Can weight loss help protect against Covid-19?

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Does losing weight reduce Covid-19 risk? The increased risk has led many to wonder if losing weight might keep them from catching or getting sicker with Covid-19.

Ethically, it would be nearly impossible to do randomized controlled trials to determine this, according to Dr. David Kass, a cardiologist at Johns Hopkins Medicine. But scientists have seen how weight loss can help in trials for other diseases with similar problems.

"There's no question, in controlled trials with people who are obese and have heart failure, that if they go through a weight reduction or an exercise program or a combination, and we look at this marker of how they are doing, the answers to that are yes, there is evidence that weight loss is a good thing," Kass said.

A large retrospective study published last week in JAMA Surgery suggests that substantial weight loss makes a difference.

The study, looking at records from 20,212 people for more than six years, was funded by a grant from Medtronic, which makes devices for weight loss surgery.
The rates of positive Covid-19 tests were similar in the surgical and control groups: 9.1% and 8.7%, respectively. The weight loss among the group that had surgery was associated with a lower risk of hospitalization, need for supplemental oxygen and severe symptoms from a Covid-19 infection. This patient group also had a 53% lower 10-year cumulative incidence of all-cause non-Covid mortality, compared with the control group.
"The findings suggest that obesity can be a modifiable risk factor for the severity of Covid-19 infection," the study said.
Dr. Steven Nissen, a cardiologist with Cleveland Clinic who co-authored the study, said it's important to understand that weight loss is the key with this study, not the surgery itself.
The surgery just happens to be an effective way to lose weight.
"Losing weight is completely reversible," Nissen said. "As far as we can tell, if you lose weight, then your risk of serious Covid and Covid morbidity and mortality goes way down."

This is about as soft and as dubious as a highly biased study could possibly be. Weight is not going to affect if you catch COVID. It's not proven in any way to affect if your COVID is serious or not. But yes, if you are hospitalized with COVD and you have high blood pressure or heart issues or other health issues because you are grossly overweight, that is going to impact the outome.
 
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I have never seen so many fat people until I came to North America. Back in the old country obesity was considered a sign of illness or simply old age. All we have to do is to look at the beach pics from 60s and even 70s and see the progression of obesity among us. There wasn't one fat kid in the schools I attended in Europe, same with the military service. I look around now days and I no longer wonder why our healthcare system is a bottomless pit.
 

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I have never seen so many fat people until I came to North America. Back in the old country obesity was considered a sign of illness or simply old age. All we have to do is to look at the beach pics from 60s and even 70s and see the progression of obesity among us. There wasn't one fat kid in the schools I attended in Europe, same with the military service. I look around now days and I no longer wonder why our healthcare system is a bottomless pit.
C'mon, JC. I grew up in Europe as well. And there were fat kids.
 

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C'mon, JC. I grew up in Europe as well. And there were fat kids.
Not in my corner of Europe. Oh, excuse me, there was one fat kid. He had a brain tumor that they were able to fix, but left him with mobility issues and diminished mental capacity. He was chunky, probably because he was in a wheelchair.
 

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Not in my corner of Europe. Oh, excuse me, there was one fat kid. He had a brain tumor that they were able to fix, but left him with mobility issues and diminished mental capacity. He was chunky, probably because he was in a wheelchair.
Guess Polish kids didn't get the food that Brit kids got then.
 

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Dude, you got to stop relying on Wikipedia.
No, I used Google. The pony was all that came up.

Maybe "hutcul" is spelled differently in English?
 

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Language
Hutsul is either considered to be a dialect of Western Ukrainian (with some Polish influences)[27][28][29][30] along with the dialects of the Lemkos and Boykos. Since the annexation of Transcarpathia by Soviet Union, compulsory education has been conducted only in standardized literary Ukrainian. In recent years there have been grassroots efforts to keep the traditional Hutsul dialect alive.

Way of life and culture


Hutsul wedding dress, bead embroidery

Traditional Hutsul culture is often represented by the colorful and intricate craftsmanship of their clothing, sculpture, architecture, woodworking, metalworking (especially in brass), rug weaving, pottery, and egg decorating (see pysanka). Along with other Hutsul traditions, as well as their songs and dances, this culture is often celebrated and highlighted by the different countries that Hutsuls inhabit.

