Israeli snipers attack Gaza children

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So much for you wanting to wait until investigations before criticizing. But of course your double standard never applies that to Hamas or other Palestinian factions.

HRW investigated, I posted that info. So there was a legit investigation. As I continue to say, investigate both sides based off Besides, posting that using missiles to destroy 14 residential towers hosting media outlets is terrorism should not be controversial.
Unless of course you're the one backing terrorism and apartheid. Then you're looking for any excuse to defend your settler colonialism and justify targeting civilians.

Gaza: Apparent War Crimes During May Fighting

Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups carried out attacks during the May 2021 fighting in the Gaza Strip and Israel that violated the laws of war and apparently amount to war crimes.

www.hrw.org

Source?

I've been asking you to provide some context for a couple weeks now other than your reflexive Israel bad, Palestinians good.

Defence for Children International.
Omar was standing 70-100 meters (229-328 feet) away from the perimeter fence observing the demonstrations when Israeli forces shot him around 5:30 p.m. He lost consciousness instantly, an eyewitness told DCIP. The bullet entered the front side of Omar’s neck and exited the back side, damaging his windpipe and carotid artery and stopping his heart.

So for the last couple of weeks you've been posting that Israel is justified to shoot children with zero evidence to justify this?
Wow.

I do my research and use legit sources while you, at best, quote IDF press releases which are as trustworthy as Hamas press releases.
For two weeks you've been defending shooting a 13 year with zero justifications for this act of terrorism?
Wow.

Keep reaching.

Is that what Botha used to say?

As said, pinkwashing is made-up pseudo-activism.

No, trying to claim that Israel's apartheid is ok because they have a pride parade, as you continue to do, is pinkwashing and lead to annual protests in Toronto.

p.s. I support the movement of BLM but considering there are dozens of different BLM organizations, I don't blindly accept everything each one says. I know you are incapable of seeing the world in a purely partisan way but most actual humans consider the content of the views, not simply what side of an argument someone is on.

BLM is now protesting you and your ideas.
You are the face of settler colonialism, the supporter of apartheid.

 

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HRW investigated, I posted that info. So there was a legit investigation....

Strange because whenever I've countered you with investigations from you HRW, Amnesty, or B'Tselem criticizing Hamas you blow it off and claim you will wait for the ICC. As always you pathetically apply a double standard, instantly accepting any criticism of Israel even from random tweets but refuse to apply the same standard to Hamas or Palestinian factions.

And sorry but if you automatically reject any statements by Israeli authorities, why do you think I should accept that of an organization with PFLP members on its board of directors?

Defense for Children International – Palestine’s Ties to the PFLP Terrorist Organization - ngomonitor

Defense for Children International-Palestine (DCI-P) is a Palestinian NGO that claims to promote Palestinian children’s rights. However, many current and former officials, employees, and board members have links to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

www.ngo-monitor.org

As I said before, if an innocent peaceful protester was shot, it's wrong. If he was shot as part of a violent group, it's not, no matter how old he is.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433485050704769025

 

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BLM is now protesting you and your ideas.
...

Strange but I haven't seen a single protester outside my home of place of work. WTF are you talking about?

And I see you ignore that BLM is a general concept as well as dozens of individual organizations. Do you agree with everything put out by every single one of those organizations?

 

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Strange because whenever I've countered you with investigations from you HRW, Amnesty, or B'Tselem criticizing Hamas you blow it off and claim you will wait for the ICC. As always you pathetically apply a double standard, instantly accepting any criticism of Israel even from random tweets but refuse to apply the same standard to Hamas or Palestinian factions.

Nice try, but you are the one justifying shooting a 13 year old 70-100m from the wall. Tell me when I haven't applied that standard to Hamas.
Or how about the Great March of Return, show me where Hamas shot Israeli protesters every Friday for a year and I didn't apply the same standard.
Or how about the occupation, is Hamas occupying any countries?
Apartheid, is Hamas running any occupied countries through apartheid?

And sorry but if you automatically reject any statements by Israeli authorities, why do you think I should accept that of an organization with PFLP members on its board of directors?

Defense for Children International – Palestine’s Ties to the PFLP Terrorist Organization - ngomonitor

Defense for Children International-Palestine (DCI-P) is a Palestinian NGO that claims to promote Palestinian children’s rights. However, many current and former officials, employees, and board members have links to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

www.ngo-monitor.org

NGO monitor is an Israeli propaganda outfit, you're still quoting the IDF and pretending its legit.

