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Jubee

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You should think twice before encouraging anyone to take this vacine, i personally know 3 ppl that almost died from fizer, and have heart issues, just from the first dose, you may have been lucky to have no issues, with first 2 doses, but 3-4 are coming up in spring-fall of 2022, you might not be se lucky the next time around..... These are healthy young ppl in their 20s i am talking about... I got my 2 and was lucky enough, but after a friend collapsed in front of me with chest pain and shortness lf breath 2 days after receiving it, and new announcements of dose 3-4 i am done with this shit.



 
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Open Wide

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Just a question take it as you want..but with all these protocols are we suggesting that being vaxxed is stopping people from passing covid along when most can acknowledge that right now the vaccine isn't even a vaccine and more so is just a shot...we are pretty much agreeing to having big brother monitor our movements under the guise of safety protocols...
What exactly is going on in your life or anyone else's that makes it beneficial for the government to secretly track your movements?

If useless vaccines are just a pretext for big brother to monitor everyone, what is the big payoff once they've figured out everywhere you're going?
 
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BananaBoy88

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Picture this employer mandates covid shots, employee takea it, and in turn dies or is permanently disabled as there is lots of cases...... What than?
It's an interesting scenario. And as more businesses mandate taking the vaccine, it's something we may end up finding out. At the end of the day, I think we let things play out and see where it goes.
 

nervousintheservice

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What exactly is going on in your life or anyone else's that makes it beneficial for the government to secretly track your movements?

If useless vaccines are just a pretext for big brother to monitor everyone, what is the big payoff once they've figured out everywhere you're going?
Everyone has a cell phone now. They already track you.
 

Aioria

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What exactly is going on in your life or anyone else's that makes it beneficial for the government to secretly track your movements?

If useless vaccines are just a pretext for big brother to monitor everyone, what is the big payoff once they've figured out everywhere you're going?
The vaccination passports are not implemented to track you. They're in place so that more people end up taking the shots otherwise they will not be able to partake in various day-to-day activities.
 

six_pac

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I see a large effort to discredit these ppl that were brave enough to come out and talk aboit their experiences, i have personally withnesed ppl getting extremely sick form first and second shot..... Some with serious lingering aide effects that i pray to go clear up.

Rare vaccine side effects
Rare reactions that have been reported and confirmed after taking a mRNA vaccine are:

A severe allergic (anaphylaxis) reaction following vaccination is also rare. Signs and symptoms of anaphylaxis may include:

  • hives (bumps on the skin that are often very itchy)
  • swelling of the lips, face, tongue or airway
  • difficulty breathing
  • increased heart rate
  • loss of consciousness
  • sudden low blood pressure
  • abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea
Call emergency services if you develop or witness any serious symptoms that could be an allergic reaction after vaccination.

Talk to your doctor about any serious allergies or health conditions you may have before you get a vaccine.

This vaccine does not contain common food allergens, such as eggs, shellfish, gluten or nuts.

Reporting a possible serious reaction
Contact your health care provider if you experience:

  • a side effect following vaccination with a COVID-19 vaccine
  • any persistent, new or worsening symptoms
Health care providers must report possible reactions following vaccination to their local public health authority. The public health authority then reports them to the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Reported allergic reactions and side effects to COVID-19 vaccines are published weekly in our Reported side effects following COVID-19 vaccination report.
 
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six_pac

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I see a large effort to discredit these ppl that were brave enough to come out and talk aboit their experiences, i have personally withnesed ppl getting extremely sick form first and second shot..... Some with serious lingering aide effects that i pray to go clear up.

Rare vaccine side effects
Rare reactions that have been reported and confirmed after taking a mRNA vaccine are:

A severe allergic (anaphylaxis) reaction following vaccination is also rare. Signs and symptoms of anaphylaxis may include:

  • hives (bumps on the skin that are often very itchy)
  • swelling of the lips, face, tongue or airway
  • difficulty breathing
  • increased heart rate
  • loss of consciousness
  • sudden low blood pressure
  • abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea
Call emergency services if you develop or witness any serious symptoms that could be an allergic reaction after vaccination.

Talk to your doctor about any serious allergies or health conditions you may have before you get a vaccine.

This vaccine does not contain common food allergens, such as eggs, shellfish, gluten or nuts.

