Do a lot of SP choose to not see brown men?

[Berstime]

Never participated in the hobby before. I'm 25 y.o. Very new to researching about the hobby. As you probably guessed I am of Indian descent but born here. I saw there are stereotypes around people of my community when i did some searching and found a couple threads from a couple years ago and it is sad that these men tried to haggle with these SPs ffs. Notably one thread about agency HPL. when i quickly looked at the current HPL list I did find 1 instance of a SP saying no brown clients. So I'm asking you all if it doesn't say specifically 'no brown clients' does that mean you're good? how do you even bring it up in the schedule call to check?

I've never actually booked before so that's why i'm asking.

Thank You.

 

[hipjdog]

Never participated in the hobby before. I'm 25 y.o. Very new to researching about the hobby. As you probably guessed I am of Indian descent but born here. I saw there are stereotypes around people of my community when i did some searching and found a couple threads from a couple years ago and it is sad that these men tried to haggle with these SPs ffs. Notably one thread about agency HPL. when i quickly looked at the current HPL list I did find 1 instance of a SP saying no brown clients. So I'm asking you all if it doesn't say specifically 'no brown clients' does that mean you're good? how do you even bring it up in the schedule call to check?

I've never actually booked before so that's why i'm asking.

Thank You.

Unless you see something about 'No Brown Gents' on the ladies profile you can assume you will be fine.

There are, unfortunately, some stereotypes out there. All you need to do is what all the other guys do who
see girls with no issue: Be clean. Be on time. Be respectful of the woman's limitations. Do not haggle the
price. Be polite when texting/calling the agency.

If you do all that, you'll be just fine 99.9 percent of the time. The other .1 percent who turns you away is HER
problem, not yours. Politely leave and book another girl. While this sucks and is absolutely racist, it shouldn't
come up often.

 

[Jasmina]

Some may opt not to, don't let it get to you. Try to understand it isn't about racism, it is about bad/risky experiences. In Indian culture haggling and pushing for more is expected, and some of those people who aren't second, or third generation Canadian, have brought that to the industry and, well, frankly, ruined it for others. It may only be 20% of Indian clients, but that 20% is enough to push some providers into saying nope, not doing it. And I can tell you from experience, MANY push for bare services as well. It isn't a stereotype, these are the facts.

These providers have no issue being your neighbour, your friend, your lover even, they simply don't want to take the odds on getting that one asshole client who haggles/pushes for overtime, or tries to slip the condom off.

As for booking, if they don't list it or ask, you have nothing to worry about. Many, if not most, providers see Indian clients.

Queue the people saying, "She should book and just kick him out if he tries anything", as if that is completely safe for a sex worker. Sigh.

Never participated in the hobby before. I'm 25 y.o. Very new to researching about the hobby. As you probably guessed I am of Indian descent but born here. I saw there are stereotypes around people of my community when i did some searching and found a couple threads from a couple years ago and it is sad that these men tried to haggle with these SPs ffs. Notably one thread about agency HPL. when i quickly looked at the current HPL list I did find 1 instance of a SP saying no brown clients. So I'm asking you all if it doesn't say specifically 'no brown clients' does that mean you're good? how do you even bring it up in the schedule call to check?

I've never actually booked before so that's why i'm asking.

Thank You.

 

[Greekgod69]

If more of us haggled prices wouldn’t be so inflated. I am not gonna lie, Indian men are pretty fucking based.

 

[Darts]

On the other side of the coin, I found that "brown" E.I. SC dancers like me for some reason. I mean they know what I look like because I'm sitting there with my beer right in front of them.

I remember one really extremely busy E.I. dancer at the late beloved CB said "I'll be happy to perform xxxx for you" without me even asking.

P.S. I'm semi-retired now. I think the closing of CB and now this COVID thing are signs to pack it in.

 

[Berstime]

Unless you see something about 'No Brown Gents' on the ladies profile you can assume you will be fine.

There are, unfortunately, some stereotypes out there. All you need to do is what all the other guys do who
see girls with no issue: Be clean. Be on time. Be respectful of the woman's limitations. Do not haggle the
price. Be polite when texting/calling the agency.

If you do all that, you'll be just fine 99.9 percent of the time. The other .1 percent who turns you away is HER
problem, not yours. Politely leave and book another girl. While this sucks and is absolutely racist, it shouldn't
come up often.

Thank you for the info here! Yeah i don't know how these people do it i can't bring myself to haggle on kijiji haha let alone in a situation like this where the SP takes so much risk.

 

[hipjdog]

Thank you for the info here! Yeah i don't know how these people do it i can't bring myself to haggle on kijiji haha let alone in a situation like this where the SP takes so much risk.

Yes, exactly. The price is the price. If you don't like it don't book the girl.

 

[Darts]

Yeah i don't know how these people do it i can't bring myself to haggle on kijiji haha let alone in a situation like this where the SP takes so much risk.

Based on my experience with yard sales and Kijiji, a certain ethnic group (Darts, be careful. "They" are watching you.) do seem to haggle. I say no more because I still value my job.

 

[Berstime]

Some may opt not to, don't let it get to you. Try to understand it isn't about racism, it is about bad/risky experiences. In Indian culture haggling and pushing for more is expected, and some of those people who aren't second, or third generation Canadian, have brought that to the industry and, well, frankly, ruined it for others. It may only be 20% of Indian clients, but that 20% is enough to push some providers into saying nope, not doing it. And I can tell you from experience, MANY push for bare services as well. It isn't a stereotype, these are the facts.