As I said before, if an innocent peaceful protester was shot, it's wrong. If he was shot as part of a violent group, it's not, no matter how old he is.

Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem all say Israel shot protesters during the Great March of Return as they continue to do today.

Gaza's "Great March of Return," six months on

Since the start of the protests, over 150 Palestinians have been killed in the demonstrations and at least 10,000 others have been injured.

www.amnesty.org

Yet you refuse to say that's wrong.

 

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Nice try, but you are the one justifying ...

It's amazing how much bullshit you make up to try and fit everything into your partisan agenda.

I was clear. If he was part of the group attacking and killing the soldier then it was a justified shoot. If he was away from the border then it wasn't. Your claim was that his age makes him automatically innocent.

Your PFLP group may have made their claim but based on who they are, I'd want some kind of outside confirmation. And it is pathetic that you automatically reject Israeli sources simply because they criticize your sources.


BTW. If you accept HRW and Amnesty investigations as proof against Israel, why don't you accept them as proof against Hamas or other Palestinian factions?

 

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Strange but I haven't seen a single protester outside my home of place of work. WTF are you talking about?

And I see you ignore that BLM is a general concept as well as dozens of individual organizations. Do you agree with everything put out by every single one of those organizations?

The way you also agree with IfNotNow and IJVCanada?
How about Breaking the Silence?
You can't march with them either.

It's amazing how much bullshit you make up to try and fit everything into your partisan agenda.

I was clear. If he was part of the group attacking and killing the soldier then it was a justified shoot. If he was away from the border then it wasn't. Your claim was that his age makes him automatically innocent.

Now that we've established that shooting this 13 year old child, who was 70-100 metres away from the prison walls at the time, is a crime, its time to admit that its terrorism.
The deliberate targeting of civilians.

Same as detailed by Amnesty during the Great March of Return, which means you know that this is also wrong. This is also terrorism.
While some protesters have engaged in some forms of violence including by burning tyres, flying incendiary kites or throwing stones and Molotov cocktails in the direction of Israeli soldiers, social media videos, as well as eyewitness testimonies gathered by Amnesty International, Palestinian and Israeli human rights groups show that Israeli soldiers shot unarmed protesters, bystanders, journalists and medical staff approximately 150-400m from the fence, where they did not pose any threat.

Gaza's "Great March of Return," six months on

Since the start of the protests, over 150 Palestinians have been killed in the demonstrations and at least 10,000 others have been injured.

www.amnesty.org

BTW. If you accept HRW and Amnesty investigations as proof against Israel, why don't you accept them as proof against Hamas or other Palestinian factions?

I accept them as proof on the same level, all should be properly investigated by the ICC and charges laid where warranted.

Israel's Colonisation of Palestine and the Pursuit of International Justice

While the opening of an International Criminal Court investigation into Israel's colonisation of Palestine serves as symbolic victory for Palestinians, the road to international justice also requires efforts from beyond the ICC.

thewire.in

 

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Nice try, but you are the one justifying shooting a 13 year old...

Obviously you can't read or are too obsessed creating your own reality. And do you have any sources other than your PFLP group?

I accept them as proof on the same level, all should be properly investigated by the ICC and charges laid where warranted.

Strange because you are adamant that Israel is evil without any ICC investigation but demand the ICC to condemn Hamas. Hmm.

Just like you have no interest in the occupations and quasi-apartheid like conditions in Northern Cyprus, Tibet, or Western Sahara.

 

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Obviously you can't read or are too obsessed creating your own reality. And do you have any sources other than your PFLP group?

I know, you don't trust Palestinians, only the IDF.
Other people with morals just say its wrong to shoot children.
This was the 82nd child killed by Israel this year.
But for you there is always a reason to shoot a child if they are Palestinian.

Strange because you are adamant that Israel is evil without any ICC investigation but demand the ICC to condemn Hamas. Hmm.

Just like you have no interest in the occupations and quasi-apartheid like conditions in Northern Cyprus, Tibet, or Western Sahara.

Israel isn't 'evil', its just apartheid. Its just a horribly racist and cruel government policy enacting half a century of illegal occupation and settler colonialism.
That comes from reports from the UN, HRW, B'tselem, Yesh Din and is supported by polls of Israelis, and how many thousands of resolutions from the UN against the occupation.

