'It was a mistake': Justin Trudeau apologizes for Tofino trip on Truth and Reconciliation Day

[Anbarandy]

You know, it's not so much "forgiving him", as it is urban Canada just despising the Tories.

Trudeau is an embarrassing idiot. But he does what his more competent advisors tell him about stuff like COVID. And then he goes off to play dress-up or give silly PC speeches or whatever makes him happy this month. Compare that to having Kenney or Moe as PM and think of what a ape's shitpile those assholes would actually make of Canada.

Mystery solved. And that's why he will win the next election and the one after that and so on.

Agree

 

[rhuarc29]

Just shows how much what he says is mere lip service. First National Day for Truth and Reconciliation and he doesn't even consider that taking a vacation during it might be taken poorly? This is the guy who has preached over and over about the TRC commission and how much he supports the Indigenous populations.

 

[glamphotographer]

It wasn't a mistake you won an election, you deserve a vacation to trigger the righties.

 

[The Fox]

Truth and Reconciliation??? What a load of bollocks. Providing kids an education while the rest of the world were forced into coal mines and child labor.

It’s all a big stich up by the outrage mob. Trying to pin something from the past on you to make you feel guilty about it. Soon you’ll be made to feel guilty about raising a Canadian flag.

I can’t believe people fall for this shit. No wonder pyramid schemes work. Ffs. Lol.

 

[NotADcotor]

I love the fact that the front pages of the Canadian papers have been posting story after story about the Catholic Church screwing over reparations payments for Truth and Reconciliation yet all you guys are upset about is Trudeau taking a holiday off with his family.

Yeah but it's better than the Catholic Church literally fucking little boys. Those asses are probably glad for the break.
In other words, low expectations.
Also paying out big bucks actually costs something. Taking a different day [when you are the boss] is a huge nothing burger it's up there with getting a vaccine or choosing not to run over a dog when you are alone on the 401.

 

[NotADcotor]

It wasn't a mistake you won an election, you deserve a vacation to trigger the righties.

It's 10 times more fucked up for a lefty to not be triggered by this. I mean people who claim to care deeply about this and they don't give a fuck when twoplanes sods off on a day of recognition that he started?

So when a repuglican cheats on his wife by going balls deep with a young lad, that's OK because after all triggering lefties?
What you are doing is the same sort of bullshitery when Trumptards defend Trump for being an honest family man and a Jebus cultist even through he is not.

Political tribalism rots the brain.

 

[glamphotographer]

It's 10 times more fucked up for a lefty to not be triggered by this. I mean people who claim to care deeply about this and they don't give a fuck when twoplanes sods off on a day of recognition that he started?

So when a repuglican cheats on his wife by going balls deep with a young lad, that's OK because after all triggering lefties?
What you are doing is the same sort of bullshitery when Trumptards defend Trump for being an honest family man and a Jebus cultist even through he is not.

Political tribalism rots the brain.

Perhaps but if O'Toole won he would take off to the Bahamas.

 

[basketcase]

Regardless of your position, his extreme lack of judgement/callousness and his hypocrisy is an issue. ...

I agree but it is silly when people criticize him for doing things they fully support.

And he's still a better option for me than O'Toole and his crew.

 

[basketcase]

...
Ohhhh Canada how long can the Liberal lovers continue to re-elect him ...

Until people get bored or the Conservatives choose someone electable.

 

[NotADcotor]

I agree but it is silly when people criticize him for doing things they fully support.

But the criticism isn't for his lack of support, it's for being two faced.

Much like the blackface thing. I don't really care but when someone like him does it, and furthermore doesn't resign like he would demand others to do than yeah I will take issue with that.

 

[Frankfooter]

But the criticism isn't for his lack of support, it's for being two faced.

Much like the blackface thing. I don't really care but when someone like him does it, and furthermore doesn't resign like he would demand others to do than yeah I will take issue with that.

So you're saying because he took a day off on a holiday with his family after campaigning all summer he can't possibly be serious about native issues?

 

[NotADcotor]

So you're saying because he took a day off on a holiday with his family after campaigning all summer he can't possibly be serious about native issues?

Jesus H Christ you really don't know how to read do you.

It isn't that he took the day off, it's the day he chose to take off. The day that was all about reconciliation, it's in the fucking name. For fucks sake.
He could have gone the day before, or the day after, but on that day, no, either he really doesn't give a fuck or his judgement is seriously fucked up.
Again being a political cultist rots the brain.

If some right wing dude just so happened to go on vacay when a big local pride parade was going on instead of marching, you wouldn't have any problems with assuming he wasn't serious about gay issues.
Ditto for someone who was like, ah yeah about nov 11, I was at the cabin, couldn't go bruv. You would wonder that person's attachment to respecting vets.
Why is it so hard to understand... oh yeah, political cultism the same sort of cultist that has people actually beliving that Trump is an honest Jebus following family man.

 

[Frankfooter]

Jesus H Christ you really don't know how to read do you.

It isn't that he took the day off, it's the day he chose to take off. The day that was all about reconciliation, it's in the fucking name. For fucks sake.
He could have gone the day before, or the day after, but on that day, no, either he really doesn't give a fuck or his judgement is seriously fucked up.
Again being a political cultist rots the brain.

