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I would agree.

If those criminal records are accurate. If they are true, it suggests that the protestors were nothing but looters and trouble-makers.
I suspect that many people who show up on both sides of these events are there to do dumb shit but last I checked, having a criminal record doesn't allow non-judicial executions. The relevant evidence will be to Kyle's state of mind and whether his perceptions of threat were reasonable.
 

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Anna Kasperian of TYT doing damage control, lol.

Claiming she didn't know the facts. Funny all this footage was on line months ago. We all saw it. There's nothing new coming out here.

Yet she didn't know eh?.......She was to bust pushing her white supremacist B.S. narrative and getting her base all riled up. That's why.
The Middle-aged McCarthyites took money Katzenberg and Roemer.
 

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Might be significant for the third shooting when both people can claim self defense (in case you forgot, KR had his gun out the whole time) but you might recall there were two other shootings.
He was carrying a rifle . Pretty heard to hide it . Plus you are in a area of high volatility . Best to have your defense weapon ready .
 

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You spend your entire day and night reading highly manipulative far right websites and apparently believing everything that they say.
But you do the same with the lefty sites . I bet you still believe in the Russian collusion hoax .
 

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But you do the same with the lefty sites . I bet you still believe in the Russian collusion hoax .
I don't visit those sites, unlike you and your boys.

The internet is asymmetric. Rightie sites abound and are heavily visited. Ben Shapiro's site is always top 20 on Facebook, often occupying several Top 20 places in 1 day. Ditto other rightie bullshit pages. There are no leftie equivalents. We just don't have the same yearn for conspiracy theories and outrage-clickbait as you dudes.

Oracle visits dozens of those sites and learns about how the secret elite control Big Pharma, Big Media and every world government. Lefties don't do that.
 

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And hopefully this will be a lesson that guns are not the solution. What that kid did may not be murder but it's still fucking wrong.

All of this is wrong.

I know it's horrible that people were out protesting and destroying small businesses. We need to truly find out why they were out there and try to help them. Without guns.
The US court system has expanded "reasonable doubt" to cover a lot of fundamentally unreasonable conduct. OJ got off, didn't he???
 

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The kid is gonna walk...he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that alone was a pretty bad decision on his part, but he didn't show up there on the purpose of shooting 3 people...he was forced to use unnecessary force as soon as the shit hit the fan....he had the presence of mind to use his weapon which most of us keyboard warriors might not able to have that courage to shoot someone in the face of danger...had the situation reversed and his gun taken from him and he got killed...the lefty snowflakes would be "well he shouldn't have been in that situation if he stayed home" or "why even bring a gun if you can't shoot it"...lesson here...never provoke someone holding an AR-15....
 

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The kid is gonna walk...he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that alone was a pretty bad decision on his part, but he didn't show up there on the purpose of shooting 3 people...he was forced to use unnecessary force as soon as the shit hit the fan....he had the presence of mind to use his weapon which most of us keyboard warriors might not able to have that courage to shoot someone in the face of danger...had the situation reversed and his gun taken from him and he got killed...the lefty snowflakes would be "well he shouldn't have been in that situation if he stayed home" or "why even bring a gun if you can't shoot it"...lesson here...never provoke someone holding an AR-15....
You are one scary dude... to say the least.
 

mandrill

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The US court system has expanded "reasonable doubt" to cover a lot of fundamentally unreasonable conduct. OJ got off, didn't he???
OJ got off on reasonable doubt. Not on self defence.
 

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The kid is gonna walk...he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that alone was a pretty bad decision on his part, but he didn't show up there on the purpose of shooting 3 people...he was forced to use unnecessary force as soon as the shit hit the fan....he had the presence of mind to use his weapon which most of us keyboard warriors might not able to have that courage to shoot someone in the face of danger...had the situation reversed and his gun taken from him and he got killed...the lefty snowflakes would be "well he shouldn't have been in that situation if he stayed home" or "why even bring a gun if you can't shoot it"...lesson here...never provoke someone holding an AR-15....
You made a mistake there. The word should be "reasonable" force.

Rittenhouse's optics problem is that he joined a vigilante group which decided that they were going to arm, travel to Kenosha - where they had no real connection, I am guessing - and play at being soldiers with real guns. I am quite sure that the organizers had political views far to the right of anything acceptable in Canada and that their whole point of doing this gig was attracting followers. I have no liking for far right vigilante groups. I would be shocked if you have either.

Most of those fat, dumb fucks would have put on their body armour and sat around near the cops that night, showing off their $10,000 rifle bling to their new buddies. And driven home the next morning to make up stories about their exploits to the other dumb, rightie guys.

Enter Rittenhouse, who is 16 years old, dumb as a turnip and who apparently has no idea that you don't wander off alone into an extremely hostile crowd, some of whom have guns and most of whom may want to hurt you. He really shouldn't have been in that situation and he really should have stayed home. And for fuck's sake! - What the fuck was his mother even thinking to let him do this?!?!?!?!

When I was a kid, moms wouldn't even let kids go biking to the mall alone.

