Although I have not voted Conservative since the days they were the Progressive Conservatives, I will say that O'Toole was the only visible hope of getting the CPC to go back to being the Progressive Conservatives, which is where they need to be.
O'Toole didn't lose the CPC the last election, the CPC lost because the party is steeped in angry US Republican types (think MP Candace Bergen wearing a MAGA hat) whose views do not match those of Canadians at large.
The CPC scrapped Canadian-style conservatism for US-style Republicanism -- which is never going to fly Canada-wide -- during the Harper years. The CPC desperately needs Ontario and urban Canadian votes in order to win elections. As long as they are taking the social conservative path, they do not stand a snowball's chance in hell of achieving that.
The CPC is little more than a regional grievance party for Alberta and Saskatchewan these days. That's it. There is so much infighting within the party that if five CPC MPs stand up to support a policy, five more will become enraged.
Denying climate change, denying science in general, being in favour of loose gun laws and having a party full of religious whackjobs is never, ever, ever going to fly with Canadians at large.
Good luck to the Conservatives; they're sure as hell going to need it.
Although I have not voted Conservative since the days they were the Progressive Conservatives, I will say that O'Toole was the only visible hope of getting the CPC to go back to being the Progressive Conservatives, which is where they need to be.
O'Toole didn't lose the CPC the last election, the CPC lost because the party is steeped in angry US Republican types (think MP Candace Bergen wearing a MAGA hat) whose views do not match those of Canadians at large.
The CPC scrapped Canadian-style conservatism for US-style Republicanism -- which is never going to fly Canada-wide -- during the Harper years. The CPC desperately needs Ontario and urban Canadian votes in order to win elections. As long as they are taking the social conservative path, they do not stand a snowball's chance in hell of achieving that.
The CPC is little more than a regional grievance party for Alberta and Saskatchewan these days. That's it. There is so much infighting within the party that if five CPC MPs stand up to support a policy, five more will become enraged.
Denying climate change, denying science in general, being in favour of loose gun laws and having a party full of religious whackjobs is never, ever, ever going to fly with Canadians at large.
Good luck to the Conservatives; they're sure as hell going to need it.
