Scientists still not sure about natural Covid immunity

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The Israeli Study suggests that natural immunity is significantly more effective than vaxxed immunity - although everything is open to reassessment and 2nd guessing.

You get that immunity by surviving - or not - COVID though. And not everyone survives or survives unimpaired.

The initial findings of the study were to the effect that natural immunity should be topped up with vaxxing from time to time. And there is also a suggestion that older people lose vaxxed immunity and therefore need boosters.

There is now a suggestion that getting vaxxed at the initial suggested time frame of 3 - 4 weeks was too early to let immunity develop to its optimum. And that Moderna might be more effective than Pfizer.

Again, all very speculative.

If you check those Z Dogg MD videos I post, a lot of this stuff is in depth discussed in them.
 

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The Israeli Study suggests that natural immunity is significantly more effective than vaxxed immunity - although everything is open to reassessment and 2nd guessing.

You get that immunity by surviving - or not - COVID though. And not everyone survives or survives unimpaired.

The initial findings of the study were to the effect that natural immunity should be topped up with vaxxing from time to time. And there is also a suggestion that older people lose vaxxed immunity and therefore need boosters.

There is now a suggestion that getting vaxxed at the initial suggested time frame of 3 - 4 weeks was too early to let immunity develop to its optimum. And that Moderna might be more effective than Pfizer.

Again, all very speculative.

If you check those Z Dogg MD videos I post, a lot of this stuff is in depth discussed in them.
Z Dog has been on my watch list for while. Smart guy. Good communicator.
 

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Didn't we deal with this already. Amazing the propaganda circuit quotes studies but ignores the part that says natural immunity + vaccine is better than just natural immunity.
 

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Didn't we deal with this already. Amazing the propaganda circuit quotes studies but ignores the part that says natural immunity + vaccine is better than just natural immunity.
Agreed.

The preliminary results of the studies around natural immunity due to past infection are promising.

But the studies are really weak.
-Very small participant group given ‘sample.’
-No controls or even regular testing for COVID and antibody load.
-6-months is not a lot of data, especially when peak protection appears to wane at that point for antibody production.

It would be a mistake at this point to allow anyone without vaccinations into Ford’s Passport program.
 
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I'm sure natural immunity is better than the 3rd shot of Pfizer.
I mean, if the Darwin Award hopefuls decide to keep their communities safe by throwing COVID-parties a couple times a year, I don’t think many of the rest of us would be surprised.

It was a mistake for the scientists involved in the studies to even warn about the risks of ‘natural protection through surviving an infection.’ Clear warnings seem to attract these rubes more than anything else.

“Can’t wait” to hear the Karen’s screaming at workers refusing them entry even though they definitely just recently had COVID.
 
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What's the "durability" of the vaccine? When was this established?
Its not durable at all. As it stands now we need a booster shot every 6 months or so.
And who knows how many years we would have to continue that. Maybe lifelong??
 

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Its not durable at all. As it stands now we need a booster shot every 6 months or so.
And who knows how many years we would have to continue that. Maybe lifelong??
It's a liquid placebo or saline as they used at the North York clinic I bet these politicians getting on live TV are probably being injected with saline to play face.
 

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It's a liquid placebo or saline as they used at the North York clinic I bet these politicians getting on live TV are probably being injected with saline to play face.
There were 6 individuals that got saline instead of a vaccine at the end of March at Mackenzie Health. They were notified and the mistake was immediately corrected.

But, you seem so credible, so it must be true and not further evidence of your delusional thinking. And being a responsible citizen and TERB member, I can’t imagine an upstanding person such as yourself would ever consider intentionally spreading misinformation.

It must be the saline that’s keeping the “vaccinated” out of hospitals. Right?
 
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There were 6 individuals that got saline instead of a vaccine at the end of March at Mackenzie Health. They were notified and the mistake was immediately corrected.

But, you seem so credible, so it must be true and not further evidence of your delusional thinking. And being a responsible citizen and TERB member, I can’t imagine an upstanding person such as yourself would ever consider intentionally spreading misinformation.

It must be the saline that’s keeping the “vaccinated” out of hospitals. Right?
And yet you believe that hospitals are over capacity with people taking a topical skin medication orally and that it got so bad that they had to let gun shot victims die to treat the folks eating horse paste.
 

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And yet you believe that hospitals are over capacity with people taking a topical skin medication orally and that it got so bad that they had to let gun shot victims die to treat the folks eating horse paste.
I read something about a Misssisspi hospital emerg being full of Ivermectin patients, but it came across as a “Florida Man…” story to me.

The topical cream-thing and gun shot victims-thing is brand new to me. They both seem silly.

But back to you.

Care to share a source to help me more deeply understand why/how everyone is getting saline injections?

Why are the “vaccines” causing Myocarditis and blood clots or anaphylactic reactions if they were just saline?

What is keeping all the people with the placebo injections out of hospitals? Even if the statistics and reports from healthcare workers are totally made up, wouldn’t we by now see about as many celebrities, politicians, ordinary citizens with pro-vaccine views, and social media that supports it, getting sick?

I am genuinely excited for the opportunity to read the investigation that led to the article that informed you about all leaders getting placebo shots.

Please share 🙏.
 
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If hospitals are over capacity because they’re ingesting skin medication, I heard it from you first.

There was a flakey-source in the US that told at least one local media outlet that one or some hospitals in Mississippi had a bunch of patients in hospital after ingesting some form of Ivermectin, if I recall.

If it was being reported that hospitals were ever unable to treat gunshot wound patients because of Ivermectin or topical cream, sadly I missed those stories.
 

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Thank you 🙏

You found a story about a story I’m not sure I ever actually read beyond a headline.

What’s really important to me in your reply is that clearly, you can post links and care deeply about clearing up misinformation.

I can’t find any support for the other stuff you are posting about in this thread. Placebos for the masses, but leaders are in the know?

I am really hoping that you’d share another high-quality source for information to clear up my misunderstandings.

Please and thanks 😊
 
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seagerbuzz

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Thank you 🙏

You found a story about a story I’m not sure I ever actually read beyond a headline.

What’s really important to me in your reply is that clearly, you can post links and care deeply about clearing up misinformation.

I can’t find any support for the other stuff you are posting about in this thread. Placebos for the masses, but leaders are in the know?

I am really hoping that you’d share another high-quality source for information to clear up my misunderstandings.

Please and thanks 😊
ttps://rifnote.com/2021/09/11/a-new-study-from-university-of-california-found-that-teenage-boys-are-more-at-risk-from-vaccines-than-covid-6-times-more-likely-to-suffer-from-heart-problems-from-the-vaccine-than-be-hospitalized-fro/

 
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