And actually the little fucker had decent enough close combat skills for an idiot. And shot his way out of trouble. And I'm pretty sure that the jury is going to buy that as well. The video evidence is pretty supportive.

The rightie, play-soldier assholes who organized this fiasco got a million times more free press than they could ever in their wildest dreams have wished. And I hope to fuck that doesn't include other CHILDREN carrying around rifles in riot situations in future - but it probably will!

As far as Rittenhouse is concerned, I can only hope he gets as far from this shit as he possibly can and gets his grade 12 and moves away somewhere people don't know him. Because being exploited as a hero and symbol for something you did in 5 minutes when you were 16 and which involved blowing apart 3 other people is not going to be good for the rest of his life.
 
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You made a mistake there. The word should be "reasonable" force.

Rittenhouse's optics problem is that he joined a vigilante group which decided that they were going to arm, travel to Kenosha - where they had no real connection, I am guessing - and play at being soldiers with real guns. I am quite sure that the organizers had political views far to the right of anything acceptable in Canada and that their whole point of doing this gig was attracting followers. I have no liking for far right vigilante groups. I would be shocked if you have either.

Most of those fat, dumb fucks would have put on their body armour and sat around near the cops that night, showing off their $10,000 rifle bling to their new buddies. And driven home the next morning to make up stories about their exploits to the other dumb, rightie guys.

Enter Rittenhouse, who is 16 years old, dumb as a turnip and who apparently has no idea that you don't wander off alone into an extremely hostile crowd, some of whom have guns and most of whom may want to hurt you. He really shouldn't have been in that situation and he really should have stayed home. And for fuck's sake! - What the fuck was his mother even thinking to let him do this?!?!?!?!

When I was a kid, moms wouldn't even let kids go biking to the mall alone.

And actually the little fucker had decent enough close combat skills for an idiot. And shot his way out of trouble. And I'm pretty sure that the jury is going to buy that as well. The video evidence is pretty supportive.

The rightie, play-soldier assholes who organized this fiasco got a million times more free press than they could ever in their wildest dreams have wished. And I hope to fuck that doesn't include other CHILDREN carrying around rifles in riot situations in future - but it probably will!

As far as Rittenhouse is concerned, I can only hope he gets as far from this shit as he possibly can and gets his grade 12 and moves away somewhere people don't know him. Because being exploited as a hero and symbol for something you did in 5 minutes when you were 16 and which involved blowing apart 3 other people is not going to be good for the rest of his life.
what is reasonable force? IMO this kid without a rifle could easily be overpowered by any of the 3 guys chasing him...he didn't have to use that rifle if he didn't feel threatened.
 

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You are one scary dude... to say the least.
I grew up in a rough city of Manila, one thing I've learn is never confront someone with a deadly weapon on sight...because unpredictable events can happen...such as this...
 
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what is reasonable force? IMO this kid without a rifle could easily be overpowered by any of the 3 guys chasing him...he didn't have to use that rifle if he didn't feel threatened.
You're mis using the terms "unnecessary" and "unreasonable". Go look them up.
 

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To be precise, it was illegal for KR to be carrying at that time due to his age and out of state residency
Thats completely irrelevant to his murder charge. If its illegal for him to be carring a firearm the only charge they can get him on is for that, but not for the murder (which was self-defense)
 
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mandrill

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Its not looking good for the prosecution:

I would have assumed that they would have assigned the state's best ADA to a high profile murder trial like this one.

I would have assumed wrong. This guy is totally incompetent. He's making very basic law school mistakes.

1. The prosecution can NEVER comment at trial about the accused not agreeing to give a confession to the cops. It's an almost automatic mistrial.
2. The prosecution can bring an up accused's previous, factually unrelated misconducts only in very rare and special circumstances.

This is really Trial Lawyer 101 level stuff. He's an idiot.
 
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It looks like Shitinhouse is going to get away with murder.

The US is fucked.

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I don't visit those sites, unlike you and your boys.

The internet is asymmetric. Rightie sites abound and are heavily visited. Ben Shapiro's site is always top 20 on Facebook, often occupying several Top 20 places in 1 day. Ditto other rightie bullshit pages. There are no leftie equivalents. We just don't have the same yearn for conspiracy theories and outrage-clickbait as you dudes.

Oracle visits dozens of those sites and learns about how the secret elite control Big Pharma, Big Media and every world government. Lefties don't do that.
Please enlighten us what sites you do visit for information ? They must be fascinating .
 
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sshotrr

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I would have assumed that they would have assigned the state's best ADA to a high profile murder trial like this one.

I would have assumed wrong. This guy is totally incompetent. He's making very basic law school mistakes.

1. The prosecution can NEVER comment at trial about the accused not agreeing to give a confession to the cops. It's an almost automatic mistrial.
2. The prosecution can bring an up accused's previous, factually unrelated misconducts only in very rare and special circumstances.

This is really Trial Lawyer 101 level stuff. He's an idiot.
You have not figured out this was a dog case . No ADA worth anything would put their name on this case . Hence the new guy gets fed to the dogs .
 
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