Reporting a possible serious reaction
Contact your health care provider if you experience:

  • a side effect following vaccination with a COVID-19 vaccine
  • any persistent, new or worsening symptoms
Health care providers must report possible reactions following vaccination to their local public health authority. The public health authority then reports them to the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Reported allergic reactions and side effects to COVID-19 vaccines are published weekly in our Reported side effects following COVID-19 vaccination report.
Also to put this in perspective these are official health canada bulitens, except myocarsitis, and precirditis, are the most common side effects that are covered up, as well as heart attacks that happene in young fit ppl weeks after receiving the vacine, and they are just rarely assigned to the vacine, so take at your own risk, there is just not enough care for ppl after the administration of the deug, and introducing passport system and allowing kids to take vacine is just plain criminal and as diabolical as it comes
 
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Also to put this in perspective these are official health canada bulitens, except myocarsitis, and precirditis, are the most common side effects that are covered up, as well as heart attacks that happene in young fit ppl weeks after receiving the vacine, and they are just rarely assigned to the vacine, so take at your own risk, there is just not enough care for ppl after the administration of the deug, and introducing passport system and allowing kids to take vacine is just plain criminal and as diabolical as it comes
All the people I know including dozens of FB friends have had no side effects. And I've asked them if they know if anyone they know have had side effects and the answer has been no. of course this is personal experience, but I see that the side effects are rare.
 

six_pac

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All the people I know including dozens of FB friends have had no side effects. And I've asked them if they know if anyone they know have had side effects and the answer has been no. of course this is personal experience, but I see that the side effects are rare.
I am really glad to hear that they were very lucky, and nuts to them i know 3 ppl that got quite sick and one with permanent health problems
 

Open Wide

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The vaccination passports are not implemented to track you. They're in place so that more people end up taking the shots otherwise they will not be able to partake in various day-to-day activities.
Agreed. But the poster I'm asking seems to think the whole pandemic is just a ruse to enable government tracking of citizens. I'd love for someone espousing this theory to explain what is so beneficial to the government about knowing where the mass of humanity of little consequence are located? What's so useful about tracking people that merits that level of subterfuge, deception and conspiracy?
 

CaramelBro

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Agreed. But the poster I'm asking seems to think the whole pandemic is just a ruse to enable government tracking of citizens. I'd love for someone espousing this theory to explain what is so beneficial to the government about knowing where the mass of humanity of little consequence are located? What's so useful about tracking people that merits that level of subterfuge, deception and conspiracy?
Actually I don't believe the entire pandemic is some sort of ruse...I acknowledge that covid is real and exists. As to whether one wants to believe that the extent of what is being done isn't to control the masses then that simply your opinion. However, a shot that now needs to be supplemented by an additional shot and possibly many more based on the continuing evolution of this virus is enough for me to sit on the sidelines and wait for the experimental period of this "vaccine" to be completed. We all know that they track us through our debit/credit cards, cellphones etc but now we are speaking about tracking people via their person medical information. The whole point is that a passport creates a two tiered society and that is my main issue!!
 

Open Wide

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Actually I don't believe the entire pandemic is some sort of ruse...I acknowledge that covid is real and exists. As to whether one wants to believe that the extent of what is being done isn't to control the masses then that simply your opinion. However, a shot that now needs to be supplemented by an additional shot and possibly many more based on the continuing evolution of this virus is enough for me to sit on the sidelines and wait for the experimental period of this "vaccine" to be completed. We all know that they track us through our debit/credit cards, cellphones etc but now we are speaking about tracking people via their person medical information. The whole point is that a passport creates a two tiered society and that is my main issue!!
Still trying to understand WHY the government would want to track us... what's the point? Debit / credit cards / cell phones it's not the government tracking.

What's the goal? What's in it for the government to go to all that trouble? If you're so certain the whole point is to control the masses shouldn't you know the reason?

I'm glad you acknowledge that the pandemic is real. Do you believe that vaccines are designed to reduce the impact of covid, or are they legerdemain simply to trick people into being tracked?

The whole point of a vaccine passport is to create a one tiered society that has way less covid issues to deal with. That is, if you believe vaccines do anything useful from a health perspective. But apparently you don't. What do you even mean that the vaccine isn't even a vaccine?
 
