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REBUILD AMERICA AND FIGHT CHINA?

toguy5252

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So what Hardened remote sites,that the Americans would have satellite imagery and coordinates of. nukes from the submarines would wipe them out long before they could launch you do realize land base sites are sitting ducks these days that’s why the US stopped building silos in the 1980”s
Alright. You should go back and watch the ending of Dr. Strangelove.

An effective fleet of nuclear ballistic missile submarines, known as SSBNs, marks a dramatic boost to China's nuclear capabilities. Each of China's four Jin-class submarines is armed with up to 12 ballistic missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead with an estimated range of 7,200 kilometers (about 4,500 miles), according to the Pentagon.

Pentagon Estimates China Could Have Over 1,000 Nuclear Warheads By 2030
 

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Alright. You should go back and watch the ending of Dr. Strangelove.

An effective fleet of nuclear ballistic missile submarines, known as SSBNs, marks a dramatic boost to China's nuclear capabilities. Each of China's four Jin-class submarines is armed with up to 12 ballistic missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead with an estimated range of 7,200 kilometers (about 4,500 miles), according to the Pentagon.

Pentagon Estimates China Could Have Over 1,000 Nuclear Warheads By 2030
I’m still waiting for you to back up your claim that China has secret defense systems which you said they did
 

toguy5252

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I’m still waiting for you to back up your claim that China has secret defense systems which you said they did
You may be waiting a while because I have said a few times now that I have no evidence. That does not change my point at all.
 

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You may be waiting a while because I have said a few times now that I have no evidence. That does not change my point at all.
sure it proves you made a bullshit claim you cant back up

thanks for confirming that

Have a great night!
 

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If we are loosing the war over global economy to China
then military war may be the only option.

China is taking over ExxonMobil's supergiant oil field
in Iraq (if not done already). China has secured long term
supply of natural gas from Russia and Iran while Putin is
threatening gas supply to Europe. China has already dominated
supply of rare earth minerals crucial to world's climate-
-driven transition to renewable energy. And the Talibans
would likely welcome China more than the west
to develop the resources of rare minerals in Afghanistan.

China will turn out to be the biggest beneficiary of the bogus
global transition to renewable energy as their industry will enjoy
the lowest cost of manufacturing thanks to availability of cheap
and polluting non-renewable energy.
They can continue to burn increasingly cheaper
dirty coal being phased out by the west to compensate for
increase of electric power demand from growing usage of EVs.
The west will have to import cheaper but still overpriced
wind turbines, solar panels and Tesla cars from where the energy
cost is lower. We will have to increase
export of our remaining oil, gas and coal resources to China to
find the money to carry on the renewable energy transition.
And long before the transition is complete our standard
of living will be on par with the developing world.
 

danmand

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danmand

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If it is to be a small scale rather than an all-out war like defending
Taiwan many people would be happy to sacrifice our soldiers' lives
just to piss off China.
That is a brilliant idea. Have a small scale war, that will not escalate. What could possibly go wrong?

Have you ever heard about the small scale war that is now called WWI?

You are correct on one issue: many people sitting behind computer screens will be happy to sacrifice soldiers lives.
 

toguy5252

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sure it proves you made a bullshit claim you cant back up

thanks for confirming that

Have a great night!
LOL. Do you really think China advertises the locations of its missle siloes and launchers. Why dont you ask the US where there launc sites are?



There are 450 Minuteman III silos in the northwestern Great Plains states, and according to Wikipedia there are 399 active missiles within those silos

Yes, the ground based missile system is the minute man III, the ground based missiles for m one leg of our nuclear triad, the other 2 legs are sea and air. The idea is that if Russia or China attacked us, they could not possible get all missiles in the air, land , and sea. The end result is that even if an enemy launched a first strike, he would also be utterly destroyed. We have 18 Ohio class boomer subs. Each one carries 24 missiles, each missile carries (10) 3.4 megaton war heads that have independent targeting. One US Ohio class sub can destroy a whole continent.



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We have 18 Ohio class boomer subs. Each one carries 24 missiles, each missile carries (10) 3.4 megaton war heads that have independent targeting. One US Ohio class sub can destroy a whole continent.
After Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Navy changed their policy to ensure that there are enough ships at sea to wreck havoc on the enemy. It was fortunate that on December 7, 1941 the carriers were out at sea on exercise. Those same carriers won the day at Midway.
 

toguy5252

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After Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Navy changed their policy to ensure that there are enough ships at sea to wreck havoc on the enemy. It was fortunate that on December 7, 1941 the carriers were out at sea on exercise. Those same carriers won the day at Midway.
Sea based capability is only part of the strategy. There is no reason to believe that China and Russia have not figured out the same strategy.
 

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Sea based capability is only part of the strategy. There is no reason to believe that China and Russia have not figured out the same strategy.
USA was defeated by a bunch of guys in sandals with rusty old kalashnikovs.

Now, take on China and Russia, who both have hypersonic nuclear missiles that can circle the globe. Great idea.
 

toguy5252

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USA was defeated by a bunch of guys in sandals with rusty old kalashnikovs.

Now, take on China and Russia, who both have hypersonic nuclear missiles that can circle the globe. Great idea.
It is very easy for armchair quarterbacks to talk about starting a nuclear war and the certitude that Xi will blink..
 

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LOL. Do you really think China advertises the locations of its missle siloes and launchers. Why dont you ask the US where there launc sites are?



There are 450 Minuteman III silos in the northwestern Great Plains states, and according to Wikipedia there are 399 active missiles within those silos

Yes, the ground based missile system is the minute man III, the ground based missiles for m one leg of our nuclear triad, the other 2 legs are sea and air. The idea is that if Russia or China attacked us, they could not possible get all missiles in the air, land , and sea. The end result is that even if an enemy launched a first strike, he would also be utterly destroyed. We have 18 Ohio class boomer subs. Each one carries 24 missiles, each missile carries (10) 3.4 megaton war heads that have independent targeting. One US Ohio class sub can destroy a whole continent.



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Once again you made the claim back it up

the United States with their satellites would know the location of all the silos which are sitting ducks they can’t be moved they can’t be protected they worked years ago when missiles were not accurate that’s not the case anymore
 

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USA was defeated by a bunch of guys in sandals with rusty old kalashnikovs.

Now, take on China and Russia, who both have hypersonic nuclear missiles that can circle the globe. Great idea.
they were only unable to win because they were not allowed to win the west doesn’t have the guts to win wars anymore

The allies defeated Nazi Germany by pounding their armies and cities to dust now if you hit a single building the media cries that you hit civilians
 

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The allies defeated Nazi Germany by pounding their armies and cities to dust now if you hit a single building the media cries that you hit civilians
No social media and few lefties in WW II. Actually, some of the current lefties are re-writing the book on WW II and saying we are terrible people because:
1) We bombed Nazi Germany 24/7.
2) We dropped the A-bombs on Japan to end the Pacific War.
3) We allowed the Russians to take Berlin because we value western lives more than Russian lives.
 
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