Crown would probably not proceed with the weapons charge under the circumstances. But technically you're correct.
Kyle Rittenhouse trial
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Exactly. And that would be justified, not guilty of homicide but guilty of carrying a prohibited weapon
The propaganda is significantly heavier in the other direction... KR is a far right White Supremacist racist who drove across the country to shoot protestors. Any counterbalance to that narrative is warmly welcome.
If you have any doubt watch a few seconds of the MSM major networks clown coverage:
more people are killed falling per year then by rifles
kyle had every right to be there
he is likely going to walk as he was defending himself from violent attack as permitted by law
If roles were reversed and this was Charlottesville, and lets say that girl had defended herself with a gun against a right-winger, all the Lefties on this forum would say good job killing that evil Trump supporter. She acted in self-defense. Exonerate her!!
38,000 people killed in auto accidents every year in the US. Small difference. The sole purpose of cars isn't to kill. The sole purpose of guns is to kill.
cars kill more people then guns per year so its obvious cars are far more dangerous
gun deaths are approx 10K per year not counting suicide
FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
20 MILLION + legal firearms in Canada and few deaths prove that a guns only purpose is NOT to kill
or are all Canadian guns defective???
For legal gun owners, the sole purpose is to kill or injure in self-defense. That's a good thing. This is why there are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA yet only a few thousand gun murders annually, virtually all committed by degenerates that possess guns illegally.
or maybe it is obvious more people are driving cars. So saying that a gun's only purpose is not to kill is like saying a car's only purpose is not to transport. doesn't really make sense. does it?
well
263million cars registered in usa as of 2015 so lets make it 300 million for now
over 393 million firearms in the usa (small arms survey 2018) with estimates of as many as 600 million but nobody know for sure
so far more guns then cars
Well. 115 million people driving cars every day in the US. Couldn't find the stat on how many people are using guns every day, but would hazard a guess, probably less than 115 million.
If she approached the customer and he took offense at being approached and she then pointed the pepper spray at him in a threatening manner which provoked him into trying to disarm her, then she would be guilty of provoking the attack. Something like a fat little fuck who wanders into a melee with a loaded gun and is surprised when people take offense.
Now we're getting somewhere!
Prosecutors requested the jury be given instruction on provocation, after arguing Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum by raising his gun and pointing it at somebody, which led to Rosenbaum to run after him. The judge agreed to allow the panel to consider whether Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum into attacking him -- thus negating self-defense.
Ellie Honig, a CNN senior legal analyst and a former prosecutor, said the provocation instruction was an important win for the prosecution.
Honig said the instruction allows prosecutors to argue "the defendant went too far, used deadly force when it wasn't reasonably necessary" and he "provoked the attack, and hence cannot argue self-defense."
except he didn't provoke anyone
once again if the mere presence of a rifle triggers you I suggest you stay in your basement
you do realize that the guys attacking kyle one had a loaded pistol so both sides were armed
when you attack someone you should not be surprised when they respond with force
don't attack people
Prosecutors requested the jury be given instruction on provocation, after arguing Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum by raising his gun and pointing it at somebody, which led to Rosenbaum to run after him. The judge agreed to allow the panel to consider whether Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum into attacking him -- thus negating self-defense.
Ellie Honig, a CNN senior legal analyst and a former prosecutor, said the provocation instruction was an important win for the prosecution.
Honig said the instruction allows prosecutors to argue "the defendant went too far, used deadly force when it wasn't reasonably necessary" and he "provoked the attack, and hence cannot argue self-defense."
So in Milwaukee I can enter
It does have no relevance to the case. I agree. As I clearly stated at the beginning of my post he is not guilty because he has the right to defend himself.
But my point is he put himself in a situation that he should not have and that the police should have taken him out of for safety.
In one of the videos KR is seen running away from one of his attackers, how is that provoking someone??
Why would the police take him out for safety? He had a weapon to defend himself. no? He was chatting up the police during his tour of duty.
The provocation was already initiated. Running away was the obvious reaction to being chased. Why was he being chased? because he was swaggering around with a gun. Kind of like waving a red flag at a bull.
I'm sorry, but if someone is coming at me with something in his hand (afterwards it appeared to be just a plastic bag, but I dont know this at the time). And I then hear a gunshot, I too would have fire my weapon in self-defense. Thats just common sense.
Should I have waited until Rosenbaum pulled a gun or knife out his plastic bag??
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