Ukrainian Hutsul culture bears a resemblance to neighboring cultures of western and southwestern Ukraine,[31][32] particularly Lemkos and Boykos. These groups also share similarities with other Slavic highlander peoples, such as the Gorals in Poland and Slovakia.[33] Similarities have also been noted with some Vlach cultures such as the Moravian Wallachians in the Czech Republic, as well as some cultures in Romania.[34] Most Hutsuls belong to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Hutsul society was traditionally based on forestry and logging, as well as cattle and sheep breeding; the Hutsuls are credited with having created the breed of horse known as the Hucul pony. One of the main attributes of Hutsuls' is their Shepherd's axe (bartka), a small axe with a long handle that is still used to this day for chopping wood, as a cane, for fighting and traditional ceremonies. They would often be intricately decorated with traditional wood carving designs and passed on from generation to generation especially upon marriage.[35] They use unique musical instruments, including the "trembita" (trâmbiţa), a type of alpenhorn, as well multiple varieties of the fife, or sopilka, that are used to create unique folk melodies and rhythms. Also frequently used are the duda (bagpipe), the drymba (Jew's harp), and the tsymbaly (hammered dulcimer).
 

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Hutsul is either considered to be a dialect of Western Ukrainian (with some Polish influences)[27][28][29][30] along with the dialects of the Lemkos and Boykos. Since the annexation of Transcarpathia by Soviet Union, compulsory education has been conducted only in standardized literary Ukrainian. In recent years there have been grassroots efforts to keep the traditional Hutsul dialect alive.

Way of life and culture


Hutsul wedding dress, bead embroidery

Traditional Hutsul culture is often represented by the colorful and intricate craftsmanship of their clothing, sculpture, architecture, woodworking, metalworking (especially in brass), rug weaving, pottery, and egg decorating (see pysanka). Along with other Hutsul traditions, as well as their songs and dances, this culture is often celebrated and highlighted by the different countries that Hutsuls inhabit.

Ukrainian Hutsul culture bears a resemblance to neighboring cultures of western and southwestern Ukraine,[31][32] particularly Lemkos and Boykos. These groups also share similarities with other Slavic highlander peoples, such as the Gorals in Poland and Slovakia.[33] Similarities have also been noted with some Vlach cultures such as the Moravian Wallachians in the Czech Republic, as well as some cultures in Romania.[34] Most Hutsuls belong to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Hutsul society was traditionally based on forestry and logging, as well as cattle and sheep breeding; the Hutsuls are credited with having created the breed of horse known as the Hucul pony. One of the main attributes of Hutsuls' is their Shepherd's axe (bartka), a small axe with a long handle that is still used to this day for chopping wood, as a cane, for fighting and traditional ceremonies. They would often be intricately decorated with traditional wood carving designs and passed on from generation to generation especially upon marriage.[35] They use unique musical instruments, including the "trembita" (trâmbiţa), a type of alpenhorn, as well multiple varieties of the fife, or sopilka, that are used to create unique folk melodies and rhythms. Also frequently used are the duda (bagpipe), the drymba (Jew's harp), and the tsymbaly (hammered dulcimer).
Good people. Litte stubborn.
 

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Good people. Little stubborn.
I had no idea that there were several Western Ukrainian ethnic sub fragments and dialects.
 

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I have never seen so many fat people until I came to North America. Back in the old country obesity was considered a sign of illness or simply old age. All we have to do is to look at the beach pics from 60s and even 70s and see the progression of obesity among us. There wasn't one fat kid in the schools I attended in Europe, same with the military service. I look around now days and I no longer wonder why our healthcare system is a bottomless pit.
You’re from the old country? That explains why your thoughts are in 1975...
 
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I had no idea that there were several Western Ukrainian ethnic sub fragments and dialects.
And why should you know that? That corner of Europe has been "buried " for centuries among the shifting borders and rising and falling countries of which the inhabitants were always last to learn.
 

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And why should you know that? That corner of Europe has been "buried " for centuries among the shifting borders and rising and falling countries of which the inhabitants were always last to learn.
I dated a Ukrainian-Canadian girl for a couple of years in my 20's and I got schooled in some of the culture. But far from all, I guess.
 

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I dated a Ukrainian-Canadian girl for a couple of years in my 20's and I got schooled in some of the culture. But far from all, I guess.
The Ukrainian people are not very keen on minorities. The minorities like the Hutculs very simply lumped with the rest of the population and expected to homogenize. The Austria-Hungry or the Russian Empire never even gave them a second thought, as long as they stayed quiet and went about their business. Besides, those Karpatian and Galician groups were fairly small with barely their own languages- more like dialects in many cases. My great grandfather and grandmother did a lot of business with them, traveled extensively among them, etc. The events of the progressive West and East during the 20th century just about annihilated them.
 
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