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Probably a good thing you don't defend them. Rosenbaum spent time in jail for raping a child. Not sure what your thoughts on that are but most would say he deserved it.
Oh...then no problem, he deserved to be shot, right...even if the Kenosha thing didn't happen, shoot him anyway.
 
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Oh...then no problem, he deserved to be shot, right...even if the Kenosha thing didn't happen, shoot him anyway.
When you attack someone they have a right to defend themselves if he hadn’t attacked Kyle he wouldn’t have been shot quite simple why can’t you wrap your head around that
 
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Why are you defending the three that were shot? Do you identify with them? You should look into their background- but perhaps you know them already.
Aside from Rosenbaum, the characters of the 2 other victims were reasonably good. Righties have been lying about this shit for months. Snopes fact checked the bullshit.

Huber had a domestic assault conviction, but the circumstances strongly suggest that he was undergoing a psychotic episode at the time.

Grosskreutz had a minor conviction for carrying a weapon while drunk - which would probably otherwise make him a hero to all of you righties!

There you go.




Add in that Rosenbaum was routinely sexually abused by his step-father as a kid. Not an excuse, but an explanation why he was fucked up. And when he was shot, he had a full-time job, a fiancee and a young kid.

You guys could have looked this shit up yourself, but you prefer to argue and rant.
 
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Anyone following news biased against Kyle Rittenhouse should pursue other news from more supportive media outlets. At this point in America, I'm not sure there are unbiased media outlets. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel seems to be doing a better job than most.

By now, I presume everyone here on TERB knows that all the victims were white. A lot of Americans are now just getting that information. The City of Kenosha needs to get that news down to their African-American population.

As far as whether KR possessed the firearm illegally, this seems to be in some doubt.

"Crossing state lines" is definitely some overplayed media drama designed to manipulate. KR lived less than 20 miles from Kenosha. His father and his father's family live in Kenosha. The kid has more ties to Kenosha than his town in Illinois which is just over the state border. In any event, it's disingenuous of media outlets to continue to harp on crossing the state border. Most Americans are disgusted by this reporting as we know crossing state borders is a minor event. Many people live in one state while working and shopping in another. Think of it like going from Ottawa into Gatineau.
Isn't "No one knows that Rittenhouse's victims were white!" a rightie crapload designed just to show that "libtards are stupid!"

Anyone who looked at any of the news coverage knows who the vics were. If you didn't know that, you didn't care enough about the incident to watch the news.
 

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Aside from Rosenbaum, the characters of the 2 other victims were reasonably good. Righties have been lying about this shit for months. Snopes fact checked the bullshit.

Huber had a domestic assault conviction, but the circumstances strongly suggest that he was undergoing a psychotic episode at the time.

Grosskreutz had a minor conviction for carrying a weapon while drunk - which would probably otherwise make him a hero to all of you righties!

There you go.




Add in that Rosenbaum was routinely sexually abused by his step-father as a kid. Not an excuse, but an explanation why he was fucked up. And when he was shot, he had a full-time job, a fiancee and a young kid.

You guys could have looked this shit up yourself, but you prefer to argue and rant.
The world is a little better place now without them. Good riddance to two scumbags.
 
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True but it illustrates he didnt walk out his house to defend anything. He traveled a distance cuz it was cool. Moreover, in usa state laws vary thus the pot you smoke in Colorado gets you arrested in neighbouring Wyoming. Thus gun laws in one state are not the same in another. So i do think it relevant, however, i'll concede you're right that maybe a bit too much made of it.

But he's a 17 year old who slapped around a girl and thought he'd clint eastwood people w the weapon of war he found cool. Those of us who know m16s and m4s and used them know these are not cool toys. He is a certified moron playing Dirty Harry (although, to be fair, he was just 17, and 17 year old males not known for calm cool collected thought under pressure). He put himself and others at risk. He's no fucking hero. If he's so worried about his family in kenosha why is he not on their front porch to defend them, rather than wandering into a protest.
That being said, once he got himself in over his head, his 17 year old brain did not have enough sense to get himself out of it without using lethal force. Thus once he got mixed up with equal and opposite morons, his only move was likely to shoot these guys. And i imagine his state of mind at that point was legitimately fear for his life. This, as it seemed to me, meant he was justified in using that weapon on the 3 guys.
I get shirty that untrained blokes who watch too much tv think they and their weapons will solve any problem. Ask any soldier, marine, or cop - all highly trained- who's been in a real shootout what it's really like vs TV.
Instead KR created the problem that left him that lethal option.
While I might agree with much of what you said, I don't like all of the media's portrayal of Kyle Rittenhouse and the events on that night. I still think it's important for journalists not to embellish.

Clearly, he was one of those knucklehead kids who has an infatuation with guns and a hero complex. There are many young people who serve their communities in quiet and less confrontational ways. I will not celebrate this kid's actions even if we was acquitted on all the major counts.
 

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Isn't "No one knows that Rittenhouse's victims were white!" a rightie crapload designed just to show that "libtards are stupid!"

Anyone who looked at any of the news coverage knows who the vics were. If you didn't know that, you didn't care enough about the incident to watch the news.
You tend to dismiss anecdotal information. However, I and a few of my friends here in America did not know the victims were all white until the trial was well under way. Perhaps I don't watch Fox News often enough.

Many media outlets and the prosecutors have portrayed this case in terms of white supremacy. Even if KR was a white supremacist, that would seem to be tangential to shooting three white men. I think even the prosecutors got tripped up on the rhetoric flying around.
 

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This shit is totally uncalled for!

I think this should shatter the illusion of Antifa once and for all. They're not about anti-racism or tolerance or whatever PC rhetoric they spew out. They are domestic terrorists looking to smash the power structure and replace it with a Marxist regime. Threatening a judge should make that clear enough.
 