Your whataboutism is particularly lame, once you show me reports accusing those governments of apartheid by the same agencies, I'll stand behind you and say they should also be taken to the ICC.
Until then, you're backing apartheid, settler colonialism and horrific racist repression.

I watched a rabbi give a land acknowledgement this week. Truly the most cringeworthy thing I've heard in years. A couple of minutes of ranting about how everyone wants to kill the Jews followed by how horrible it is that a colonial state backed by a church would commit crimes to a native population. The amount of dancing involved to not self incriminate was shocking. Happy High Holy Week indeed.

 

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I know, you don't trust Palestinians, only the IDF.
Other people with morals just say its wrong to shoot children.
This was the 82nd child killed by Israel this year.
But for you there is always a reason to shoot a child if they are Palestinian.




Israel isn't 'evil', its just apartheid. Its just a horribly racist and cruel government policy enacting half a century of illegal occupation and settler colonialism.
That comes from reports from the UN, HRW, B'tselem, Yesh Din and is supported by polls of Israelis, and how many thousands of resolutions from the UN against the occupation.

Your whataboutism is particularly lame, once you show me reports accusing those governments of apartheid by the same agencies, I'll stand behind you and say they should also be taken to the ICC.
Until then, you're backing apartheid, settler colonialism and horrific racist repression.

I watched a rabbi give a land acknowledgement this week. Truly the most cringeworthy thing I've heard in years. A couple of minutes of ranting about how everyone wants to kill the Jews followed by how horrible it is that a colonial state backed by a church would commit crimes to a native population. The amount of dancing involved to not self incriminate was shocking. Happy High Holy Week indeed.

Frsnk you call Israel racist but yet you told me I wasn’t Canadian enough my English wasn’t good enough and I should leave the Canada after I told you i wasn’t from here, you are the racist and Terrorist supporter

 

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I know, you don't trust Palestinians, ...

Not the PFLP which Canada considers a designated terrorist entity. And sorry but 13 years olds in Canada are considered legally responsible for their actions. As I said several times, if a 13 years old is involved in an attack they will face consequences.

But sure, go on posting any claim that demonizes Israel while refusing to accept criticism of Hamas and repeatedly claiming it is racist to say Hamas are terrorists.

But yes:
Ethnic Greeks in Northern Cyprus can't vote in elections there and therefore have no representatives, and faced numerous rejections of the chance to have a high school for their youth. They face the actual definition of apartheid. 40% of Cypriots were displaced during the Turkish invasion.

You probably don't need to be told about Tibet but all the things you accuse Israel of are being done for real by China there. Settlers, ethnic cleansing, religious repression, arbitrary detentions, people disappearing, widespread torture, ....

Pretty much the same goes for Western Sahara.

But you can't blame Israelis/Jews for all of those so you're happy to ignore them in your fake quest for human rights.

 

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I watched a rabbi give a land acknowledgement this week. Truly the most cringeworthy thing I've heard in years. A couple of minutes of ranting about how everyone wants to kill the Jews followed by how horrible it is that a colonial state backed by a church would commit crimes to a native population. The amount of dancing involved to not self incriminate was shocking. Happy High Holy Week indeed.

Another of your outright anti-semitism instances where you want to blame this random Rabbi for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

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Not the PFLP which Canada considers a designated terrorist entity. And sorry but 13 years olds in Canada are considered legally responsible for their actions. As I said several times, if a 13 years old is involved in an attack they will face consequences.

The report was from DCI, not PFLP.
You used NGOMonitor which is an Israeli propaganda organization as a source for that slander.
Typical

But sure, go on posting any claim that demonizes Israel while refusing to accept criticism of Hamas and repeatedly claiming it is racist to say Hamas are terrorists.

Straw man....

Another of your outright anti-semitism instances where you want to blame this random Rabbi for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

That's a ridiculous comment, basketcase.
I'm not blaming that Rabbi for anything but a really morally blind attempt at a land acknowledgement.
Its pretty impossible to say your against settler colonialism in Canada while backing it in Israel, I'm sure he did a better job than you'd do, but its still so cringeworthy.
Its just your default trying to turn any criticism into a claim of antisemitism.