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CaramelBro

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Still trying to understand WHY the government would want to track us... what's the point? Debit / credit cards / cell phones it's not the government tracking.

What's the goal? What's in it for the government to go to all that trouble? If you're so certain the whole point is to control the masses shouldn't you know the reason?

I'm glad you acknowledge that the pandemic is real. Do you believe that vaccines are designed to reduce the impact of covid, or are they legerdemain simply to trick people into being tracked?

The whole point of a vaccine passport is to create a one tiered society that has way less covid issues to deal with. That is, if you believe vaccines do anything useful from a health perspective. But apparently you don't. What do you even mean that the vaccine isn't even a vaccine?
I would agree with your statement if not for one glaring fact. Regardless of whether someone is vaccinated or not you can still spread covid. So when you want to attend an event with only individuals who have been vaccinated you arent any safer than attending one with unvaccinated people. This shot only gives the recipient the ability to fight infection better and that is still not proven to be true...honestly we are Terb brothers and you have a point of view and I clearly have mine. But for the record based on the definition of vaccine I dont believe this is currently what is happening.

Vaccines are products that produce immunity to a specific disease. When you are immune to a disease, it means you are protected against that disease (you can be exposed to it without becoming sick).

Eventually I will also take one of these shots but it will need to do exactly what that definition says and with talks of boosters and 4 and 5th shots we are not there yet.
 

Ssjsamo

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I would agree with your statement if not for one glaring fact. Regardless of whether someone is vaccinated or not you can still spread covid. So when you want to attend an event with only individuals who have been vaccinated you arent any safer than attending one with unvaccinated people.
I think this is where your disconnect is. We are significantly safer in a vaccinated group setting because chances of transmission, severe illness and hospitalization are significantly reduced. See my post below from earlier in this thread.

 

thecrazyjammer

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Still trying to understand WHY the government would want to track us... what's the point? Debit / credit cards / cell phones it's not the government tracking.

What's the goal? What's in it for the government to go to all that trouble? If you're so certain the whole point is to control the masses shouldn't you know the reason?

I'm glad you acknowledge that the pandemic is real. Do you believe that vaccines are designed to reduce the impact of covid, or are they legerdemain simply to trick people into being tracked?

The whole point of a vaccine passport is to create a one tiered society that has way less covid issues to deal with. That is, if you believe vaccines do anything useful from a health perspective. But apparently you don't. What do you even mean that the vaccine isn't even a vaccine?
Also to add to this, if the government really wanted to "test" on us, why not just put whatever "test" they have into Tylenol, flu shot, or any other medication that is readily consumed by people. They big pharma are already in on it, so why make it so blatant and use this "fake" vaccine to control people. There are plenty of ways the government could do it, why pick the one way they know there will be resistance?
 
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NotADcotor

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Still trying to understand WHY the government would want to track us... what's the point? Debit / credit cards / cell phones it's not the government tracking.
I guess it's one of those things, like aliens and anal probing. All they have learned is that some dudes really enjoy the process but they keep doing it.

 

bdybldr

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T.O.
My friend died of blood clots.
Another feels fatigue daily.

It's a medical procedure and you don't have to take it.

So many injured. When government officials say it's safe show them they're own stats. They get red in the face and start to stutter.

Goal posts keep moving. That's how I know they're lying 🤥.

This is first step of loss of freedom.

This will come down the pipe if we don't say no now.

We went from 2 weeks to flatten the curve to Show me your papers Comrade, pretty quick.

Genetic passports are the goal. Are your genetics good enough?
 

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I think this is where your disconnect is. We are significantly safer in a vaccinated group setting because chances of transmission, severe illness and hospitalization are significantly reduced. See my post below from earlier in this thread.

I agree that the vaccinated groups have significantly less chance of hospitalization than the unvaccinated at least at this point in the pandemic with the predominating variants but I am not so certain about the vaccinated having a significantly less chance of transmitting the virus than do the unvaccinated groups at this point.
Also is Canada able to detect the Mu variant and are the break through infections among the vaccinated associated with the Mu variant or with the Delta variant?
Ottawa should close the border to Americans entering Canada by car immediately, even the double vaccinated. It would score Trudeau some political points and show that he is being proactive and actually has a pair.
 
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