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Tucker Carlson admits he’s a liar, but ‘tries’ not to lie on television

jcpro

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Distrust in the media is one of the major planks of fascism.
Questioning everything, keeping an open mind and skepticism are signs of wisdom. Trusting the media that is constantly lying to you is a sign of mental instability or plain old stupidity.
 

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Questioning everything, keeping an open mind and skepticism are signs of wisdom. Trusting the media that is constantly lying to you is a sign of mental instability or plain old stupidity.
So why do you keep trusting media that is clearly lying to you?
Why do you back horse dewormer over the vaccine that all our doctors trust?
Why are you still arguing that Trump isn't corrupt or didn't lie to you?

I trust in the work of CBC because it has an ombudsman that actually will take action when articles are found inaccurate or too biased.
You won't even say where you get your news from.
 
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jcpro

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So why do you keep trusting media that is clearly lying to you?
Why do you back horse dewormer over the vaccine that all our doctors trust?
Why are you still arguing that Trump isn't corrupt or didn't lie to you?

I trust in the work of CBC because it has an ombudsman that actually will take action when articles are found inaccurate or too biased.
You won't even say where you get your news from.
Lol!! You're funny, mate.
 

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Questioning everything, keeping an open mind and skepticism are signs of wisdom. Trusting the media that is constantly lying to you is a sign of mental instability or plain old stupidity.
So what basis of truth do you use? Do you trust science or politicians more ? Do you try to find fringe scientists that agree with your views even though they are discredited by the mainstream community ? Do you use your own intuition to decide what is true or not ? Trump uses his gut, what do you use or do you blindly follow Fox News opt Ed pieces to determine what is true or not ?
 
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Dutch Oven

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Tucker Carlson is the greatest talent in political commentary on the air today.
 

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Tucker Carlson is the greatest talent in political commentary on the air today.
What about all time best propagandist?
Do you reckon goebbels was better?
 

jcpro

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So what basis of truth do you use? Do you trust science or politicians more ? Do you try to find fringe scientists that agree with your views even though they are discredited by the mainstream community ? Do you use your own intuition to decide what is true or not ? Trump uses his gut, what do you use or do you blindly follow Fox News opt Ed pieces to determine what is true or not ?
The answer is right in my post; the very first sentence.
 

Dutch Oven

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What about all time best propagandist?
Do you reckon goebbels was better?
Who do you claim his "propaganda" is in service of? He's not big fan of Trump, McConnell or even McCarthy. Who is the bogeyman you see lurking in the shadows?
 

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jcpro

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I didn't think you'd be able to answer honestly.
Who do you claim his "propaganda" is in service of? He's not big fan of Trump, McConnell or even McCarthy. Who is the bogeyman you see lurking in the shadows?
It's his ratings and the influence that scares them. The inability to silence him makes them furious.
 

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So what basis of truth do you use? Do you trust science or politicians more ? Do you try to find fringe scientists that agree with your views even though they are discredited by the mainstream community?
Have you ever thought about why "mad scientists" are archetypal villains in literature/movies? It's because scientists have their own ways of exercising power over the public, and that power, in the wrong hands, can harm the public every bit as much (or more) than misused political power.

Reasonable people don't decide who to trust based solely on their occupation. The test of persuasiveness lies in logic, not credentialism, and the test of ethics is found in deeds, not claims.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Have you ever thought about why "mad scientists" are archetypal villains in literature/movies? It's because scientists have their own ways of exercising power over the public, and that power, in the wrong hands, can harm the public every bit as much (or more) than misused political power.

Reasonable people don't decide who to trust based solely on their occupation. The test of persuasiveness lies in logic, not credentialism, and the test of ethics is found in deeds, not claims.
Yes some unscrupulous scientists use false models to try to dupe the public for monetary gains. This was evident in climate change deniers, those who said cigarettes are not bad for you and polio can only be cured by chiropractors. Believing in conspiracy theories is not a sign of being logical but rather the opposite. You have have sources like Fox News and qanon which deny science not based on rigorous testing but instead using the OJ Defense - namely to question the accusers or in this case the scientists. This in no way proves their misguided theories are correct. If you ever studied formal logic you would understand that virtually every fox article is misleading and false. The sensational headlines are never backed up with facts. Quite the opposite is true. Just like the big lie - believers think that it is Logical proof that since joe Biden did not have big rallies there is no way he could have gotten 81,000,000 votes. This is not proof of anything but foolishness. It fails to take the proven facts into account and somehow trumpers believe that their logic proves it to be true. The facts are joe Biden did get 81,000,000 votes and after months of investigation absolutely 0 proof exists to the contrary. I can’t believe how naive the trumpers are that they think by questioning the motives of the judges, vote counters etc that they are proving anything. I think only an idiot would believe that so many judges are so politically corrupt that they would ruin their careers and reputations because they don’t like trump. That argument holds as much weight as the earth being flat or the earth being the centre of the universe
 

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Yes some unscrupulous scientists use false models to try to dupe the public for monetary gains. This was evident in climate change deniers, those who said cigarettes are not bad for you and polio can only be cured by chiropractors. Believing in conspiracy theories is not a sign of being logical but rather the opposite. You have have sources like Fox News and qanon which deny science not based on rigorous testing but instead using the OJ Defense - namely to question the accusers or in this case the scientists. This in no way proves their misguided theories are correct. If you ever studied formal logic you would understand that virtually every fox article is misleading and false. The sensational headlines are never backed up with facts. Quite the opposite is true. Just like the big lie - believers think that it is Logical proof that since joe Biden did not have big rallies there is no way he could have gotten 81,000,000 votes. This is not proof of anything but foolishness. It fails to take the proven facts into account and somehow trumpers believe that their logic proves it to be true. The facts are joe Biden did get 81,000,000 votes and after months of investigation absolutely 0 proof exists to the contrary. I can’t believe how naive the trumpers are that they think by questioning the motives of the judges, vote counters etc that they are proving anything. I think only an idiot would believe that so many judges are so politically corrupt that they would ruin their careers and reputations because they don’t like trump. That argument holds as much weight as the earth being flat or the earth being the centre of the universe
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It's his ratings and the influence that scares them. The inability to silence him makes them furious.
The only worrying thing is how easily fascists and white supremacists can make you disbelieve legit news reports and support corruption, violence and racial supremacy.
 

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What about all time best propagandist?
Do you reckon goebbels was better?
I don't think I've seen in my entire life a greater false equivalency. Tucker or Goebbels ?
Trump is/was a polarizing figure no doubt but comparing him to Hilter is stupidity in it's purest form. Comon man.
 
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