It looked like he had to land under the camera bridge thing which was a ballsy move, but no idea why he swerved left after landing and almost hit the median. Good thing his wing was slightly higher
A single engine plane landed on the 407 today…
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Yes, you typically don't use carb heat on take off or landing as it can effect power. It's possible they didn't use it in the first place or for long enough. It's also possible they started getting carb ice after takeoff when they reduced throttle. I heard when the engine started sputtering they signaled mayday and prepared for a forced approach landing. Being at 2,000 feet and not knowing what was wrong with the engine, they probably didn't try turning on the carb heat. Their first thought was, where are we going to land. It's not like a car, you can't just pull over to the shoulder. When something goes wrong with your engine, you have precious little time to figure out what to do. It can be a matter of life and death.
Actually he was wrong, the glide ratio of a warrior is 9 to 1 so he could have glided 18,000 feet or about 3 miles. By google maps it looks like he landed about 3600ft from the runway so unless he was already that far south and the 407 is as far as he could glide or if there was a 50k headwind he made the wrong decision
you never use carb heat on takeoff, and you always use carb heat on landing. You use carb heat on run up so it will clear the ice out of the carb so you will have full power takeoff. The reason for using it on landing is because you are pulling the throttle back to idle and this is where it will kill your engine if it is present. If you have to overshoot you will not have power. That is standard procedure and well practised by all student pilots. When in overshoot, full power, carb heat off, flaps up and set trim to climb
Also reducing power at 2000 feet over toronto is not a good idea and you only do that when you are at your cruising altitude. It is not illegal as you are still over 1000ft AGL but all flight instuctors want you up to 3500 feet going east (i think) and 4500 going west or the other way around.
Not really. If he took off on 33 which it appears he did he would have been at 1000ft parallel to the runway heading south. Assuming the climb rate to be at least 700ft/min he would have been less than 2 minutes away at a climb speed of 87 knots so no more than 2 miles from the runway probably more like 1.5 miles. it would have been scary but he should have made it
True, but if he tried and came up a little short, the outcome could've much different.
Truth. Carb heat drops the RPM significantly, the last thing you want on anything other than approach and landing.
A two-seat Cessna crashed into a cemetery in Newfoundland and so far rescuers have recovered 300 bodies
The plane will.idle with carb heat on that is part of the run up. All he carb heat does is pull heat from a shroud outside the exhaust rather than through the air filter. Because hot air is less dense than cold it changes the mixture ratio resulting Ina slight loss of rpm. Probably all pilots have mistaking taken off with carb heat on once or twice. Unless you are over loaded on a short runway on a hot day with no headwind it should not be an issue. It's more of an issue on dusty or rocky runways where the carb will be sucking up some dirt
Yes it will, you hope. Which is precisely why you check it during the run-up. Once had a C150 quit on me during that check, so it was snagged. Engine probably needed some tuning to improve the performance at low idle.
