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WyattEarp

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Wisconsin activates 500 National Guard, just in case.
If I was the State of Wisconsin and City of Kenosha, I would make sure the African-American community knew that the victims were all white. I would also shut down the city right before the verdict and not allow interlopers to converge on to the city.
 

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It would have been better if the pursuer wrestled the gun from him

Again, he shouldn't have been there, he should have stayed home...he was in over his head.
better for who? so kyle getting killed would be ok with you? can you say this guy who several whiteness say was acting strangely who had threatened to kill kyle would not have shot many people?

Kyle had the legal right to defend himself from attack and YES attempting to take a firearm from someone is an attack and so far it appears the trial is going to show just that

each shooting is self defense and the trial is showing that
 

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Again wrong firearms are designed to fire a projectile that’s all it’s designed to do,the user decides what that projectile is pointed at

If you want to go design all of our homes are chock-full of weapons then what were knives designed for?
That is the dumbest excuse. Time for you to get past the blind NRA propaganda.

And sorry but your knife comparison is weak. Unlike guns, knives have always had plenty of practical purposes other than killing.

And again, I'm not anti-gun. I'm just in favour of reasonable precautions. If I need licensing, testing, and insurance to drive, there's no reason to expect anything different for guns.

Work? I retired years ago
Elderly American with a military background? No surprise there.
 

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He was running from the first person he killed? Interesting.
he was read the testimony


Rosenbaum who threatened to kill him twice. The first time happened as Rittenhouse and another man were walking along the street asking people if they needed any medical help. “He screamed—sorry for my language—he screamed ‘If I catch any of you f***ers alone, I’m going to f***king kill you.”

The second threat was directed more generally at the people guarding the Car Source. Rittenhouse testified he screamed, “I’m going to cut your f***ing hearts out—I’m not going to repeat the second word but—kill you n-words.” That’s very similar to what JoAnn Fiedler testified Rosenbaum had shouted that night.

Rittenhouse later tried to walk back to Car Source but police weren’t letting anyone cross the street. He got a call saying cars were being set on fire and he went to see if he could put the fires out. At this point, Rittenhouse became emotional as he described encountering a man, Joshua Ziminsky, who had a pistol. Rittenhouse says he dropped the fire extinguisher and wanted to get away.
“Once I take that step back I look over my shoulder and Mr. Rosenbaum—Mr. Rosenbaum was now running from my right side and I was cornered from in front of me with Mr. Ziminsky and there were—there were three people right there,” he said before breaking into sobs. The judge stopped his testimony and called for a break. Here’s that moment.

After a recess, Rittenhouse resumed testifying. He said Mr. Ziminsky told Rosenbaum to “get him and kill him, that’s what I heard.” He described Rosenbaum chasing him and then hearing a shot behind him. He turned and said Rosenbaum was close enough that his hand was on the barrel of his gun. He shot four times then circled around and saw someone was already trying to help Rosenbaum. Then he heard people shouting, “Get his ass. Get his ass. Get him. Get him.” He said he decided to run toward the police to turn himself in. As he started to run he said “a mob” was chasing him. “People were screaming and I was just trying to get to the police…” he said.

“The next thing I remember is Anthony Huber striking me in the head with a skateboard,” Rittenhouse testified. The rest of his testimony is basically that, as he ran toward the police, he stumbled and fell in the street. He then fired shots at three people. The first was the man who kicked him in the face. He testified he fired two shots but that man wasn’t hit. Then he was hit again by Huber with the skateboard and fired one shot that killed him. Finally, Grosskreutz approached with his hands up but he had a pistol in his hand. While his hands were up, Rittenhouse didn’t fire but once Grosskreutz’ hand with the gun came down so the gun was pointing at his head, Rittenhouse fired one shot, hitting Grosskreutz in the arm.
 

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Van attacker in Toronto did a pretty good job without a gun ( and no I’m not for what he did)
How often does that happen? Even in Canada, guns get used to kill frequently and we don't even have to worry about kids grabbing their dad's AR out of the closet to shoot up a school.
 

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You do realize many states you have to take safety course to get a carry permit even if you don’t your photograph and fingerprints are taken and run through the FBI database
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So why are you and the rest of the NRA types so against that being the law in all states?
 

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That is the dumbest excuse. Time for you to get past the blind NRA propaganda.

And sorry but your knife comparison is weak. Unlike guns, knives have always had plenty of practical purposes other than killing.

And again, I'm not anti-gun. I'm just in favour of reasonable precautions. If I need licensing, testing, and insurance to drive, there's no reason to expect anything different for guns.


Elderly American with a military background? No surprise there.
a firearm IS a mechanical device its designed to fire a projectile it cannot function without a human operating it

if you can claim a gun was designed to kill then the same applies to a knife

a knife was designed as a weapon to kill

in the us all dealer gun sales are run through a background check

in Canada I get $5 million liability insurance for shooting sports for something like $10-20 a year, cheap because the risk is so low

never said I was elderly I retired very early what's wrong with a military background?
 

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How often does that happen? Even in Canada, guns get used to kill frequently and we don't even have to worry about kids grabbing their dad's AR out of the closet to shoot up a school.
there are approx 120,000 ar15s in canada

the guns used for most crimes are illegal smuggled guns used by people who seem to breeze through the revolving door justice system
 

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Because under Canadian law, handguns are pretty much restricted to a gun range.
they are true but storing them there would be the stupidest thing you could do ranges are in the middle of nowhere police response could be 20+ mins a building full of guns unattended in the middle of nowhere what could go wrong

or people keep them stored at home as the law says where few if anyone (criminals) know where they are
 
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I questioned the link at the time. OTOH it's the sort of thing that G might lie about.
since he was not charged (that I can find) with felony possession of a loaded firearm I'm going to say he was 1) either not a felon or 2) a deal was made for his testimony (if that's even legally possible)
 

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since he was not charged (that I can find) with felony possession of a loaded firearm I'm going to say he was 1) either not a felon or 2) a deal was made for his testimony (if that's even legally possible)
He could just be subpoenaed. As he is not a perp or an accomplice, he has no 5th Amendment rights. And if there was a deal, defence would have crossed him on it.
 
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better for who? so kyle getting killed would be ok with you? can you say this guy who several whiteness say was acting strangely who had threatened to kill kyle would not have shot many people?

Kyle had the legal right to defend himself from attack and YES attempting to take a firearm from someone is an attack and so far it appears the trial is going to show just that

each shooting is self defense and the trial is showing that
Again, he shouldn’t have been there...this kid was in over his head...
 
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