If some right wing dude just so happened to go on vacay when a big local pride parade was going on instead of marching, you wouldn't have any problems with assuming he wasn't serious about gay issues.
Ditto for someone who was like, ah yeah about nov 11, I was at the cabin, couldn't go bruv. You would wonder that person's attachment to respecting vets.
Why is it so hard to understand... oh yeah, political cultism the same sort of cultist that has people actually beliving that Trump is an honest Jebus following family man.

You guys are just so desperate for some kind of scandal that taking a holiday off with the family is the biggest thing since Trump colluded with Russians and tried to start a coup to overturn the election. Oh wait, none of the right wingers had a problem with that. No, you guys are really, really upset that more isn't being done to give our indigenous peoples more money and government services. Yes, you are champions of native rights and your numerous posts on the Catholic church, MMIWG and indigenous culture really have put me in my place. Its true that every liberal supporter is totally up in arms about Trudeau having a day off at the beach with his family. That's no way to run a country when you could be having yet another meeting, but this one will really fix the issues. I also take heart that you have posted so often on the 94 calls to action.
Its so heartening to hear that you fully support all 94 being implemented immediately and are so disappointed that Trudeau would choose a holiday to not get to work on this issue that is so dear to your hearts.

 

[james t kirk]

Truth and Reconciliation??? What a load of bollocks. Providing kids an education while the rest of the world were forced into coal mines and child labor.

It’s all a big stich up by the outrage mob. Trying to pin something from the past on you to make you feel guilty about it. Soon you’ll be made to feel guilty about raising a Canadian flag.

I can’t believe people fall for this shit. No wonder pyramid schemes work. Ffs. Lol.

I admit, I kind of wondered about that myself.

Residential schools were just boarding schools. There was no way the government could have built local schools in all those remote communities way back when. So they built central schools all over the map and sent the kids to the schools.

And why did they do that?

Well my guess is that that most if not all of the people in the native communities were unable to read and write. In any language. So the government figured they'd try and correct that and build schools and teach the kids to read and write and do math and whatever else. The natives today never stop talking about "our traditional ways and means" and it all being taken away from them. Well, bad news, there's no fucking future in being an illiterate beaver pelt hunter in 2021. You need an education and I don't consider learning how to fish and hunt and pick berries much of an education. Nothing that can't be learned in 15 minutes.

Were residential schools perfect? No fucking way. But at the same time, I don't think that the nuns took the kids out back and shot them either. And as you say, they didn't put them to work in the mines, though a lot of them probably ended up there anyway, but not when they were 10. I refuse to believe that absolutely everyone connected to residential schools were sadists and evil. I'm sure there was some, even a good number that were sadists, but was that any different than any other school at the time? Hell, I remember "the strap" when I was a kid at school. I never got it. I didn't know anyone who did in fact, but we heard about it all the time. I remember one kid in my grade 6 class got sent "to the office" for some fucked up behavior or another and we all wondered if he was going to "get the strap" He came back and said that no, he didn't get the strap but that the principal pulled it out of his desk drawer and slammed it down on the desk and threatened him with it. I have no idea if it any of it was true. Who knows.

I remember back 25 years or more ago when I first began hearing about residential schools there were 2 sides to the story. There were lots of native people who went to residential schools and liked it. But their voices have been long since drowned out and now it's nothing but the darkness and the evil of the place.

What was the government of the day supposed to do? Not provide an education for the native kids? Let the cycle of complete illiteracy just keep on going? Can you imagine the outrage that that would cause today?

 

[Frankfooter]

I admit, I kind of wondered about that myself.

Residential schools were just boarding schools. There was no way the government could have built local schools in all those remote communities way back when. So they built central schools all over the map and sent the kids to the schools.

And why did they do that?

Well my guess is that that most if not all of the people in the native communities were unable to read and write. In any language. So the government figured they'd try and correct that and build schools and teach the kids to read and write and do math and whatever else. The natives today never stop talking about "our traditional ways and means" and it all being taken away from them. Well, bad news, there's no fucking future in being an illiterate beaver pelt hunter in 2021. You need an education and I don't consider learning how to fish and hunt and pick berries much of an education. Nothing that can't be learned in 15 minutes.

Were residential schools perfect? No fucking way. But at the same time, I don't think that the nuns took the kids out back and shot them either. And as you say, they didn't put them to work in the mines, though a lot of them probably ended up there anyway, but not when they were 10. I refuse to believe that absolutely everyone connected to residential schools were sadists and evil. I'm sure there was some, even a good number that were sadists, but was that any different than any other school at the time? Hell, I remember "the strap" when I was a kid at school. I never got it. I didn't know anyone who did in fact, but we heard about it all the time. I remember one kid in my grade 6 class got sent "to the office" for some fucked up behavior or another and we all wondered if he was going to "get the strap" He came back and said that no, he didn't get the strap but that the principal pulled it out of his desk drawer and slammed it down on the desk and threatened him with it. I have no idea if it any of it was true. Who knows.

