Can weight loss help protect against Covid-19?

[mandrill]

The Ukrainian people are not very keen on minorities. The minorities like the Hutculs very simply lumped with the rest of the population and expected to homogenize. The Austria-Hungry or the Russian Empire never even gave them a second thought, as long as they stayed quiet and went about their business. Besides, those Karpatian and Galician groups were fairly small with barely their own languages- more like dialects in many cases. My great grandfather and grandmother did a lot of business with them, traveled extensively among them, etc. The events of the progressive West and East during the 20th century just about annihilated them.

Isn't that the same story with every European micro-group in the last 100 years?

How many people have heard of the East Frisians?

 

[jcpro]

Isn't that the same story with every European micro-group in the last 100 years?

How many people have heard of the East Frisians?

I have when I was reading up on the rise of the Hanseatic League- not the first but a significant step toward what became the Common Market in the post WW2 Western Europe.

 

[unassuming]

I have never seen so many fat people until I came to North America. Back in the old country obesity was considered a sign of illness or simply old age. All we have to do is to look at the beach pics from 60s and even 70s and see the progression of obesity among us. There wasn't one fat kid in the schools I attended in Europe, same with the military service. I look around now days and I no longer wonder why our healthcare system is a bottomless pit.

SuperSize Me!!

 

[mandrill]

I have when I was reading up on the rise of the Hanseatic League- not the first but a significant step toward what became the Common Market in the post WW2 Western Europe.

There are all sorts of odd micro-groups that have died out or almost died out. In Britain, there's Cornish - which is like Welsh. Also Manx - which is like Irish and is spoken on the Isle of Man, in the Irish Sea. And Norn, which is spoken in the islands off the west coast of Scotland and which is related to Norse.

 

[richaceg]

Does losing weight reduce Covid-19 risk? The increased risk has led many to wonder if losing weight might keep them from catching or getting sicker with Covid-19.

Ethically, it would be nearly impossible to do randomized controlled trials to determine this, according to Dr. David Kass, a cardiologist at Johns Hopkins Medicine. But scientists have seen how weight loss can help in trials for other diseases with similar problems.

"There's no question, in controlled trials with people who are obese and have heart failure, that if they go through a weight reduction or an exercise program or a combination, and we look at this marker of how they are doing, the answers to that are yes, there is evidence that weight loss is a good thing," Kass said.

A large retrospective study published last week in JAMA Surgery suggests that substantial weight loss makes a difference.

The study, looking at records from 20,212 people for more than six years, was funded by a grant from Medtronic, which makes devices for weight loss surgery.
The rates of positive Covid-19 tests were similar in the surgical and control groups: 9.1% and 8.7%, respectively. The weight loss among the group that had surgery was associated with a lower risk of hospitalization, need for supplemental oxygen and severe symptoms from a Covid-19 infection. This patient group also had a 53% lower 10-year cumulative incidence of all-cause non-Covid mortality, compared with the control group.
"The findings suggest that obesity can be a modifiable risk factor for the severity of Covid-19 infection," the study said.
Dr. Steven Nissen, a cardiologist with Cleveland Clinic who co-authored the study, said it's important to understand that weight loss is the key with this study, not the surgery itself.
The surgery just happens to be an effective way to lose weight.
"Losing weight is completely reversible," Nissen said. "As far as we can tell, if you lose weight, then your risk of serious Covid and Covid morbidity and mortality goes way down."

This is about as soft and as dubious as a highly biased study could possibly be. Weight is not going to affect if you catch COVID. It's not proven in any way to affect if your COVID is serious or not. But yes, if you are hospitalized with COVD and you have high blood pressure or heart issues or other health issues because you are grossly overweight, that is going to impact the outome.

maybe not weight but cardio might make a difference....

 

[jcpro]

There are all sorts of odd micro-groups that have died out or almost died out. In Britain, there's Cornish - which is like Welsh. Also Manx - which is like Irish and is spoken on the Isle of Man, in the Irish Sea. And Norn, which is spoken in the islands off the west coast of Scotland and which is related to Norse.

And Rugii or Lutici. There were literally hundreds of cultures that we know very little about or nothing at all. They existed for hundreds of years and then disappeared. Some got absorbed by others, some join the migrating nations and some were wiped out and enslaved. Very, very few like the Basque were able to survive. Pity

 

[squeezer]

maybe not weight but cardio might make a difference....

I do believe being in good shape helps with many illnesses but it is never a guarantee. A "fit" individual may have an underlying condition which they know nothing about, yet. Also, many who believe they are fit are actually far from it.

 

[mandrill]

Like I he wasn't Polish. I think he was an Hutcul.

