Kyle Rittenhouse trial

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Phil C. McNasty

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He will be guilty for carrying an assault grade rifle at 17 yrs old...the rest of the case will be dismissed
He'll skate on the homicide charges, but he still could be found guilty of 1st-degree reckless endangerment
 

richaceg

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Guns kills or injures people, often kids, by mistake every year. More then 15k people get their life shattered by gun related injuries.

No matter how you try to convince me you will never succeed. Gun kills people. Period.
Guns don't kill people, irresponsible owners do...you can say the same with pitbull owners...
Guns should be safely locked and not accessible to children. Just like your car keys shouldn't be.
 

mandrill

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He'll skate on the homicide charges, but he still could be found guilty of 1st-degree reckless endangerment
Why do you think that?

It's the US. It's legal to walk around with a rifle.
 

richaceg

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He'll skate on the homicide charges, but he still could be found guilty of 1st-degree reckless endangerment
Maybe but the defense argument that he acted in self defense is quite strong...
He never provoked the engagement, he was fleeing from his assailants meaning he never wanted to use the gun until he had no other choice.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Maybe but the defense argument that he acted in self defense is quite strong...
He never provoked the engagement, he was fleeing from his assailants meaning he never wanted to use the gun until he had no other choice
I agree, but you never know what the jury is going to do
 

WyattEarp

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If you wanna try and use the second amendment was written way back then when modern things didn’t exist. then you should apply that to the first amendment which was written when Word of mouth and hand written letters were the only way to spread information
I'm pretty adept at writing in cursive with a feather quill pen and a inkwell. Just sayin'.
 

Valcazar

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Pretty sure the second amendment was written to ensure you had a well armed and trained militia in case the British came back. I really don't think that is going to happen anymore...
It was, but it has been expressly interpreted to cover an individual right to bear arms even if you aren't in the militia.
The idea that the original intent and/or the specific text is what controls things is something no one believes unless they want to use it to get their way.
 
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Valcazar

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I know law is different in different situations but arming yourself and intentionally putting yourself in a situation you had no right to be in is a factor.

I'm also sure that if it were an armed BLM protester interjecting himself in Trump rally, people would be saying the Trumpies had a right to defend themselves from the armed "thug".
You can believe this as much as you like, but the controlling laws are the state laws and Wisconsin has a very broad interpretation of self-defense.
Whether or not he committed a crime depends a lot on where it happened.
 

WyattEarp

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Most rational people can understand that looters are bad, while simultaneously agreeing this kid deserves to be locked away for good.
So now we're setting up the jury for criticism if they acquit.
 

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These networks is where many posters here get their information from exclusively .
They don't ever seem to be bothered by misinformation or even more dangerous manipulation by omission.
 
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mandrill

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Not for him, he was a minor
But that won't set up a reckless endangerment finding.

If he did that shit in Canada, sure. But in the US, walking around with rifles is apaprently no big deal.
 

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Guns kills or injures people, often kids, by mistake every year. More then 15k people get their life shattered by gun related injuries.

No matter how you try to convince me you will never succeed. Gun kills people. Period.

The gun does not kill anyone . The person firing the gun does . Knives kill way more people then guns . Alcohol and tobacco way more . You want to save lives start there .
 

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The gun does not kill anyone . The person firing the gun does . Knives kill way more people then guns . Alcohol and tobacco way more . You want to save lives start there .
If you banned all guns people would still get murdered. Many handy objects can be used as a practical weapon to cause blunt force trauma.
For example : Did gun control stop that maniac from driving his car on the sidewalk and killing a few people in Toronto a while back?
 

mandrill

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If you banned all guns people would still get murdered. Many handy objects can be used as a practical weapon to cause blunt force trauma.
For example : Did gun control stop that maniac from driving his car on the sidewalk and killing a few people in Toronto a while back?
However, the killing would be slower and less efficient and fewer people would be dead.

That is the theory why modern armies are not armed with large sticks and pebbles.
 
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richaceg

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If you banned all guns people would still get murdered. Many handy objects can be used as a practical weapon to cause blunt force trauma.
For example : Did gun control stop that maniac from driving his car on the sidewalk and killing a few people in Toronto a while back?
people who have an inkling to kill someone (murderers/serial killers) don't need guns...heck terrorists don't need guns to inflict damage. guns main purpose is a deterrent...it tells you "back off" or "better not have stupid ideas"...during the days of the wild west....everyone gets to carry a pistol and if you want trouble...you will get it...now we're not the wild west that's why we need to have license to carry....American laws are way different bu IMO, it all depends on how responsible a gun owner is...
 
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It’s rigged!
The whole trial is a sham!
Just listen to the ramblings of The judge.
He will be found not guilty and he’ll go back to carrying his assault rifle around trying to defend the world.
yup. Judge comes off as an ass
 

WyattEarp

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Biden suffers from severe dementia and he's the president.
Ruh-roh! You brought out the hypocrisy meter with the leading Democrat as the example. You know you're asking for trouble. I'll be over here hiding behind the bar. (PS- Please capitalize President.)

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To add to the general chaos, the judge is the oldest judge on the Wisconsin bench and didn't allow the DA to zoom in on a still because he "didn't trust Apple tech". He wanted expert evidence on Zoom features! 🥴

He also forgot to turn his phone off during the trial and made the worst "grandad joke" about the Chinese food lunch that I could imagine. 🥴

The trial is becoming more and more shambolic.
Back when we watched Judge Ito on TV during the O.J. Simpson trial we kind of learned that judges could be idiosyncratic people with ego, vanity and other personality failings.
 
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