I remember back 25 years or more ago when I first began hearing about residential schools there were 2 sides to the story. There were lots of native people who went to residential schools and liked it. But their voices have been long since drowned out and now it's nothing but the darkness and the evil of the place.

What was the government of the day supposed to do? Not provide an education for the native kids? Let the cycle of complete illiteracy just keep on going? Can you imagine the outrage that that would cause today?

1 - when their kids were forcibly taken from them they had a survival rate that was lower then sending your kid to WWI
2 - erasing native languages and culture from entire generations has left native communities and peoples seriously messed up

 

[NotADcotor]

1 - when their kids were forcibly taken from them they had a survival rate that was lower then sending your kid to WWI

Yeah gonna need a citation on that one.

 

[rhuarc29]

It wasn't a mistake you won an election, you deserve a vacation to trigger the righties.

Pretty sure it's the lefties who are triggered by him taking the vacation. If anything, the righties are gleeful.

 

[Anbarandy]

I admit, I kind of wondered about that myself.

Residential schools were just boarding schools. There was no way the government could have built local schools in all those remote communities way back when. So they built central schools all over the map and sent the kids to the schools.

And why did they do that?

Well my guess is that that most if not all of the people in the native communities were unable to read and write. In any language. So the government figured they'd try and correct that and build schools and teach the kids to read and write and do math and whatever else. The natives today never stop talking about "our traditional ways and means" and it all being taken away from them. Well, bad news, there's no fucking future in being an illiterate beaver pelt hunter in 2021. You need an education and I don't consider learning how to fish and hunt and pick berries much of an education. Nothing that can't be learned in 15 minutes.

Were residential schools perfect? No fucking way. But at the same time, I don't think that the nuns took the kids out back and shot them either. And as you say, they didn't put them to work in the mines, though a lot of them probably ended up there anyway, but not when they were 10. I refuse to believe that absolutely everyone connected to residential schools were sadists and evil. I'm sure there was some, even a good number that were sadists, but was that any different than any other school at the time? Hell, I remember "the strap" when I was a kid at school. I never got it. I didn't know anyone who did in fact, but we heard about it all the time. I remember one kid in my grade 6 class got sent "to the office" for some fucked up behavior or another and we all wondered if he was going to "get the strap" He came back and said that no, he didn't get the strap but that the principal pulled it out of his desk drawer and slammed it down on the desk and threatened him with it. I have no idea if it any of it was true. Who knows.

I remember back 25 years or more ago when I first began hearing about residential schools there were 2 sides to the story. There were lots of native people who went to residential schools and liked it. But their voices have been long since drowned out and now it's nothing but the darkness and the evil of the place.

What was the government of the day supposed to do? Not provide an education for the native kids? Let the cycle of complete illiteracy just keep on going? Can you imagine the outrage that that would cause today?

Wow. Just wow.

 

[The Fox]

1 - when their kids were forcibly taken from them they had a survival rate that was lower then sending your kid to WWI

Lol. Ffs. Good point. I’d rather have a Bayonet twisted in my ribs than endure a math lesson.

 

[Dutch Oven]

I admit, I kind of wondered about that myself.

Residential schools were just boarding schools. There was no way the government could have built local schools in all those remote communities way back when. So they built central schools all over the map and sent the kids to the schools.

And why did they do that?

Well my guess is that that most if not all of the people in the native communities were unable to read and write. In any language. So the government figured they'd try and correct that and build schools and teach the kids to read and write and do math and whatever else. The natives today never stop talking about "our traditional ways and means" and it all being taken away from them. Well, bad news, there's no fucking future in being an illiterate beaver pelt hunter in 2021. You need an education and I don't consider learning how to fish and hunt and pick berries much of an education. Nothing that can't be learned in 15 minutes.

Were residential schools perfect? No fucking way. But at the same time, I don't think that the nuns took the kids out back and shot them either. And as you say, they didn't put them to work in the mines, though a lot of them probably ended up there anyway, but not when they were 10. I refuse to believe that absolutely everyone connected to residential schools were sadists and evil. I'm sure there was some, even a good number that were sadists, but was that any different than any other school at the time? Hell, I remember "the strap" when I was a kid at school. I never got it. I didn't know anyone who did in fact, but we heard about it all the time. I remember one kid in my grade 6 class got sent "to the office" for some fucked up behavior or another and we all wondered if he was going to "get the strap" He came back and said that no, he didn't get the strap but that the principal pulled it out of his desk drawer and slammed it down on the desk and threatened him with it. I have no idea if it any of it was true. Who knows.

I remember back 25 years or more ago when I first began hearing about residential schools there were 2 sides to the story. There were lots of native people who went to residential schools and liked it. But their voices have been long since drowned out and now it's nothing but the darkness and the evil of the place.

What was the government of the day supposed to do? Not provide an education for the native kids? Let the cycle of complete illiteracy just keep on going? Can you imagine the outrage that that would cause today?

Truth that ought to be considered before there's any reconciliation.

Seems to me we're still a long way from public consensus on the full truth. Maybe we shouldn't be clamouring to teach something in the public schools before it's fully and properly understood?