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You tend to dismiss anecdotal information. However, I and a few of my friends here in America did not know the victims were all white until the trial was well under way. Perhaps I don't watch Fox News often enough.

Many media outlets and the prosecutors have portrayed this case in terms of white supremacy. Even if KR was a white supremacist, that would seem to be tangential to shooting three white men. I think even the prosecutors got tripped up on the rhetoric flying around.
KR may well be a "white supremacist", if he subscribed to whatever abysmal FB page recruited him to go to Kenosha. But that simply is not a relevant fact in the trial.
 

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I think this should shatter the illusion of Antifa once and for all. They're not about anti-racism or tolerance or whatever PC rhetoric they spew out. They are domestic terrorists looking to smash the power structure and replace it with a Marxist regime. Threatening a judge should make that clear enough.
I think they're more anarchist than Marxist. But yes. They are opposed to capitalism, if they are anything like the fringe demo folks I used to run into in Toronto.

That doesn't mean that they are not anti racism.

AFA threatening a judge, fringe lefties threaten anyone who is indicated on the net as being a rightie power figure. Fringe righties do the same to whoever is singled out as being a leftie. I'm sure AOC is deluged with threats every day. These are notorious facts of our time.
 
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I think they're more anarchist than Marxist. But yes. They are opposed to capitalism, if they are anything like the fringe demo folks I used to run into in Toronto.

That doesn't mean that they are not anti racism.

AFA threatening a judge, fringe lefties threaten anyone who is indicated on the net as being a rightie power figure. Fringe righties do the same to whoever is singled out as being a leftie. I'm sure AOC is deluged with threats every day. These are notorious facts of our time.
You make some valid points. However, Antifa/BLM have a big advantage over fringe rightwingers. They have the support and endorsement of academia, the media, major corporations and many politicians including the POTUS himself.
Things may come to a head and it won't be pretty. Another civil war may occur eventually.
 

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You make some valid points. However, Antifa/BLM have a big advantage over fringe rightwingers. They have the support and endorsement of academia, the media, major corporations and many politicians including the POTUS himself.
Things may come to a head and it won't be pretty. Another civil war may occur eventually.
No, they fucking don't.

I've never read anything so silly. You think Coca-Cola and Ford are out there cheering for dicks who want to bring the capitalist system to a standstill by smoking weed, eating vegan food and going to demos?

Those folks are pretty far outside the mainstream and demographically minuscule. Less than 1%. Probably far less.
 
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However, Antifa/BLM have a big advantage over fringe rightwingers. They have the support and endorsement of academia, the media, major corporations and many politicians including the POTUS himself. Things may come to a head and it won't be pretty. Another civil war may occur eventually.
I don't think there will be a U.S. civil war of any sort. Too many people even the economic unfortunate are too comfortable. Many of the radical left are just cerebral talkers not fighters.

You only have to go back to the 1970s when the U.S. had domestic terrorist groups bombing public buildings, declaring an end to oppression and the U.S. capitalist system. And much of this was after the Vietnam War. Then who did America elect to two terms in the Eighties?

While the liberal establishment might romanticize the radical left, at the end of the day it's mostly politics. It's hard for politicians on the left and right to denounce the fringe elements of their support.
 

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No, they fucking don't.

I've never read anything so silly. You think Coca-Cola and Ford are out there cheering for dicks who want to bring the capitalist system to a standstill by smoking weed, eating vegan food and going to demos?

Those folks are pretty far outside the mainstream and demographically minuscule. Less than 1%. Probably far less.
I forgot to mention major sports leagues are lined up behind these groups too.
If I am so wrong why was Dr. Seuss canceled?
Or why were police in Kenosha told to stand down in the first place?
 

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please provide your evidence of a gun loading itself aiming it self and firing itself

I won’t wait because a gun being a mechanical device cannot operate without a human just as no gun has been charged with murder because it’s the person not the object that choose To kill

Served two years in Iraq US military three-year service had plenty of guns pointed and fired at me
Desperate spin, just as expected.

It's your choice to WANT a gun just as it's your choice to NOT WANT it. It's not a necessary or essential device to possess.

I agree with my Father.
 
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I forgot to mention major sports leagues are lined up behind these groups too.
If I am so wrong why was Dr. Seuss canceled?
Or why were police in Kenosha told to stand down in the first place?
But Dr Seuss cancelling a half-dozen marginal titles in a large library because those titles might offend some potential customer groups and reduce corporate profits has nothing to do with people who want to dissolve borders, dissolve governments, kill all multi millionaires and make all assets communal - or whatever fringe far lefties want to do these days.

These are two totally different groups of people with totally different belief systems making totally different decisions about totally different issues for totally different reasons. You gotta stop listening to fox News, or reading Breitbart or whatever else you're doing there.

And the Kenosha Police were not stood down that night. They were out in force with guns. They just weren't exactly where KR chose to wander. (Although they were 200 or 300 yards away).
 

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I don't think there will be a U.S. civil war of any sort. Too many people even the economic unfortunate are too comfortable. Many of the radical left are just cerebral talkers not fighters.

You only have to go back to the 1970s when the U.S. had domestic terrorist groups bombing public buildings, declaring an end to oppression and the U.S. capitalist system. And much of this was after the Vietnam War. Then who did America elect to two terms in the Eighties?

While the liberal establishment might romanticize the radical left, at the end of the day it's mostly politics. It's hard for politicians on the left and right to denounce the fringe elements of their support.
Seriously?!

What "liberal establishment is romanticizing the radical left" ffs?!

And it's not the "radical left" that are out there doing the kidnapping, the bombing and the killing right now. It's the fringe right. just ask Dylan Roof or Timothy McVeigh or a few other nice folks.
 
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