At least we got a bit further in this conversation.
You still think its ok to shoot children but at least you now say its a crime to shoot children and protesters who are 100 metres away from the prison walls. And no, they aren't borders.
The reports from the Great March of Return, where Israel shot thousands of children, women, medics and journalists who were all 100 metres away from the wall are now at the ICC.

 

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The report was from DCI, not PFLP.
You used NGOMonitor which is an Israeli propaganda organization as a source for that slander.
Typical


Straw man....



That's a ridiculous comment, basketcase.
I'm not blaming that Rabbi for anything but a really morally blind attempt at a land acknowledgement.
Its pretty impossible to say your against settler colonialism in Canada while backing it in Israel, I'm sure he did a better job than you'd do, but its still so cringeworthy.
Its just your default trying to turn any criticism into a claim of antisemitism.

At least we got a bit further in this conversation.
You still think its ok to shoot children but at least you now say its a crime to shoot children and protesters who are 100 metres away from the prison walls. And no, they aren't borders.
The reports from the Great March of Return, where Israel shot thousands of children, women, medics and journalists who were all 100 metres away from the wall are now at the ICC.

Frank you support Terrorists which are criminal groups as listed by multiple countries

you use terrorist names for protest more Terrorists propaganda they are trying to rush countries border by force to kill the citizens inside Israel is permitted to defend its borders like any other country


Stop supporting Terrorists

 

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Terrorists ...terrorist ... Terrorists....Israel is permitted to defend its borders like any other country

...Terrorists

Borders?
Israel's settler colonialism doesn't have any borders, just more land they are taking by force over the years to rule through apartheid.
The proof?
Not one single Israeli supporter here can supply a map that they will say shows Israel's borders.

 

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Borders?
Israel's settler colonialism doesn't have any borders, just more land they are taking by force over the years to rule through apartheid.
The proof?
Not one single Israeli supporter here can supply a map that they will say shows Israel's borders.

You keep claiming you help me on ignore yet you respond which is it? You lie about that you lie about everything else and You support Terrorists advocate for them make excuses for them and publish their propaganda

 

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...You lie .. you lie ...Terrorists ...propaganda

You're on ignore because you're a practitioner of cancel culture who hurls insults and can't even answer basic questions.
I'll open up your posts when I want, and if I want a laugh.
You claimed the IDF was protecting borders but you can't even tell anyone where they are.
All you back is racist, apartheid, settler colonialism and shooting civilians, aka 'terrorism'.

 

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You're on ignore because you're a practitioner of cancel culture who hurls insults and can't even answer basic questions.
I'll open up your posts when I want, and if I want a laugh.
You claimed the IDF was protecting borders but you can't even tell anyone where they are.
All you back is racist, apartheid, settler colonialism and shooting civilians, aka 'terrorism'.

your the on who refuses to answer questions anyone here can see in the past I have repeated the same question to you for 3 pages you refused to answer it

I hurl insults? it was YOU who was banned several times for insults how many handles have you come back with?
your a racist who was banned for telling me I was not Canadian enough and should leave Canada
YOU were banned for threatening me with physical violence

you support terrorists you defend them attempt to justify their actions and repost their propaganda

FYI Hamas whom you support, IS listed as a terror group in Canada the US the EU Japan Australia and Israel you can continue to deny it but its you who are wrong not most of the world

 

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your the on who refuses to answer questions anyone here can see in the past I have repeated the same question to you for 3 pages you refused to answer it

I hurl insults? it was YOU who was banned several times for insults how many handles have you come back with?
your a racist who was banned for telling me I was not Canadian enough and should leave Canada
YOU were banned for threatening me with physical violence

you support terrorists you defend them attempt to justify their actions and repost their propaganda

FYI Hamas whom you support, IS listed as a terror group in Canada the US the EU Japan Australia and Israel you can continue to deny it but its you who are wrong not most of the world

Still can't tell me where the borders are?
So all we get is this bile?

 

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Still can't tell me where the borders are?
So all we get is this bile?

its the truth

you cant stand be called out on it

you support terrorists

 

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its the truth

you cant stand be called out on it

you support terrorists

Why can't you say where the borders to Israel and Palestine lie?
How can you justify shooting children and civilians, which is actual terrorism, when you can't even say what they were defending?

Its because you support killing and stealing the land of a people you think is inferior, isn't it?

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