So, JC. The small fraction of Eastern European history I know was that Uncle Joe force-marched the Ukrainians and Poles each and all to their respective sides of the international border in 1947 so that the Poles and Ukes wouldn't genocide each other's villages anymore.

Where did the Boykos, Lemkos and Hutsuls fit in all this?

 

[richaceg]

I do believe being in good shape helps with many illnesses but it is never a guarantee. A "fit" individual may have an underlying condition which they know nothing about, yet. Also, many who believe they are fit are actually far from it.

true but in better shape vs. a fat slob will have different takes...a guy who has trouble breathing after a back and forth trip to the kitchen might not fair well vs covid than a guy who runs 2km every night....

 

[squeezer]

true but in better shape vs. a fat slob will have different takes...a guy who has trouble breathing after a back and forth trip to the kitchen might not fair well vs covid than a guy who runs 2km every night....

I don't disagree with the odds are better with the 2k runner.

 

[jcpro]

There are all sorts of odd micro-groups that have died out or almost died out. In Britain, there's Cornish - which is like Welsh. Also Manx - which is like Irish and is spoken on the Isle of Man, in the Irish Sea. And Norn, which is spoken in the islands off the west coast of Scotland and which is related to Norse.

And Rugii or Lutici. There were literally hundreds of cultures that we know very little about or nothing at all. They existed for hundreds of years and then disappeared. Some got absorbed by others, some join the migrating nations and some were wiped out and enslaved. Very, very few like the Basque were able to survive. Pity

So, JC. The small fraction of Eastern European history I know was that Uncle Joe force-marched the Ukrainians and Poles each and all to their respective sides of the international border in 1947 so that the Poles and Ukes wouldn't genocide each other's villages anymore.

Where did the Boykos, Lemkos and Hutsuls fit in all this?

Those who protested got their heads nailed to the trees by their tongues, some got collectivized or shipped to Siberia, others became good Poles or Slovaks or Ukrainians and others still went West. Stalin and Roosevelt also moved millions of Germans from East Prussia, Silesia, Pomerania, Bohemia, etc. and dumped them beyond the Oder. Can't feel sorry for the Germans, really. But, the German civilians paid a horrible price for their leaders, to this day we have no idea how many starved, got murdered as a payback or simply shot on the spot by the impatient new masters. It's the part of history that's not really known outside that area.

 

[seagerbuzz]

Kind of hard to lose weight when all the gyms and are closed and organized sports have been cancelled.

 

[Greekgod69]

Can weight loss help protect against Covid-19? | CNN

In the holiday season, when the average American can easily pack on a few pounds, experts say there is another reason to pay attention to your weight: Covid-19.

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Is water wet? Studies suggest it may be but results are ultimately inconclusive.

 

[mandrill]

Kind of hard to lose weight when all the gyms and are closed and organized sports have been cancelled.

Jogging?... Long, brisk walks?

 

[seagerbuzz]

Jogging?... Long, brisk walks?

In this fucking weather. Have fun

 

[seagerbuzz]

Have you tried eating less?

Yes. People still have to be active

 

[barnacler]

It is a great un-discussed aspect of COVID - obesity is part of the big three triumvirate of risk factors: age, underlying medical conditions, and obesity. It has a very significant effect.

Covid-19 and Obesity: What Does it Mean For You? - Obesity Action Coalition

by Bharti Shetye (Dr. Abby), MD, FOMA, DABOM Winter 2021 In December 2019, a new disease emerged in the city of Wuhan, China that is capable of producing respiratory illness. We named this disease COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and thus far, it has infected more than 72 million people worldwide...

www.obesityaction.org

 

[Rako3]

It is a great un-discussed aspect of COVID - obesity is part of the big three triumvirate of risk factors: age, underlying medical conditions, and obesity. It has a very significant effect.

Covid-19 and Obesity: What Does it Mean For You? - Obesity Action Coalition

by Bharti Shetye (Dr. Abby), MD, FOMA, DABOM Winter 2021 In December 2019, a new disease emerged in the city of Wuhan, China that is capable of producing respiratory illness. We named this disease COVID-19 (Coronavirus) and thus far, it has infected more than 72 million people worldwide...

www.obesityaction.org

Getting into better physical shape helps with your health in general. More people still die from things like heart disease. So yeah, start that exercise regime. Maybe it'll help with covid, and it'll certainly help with everything else.

 

[mandrill]

In this fucking weather. Have fun

You want to lose the weight, but you're scared to catch cold?

 

[barnacler]

Kind of hard to lose weight when all the gyms and are closed and organized sports have been cancelled.

Baloney, go up and down your stairs 50 times.