Do you trust government and media?

[Drakarys]

Truth is just a word. What it implies is relative. Majority of people can't handle raw, unfiltered truth and facts.

Lying is a necessity. Some lies are malicious and others are meant to protect us or our feelings. It's engraved in all of us at every level of our lives. Personal, casual, business.

It's everywhere.

To expect governments and media to tell us the truth only is naive. We get an easy to swallow sugar-coated version of events most of the time.

Media needs to put a twist on reporting to drive rating higher. Governments need to maintain control so their version of events will fall in line with whatever achieves that goal.

What's your take on it?

 

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Media only represents the people who pay them the most. It’s just a business that shills the interest of the ones who line their pockets the fattest

Unfortunately there is no money in objective journalism anymore. These are very rare to find nowadays.

Also politics it’s all bullshit. Just a control tribal mechanism. Both wings of that frikken bird support the same head. People like to belong to a tribe and fight inter tribe battles when they don’t realized all their being is controlled and manipulated by giving them the illusion of purpose to support that ideology they associate their identity with.

In other words play the game or get wrecked. You will never be able to do what is the absolute right because the absolute truth threatens the people in power. When they sense you as a big enough threat they will employ whatever means necessary to eliminate that threat.

So really consider the battles you want tofight and understand the consequences.

 

[y2kmark]

Truth is just a word. What it implies is relative. Majority of people can't handle raw, unfiltered truth and facts.

Lying is a necessity. Some lies are malicious and others are meant to protect us or our feelings. It's engraved in all of us at every level of our lives. Personal, casual, business.

It's everywhere.

To expect governments and media to tell us the truth only is naive. We get an easy to swallow sugar-coated version of events most of the time.

Media needs to put a twist on reporting to drive rating higher. Governments need to maintain control so their version of events will fall in line with whatever achieves that goal.

What's your take on it?

Simplistic approach to a very complex and nuanced question. There are certainly media entities that fall into the "trust" category and many that do not. Government the same in spades. Would you tar Anderson Cooper and Tucker Carlson with the same brush???

 

[Drakarys]

Would you tar Anderson Cooper and Tucker Carlson with the same brush???

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Both CNN and Fox are full of shit. Cooper and Carlson are just puppets who serve their masters.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Some what. Depends on the issue.

 

[jcpro]

The reported over the weekend that the airline disruptions were due to weather. Need I say more?

 

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The reported over the weekend that the airline disruptions were due to weather. Need I say more?

and they believed them

 

[silentkisser]

I say yes, but there are obvious caveats. I trust centrist MSM. I do not trust sources that tilt too far in either direction. As for the government, I feel as a Canadian our government is more trustworthy. While Trudeau may be a moron (which I don't think there is a lot of disagreement on that), I think he's been fairly straightforward in his handling of COVID. While that has become politicized (i.e. vaccines and masking), I do trust the health experts for the most part. I do not trust idiots I see on YouTube or Facebook.

 

[Valcazar]

This is a nonsense question if phrased as a binary yes/no.

 

[simon482]

They are bought and paid for. Absolutely not.

 

[Noddy]

Not to be paranoid but really you should have a healthy level of skepticism for everything. Big business, government, media, big pharma all have agendas and all ultimately chase money and power. That isnt to say everything is bad but one needs to be careful.

Vet your sources and ask good questions. Follow the science and fact. Remember fact is a thing that isn't overridden by loud opinion.

 

[fall]

I say yes, but there are obvious caveats. I trust centrist MSM. I do not trust sources that tilt too far in either direction. As for the government, I feel as a Canadian our government is more trustworthy. While Trudeau may be a moron (which I don't think there is a lot of disagreement on that), I think he's been fairly straightforward in his handling of COVID. While that has become politicized (i.e. vaccines and masking), I do trust the health experts for the most part. I do not trust idiots I see on YouTube or Facebook.

I think, the above statement in bold it is the joke of the day. No single politician was even close to being straightforward in their handling of COVID.

 

[barnacler]

I think, the above statement in bold it i the joke of the day. No single politician was even close to being straightforward in their handling of COVID.

Exactly. Remember, " The right vaccine is the first one they offer you?"

Or, prior to COVID, masks were deemed ineffective etc, all the about-faces.

 

[jcpro]

Speaking of trust in the media, looks like the CNN's Reliable Sources is entering the TVO's territory when it comes to ratings.

CNN’s Brian Stelter draws smallest audience of 2021 in category coveted by advertisers

CNN’s "Reliable Sources" with left-wing host Brian Stelter hit a new ratings low on Sunday in the category most coveted by advertisers.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Valcazar]

Brian Stetler is left-wing now?

 

[Valcazar]

Not to be paranoid but really you should have a healthy level of skepticism for everything. Big business, government, media, big pharma all have agendas and all ultimately chase money and power. That isnt to say everything is bad but one needs to be careful.

Vet your sources and ask good questions. Follow the science and fact. Remember fact is a thing that isn't overridden by loud opinion.

Yeah, but don't let them turn your honest skepticism turn into cynical rejection of truth. That's what the authoritarians count on.

Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness

-- Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism ​

 

[Drakarys]

Based on poll results I'd say that Silent Majority is a THING

 

[NotADcotor]

People who go on about not trusting the media but get their information from the likes of naturalnews or infowars are a bunch of mooks.

I'll stick to my favorite adult magazine The Economist.

Not that the media gets it right all the time but still my point stands.

As for the government, I'll trust but verify. If they say shortages are not a problem and there is reporting of people going sex nuts and retard strong for TP for the bunghole, I'll stock up. OTOH if the government and every medical authority says vaccines are safe, I'll bet my bottom dollar I'll take their word over some cunt wad like Mercola, David Wolfe or Donald Trump.

If you really refuse to believe anything the media or the government says, the only reasonable position to hold is extreme agnosticism. [Assuming that's a thing outside of religion, not going to look it up.

 

[Butler1000]

Simplistic approach to a very complex and nuanced question. There are certainly media entities that fall into the "trust" category and many that do not. Government the same in spades. Would you tar Anderson Cooper and Tucker Carlson with the same brush???

Considering Cooper is a CIA guy and a Vanderbilt.......Id say he has his own agenda yes.

 

[Butler1000]

Brian Stetler is left-wing now?

He is arguably the mist useless twat on TV today.