These providers have no issue being your neighbour, your friend, your lover even, they simply don't want to take the odds on getting that one asshole client who haggles/pushes for overtime, or tries to slip the condom off.

As for booking, if they don't list it or ask, you have nothing to worry about. Many, if not most, providers see Indian clients.

Queue the people saying, "She should book and just kick him out if he tries anything", as if that is completely safe for a sex worker. Sigh.

Yeah I completely understand the ladies must have had some bad experiences to be doing this and I can respect that anyone else in their position would want to feel safe too.

Queue the people saying, "She should book and just kick him out if he tries anything", as if that is completely safe for a sex worker. Sigh.

I completely agree. If a person is pushing for not using protection even though its already assumed and obvious you'll be using it is probably not the type of person that would just leave immediately if she told them to go.

 

[Berstime]

Based on my experience with yard sales and Kijiji, a certain ethnic group (Darts, be careful. "They" are watching you.) do seem to haggle. I say no more because I still value my job.

My friends cousins from the motherland came to visit them in France and went shopping and they had apparently tried to haggle. It always hurts hearing things like this because you just know those kinds of impressions stick around in people's minds. I think in india since its the norm they know that the shop owner is quoting them higher than the real price and they've started applying this to all countries unfortunately.

 

[Darts]

Don't tell anybody. Try to book the SP's last appointment for the day. You might get a little extra time if she likes you because she doesn't have to worry about her next appointment. Plus, she might give you the flowers and chocolates that earlier clients in the day gifted her. Plus, plus she might even ask you to join her in the shower. Plus, plus, plus, she might even ask you to walk her home.

(Nothing worse than being in the "act" and her next appointment shows up early and starts banging on the hotel room door. Most annoying.)

Remember not to tell anybody. This is our secret.

 

[Andreiboris01]

I am sure this restriction is due to more than one reason. To be honest i have a very weak stomach for Body odour. For whatever reason the last 10 people i can recall were of that decent. How could somwones armpit reek in such manner at 8 am in the morning. This is beyound not using deodorant in the morning. Its a lack of hygiene and its gross 100%. Now when you combine this with pushy, disrespect or lack of class no wonder some ladies would rather not.
I know not every culture stereotype is true to every person but if you go through numbers enough you will see that stereotypes apply mostly as such.

 

[lomotil]

Never participated in the hobby before. I'm 25 y.o. Very new to researching about the hobby. As you probably guessed I am of Indian descent but born here. I saw there are stereotypes around people of my community when i did some searching and found a couple threads from a couple years ago and it is sad that these men tried to haggle with these SPs ffs. Notably one thread about agency HPL. when i quickly looked at the current HPL list I did find 1 instance of a SP saying no brown clients. So I'm asking you all if it doesn't say specifically 'no brown clients' does that mean you're good? how do you even bring it up in the schedule call to check?

I've never actually booked before so that's why i'm asking.

Thank You.

The sex trade will necessarily morph to accommodate the demand. They are a lot of “brown guys” that have recently come in to Canada from India, a country which has replaced China as the preferred immigration source , eagerly recruited by the Canadian government . These gentlemen are generally well educated, more so than the average Canadian and are reasonably wealthy, some very wealthy. There are already upscale shopping malls, boutique stores and luxury real estate established in Markham and elsewhere catering to this market which is a vastly different demographic than in Scarborough, Brampton or Thorncliffe Park.

 

[poopypants]

In Thailand most gogo bars don't let Indians in. Mostly because a group of 5 will order one drink. When they try to enter the bouncers step in front of the door and say members only lol. They just cause many problems. Hygiene could also be the cause of not seeing Indians.

 

[kherg007]

A horror story or two is all it takes. One lady told me about (early in her career) got haggled down to 240 by a foriegn born indian then the bloke shows up w 2 mates and says no worries each bloke paid in 80 and they'll each spend just 20 minutes but just one at a time.... then got upset when she kicked them out, they couldn't see the difference. Moreover, she had a second indian bloke with a long pinkie fingernail use it to secretly cut the condom. She banned brown clients after the second incident. Same stories ladies back in oz tell about the foreign born. In particular they mentioned how the Indian blokes were the only ones to consistently argy bargy about having the shower.

But - they are quick to point out that those indian men born/ raised in canada/australia are just fine, no different from other domestic born/raised blokes. As usual, a few bad ones ruin it for the majority of the group who are decent clients.

 

[amlooking]

No problem from what I hear. Usually it's black men from what I hear due to size (no racist). One told me black male end of shift would be fine.

 

[Jenesis]

I’m going to take a road most in my field would not want me to but….

You need to seriously do your research. More then the average white client in my opinion. Some will not come out and say they don’t see ethic men of different types. Because they don’t want to sound racist. They use other tools to ID your race. Like name, accent on the phone, etc. Then they reject you saying they are booked all the time, etc.

Also - if you get through the booking, some will give you their bottom basement service with no smile if you get my meaning. They could be great providers to a white client but mechanical and shit with you.

So find others like you in this board and follow their reviews to help you truly narrow down the good providers for a EI client.

This is not all escorts and not all the time but this is something I have heard from quite a few of my EI clients and the extra struggles they have navigating the industry.

 

[richaceg]

I know a few ladies' pet peeve are simply being "hairy" and we're not talking about just the crotch section...it's just not for everybody.

 

[amlooking]

Suprisingly many women appear to like hairy men.

 

[redshank]