Vaccine passport is not a big deal, right? The real reason: Cashless society soon, as it start in Australia.

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What do you think will happen if covid doesn't go away in 6 months, will they ask for another booster?
If the ICUs are filling up with people who've had two shots and a third shot will boost your immune system and prevent people from getting really sick, then it's likely they'll want people to get a third shot. Since the original vaccine was designed for the Alpha variant, it makes sense to have a third (booster) that's specifically designed to target the Delta variant. It's not only the logical thing to do, it's the smart thing to do.
 

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Some thoughts on the Vaccine Passports you may not have considered.
Vaccine passports are no big deal right? You've had both your shots, so not really going to affect your life. Now think about how you are going to feel 6 months from your last shot when your shiny green passport suddenly turns orange?
What's this? "You are required to get your booster shot. You are also due for your annual flu shot. You have 2 weeks to book your appointment, or your orange passport will turn to white, and your 'privilege' of working or entering any pubic buildings will be revoked.”
“Huh… I wasn’t going to get a third shot, and I've never bothered to get a flu shot before, but what the hell, I’ve gone this far and I'm there anyways, so no big deal.”
6 months later, orange again... "Along with your boosters and annuals, we will now be requiring yearly blood work. Just a standard tox screen and general health check to keep you healthy and those around you. For public safety, we will be keeping your DNA on file. You have 2 weeks to click this link and book your appointment.”
Now ask yourself... Are you ok with the government having compete ownership of your health, your DNA, your kids, and making these decisions for you?
Are you ok with your freedoms being taken away if you don't comply with their sense of what is "in the public's best interest"? Maybe you aren’t ok with it this moment, but they will slowly “educate you” with world-class marketing and fear that you are ok with it.
Now ask yourself this....
How much would a corporation pay to corrupt a politician into making decisions to add requirements to this system that would net them hundreds of billions of dollars? Pharma forcing every citizen to buy doses, health insurance companies getting access to your DNA info, charging more in “extra premiums”, etc, etc. I mean, every politician you know is a fine, moral, incorruptible, human being, right?
Last thought to consider…
If you think that the government is spending billions to develop this passport technology for a "temporary" solution, ask yourself this simple question. “Why don't they just get you to show your vaccine card? I mean, it's just till January, right?”
They need a way to revoke access, and to add additional requirements at a moments notice. A government doesn’t offer up, to quote Justin Trudeau, “A billion dollars to fund the development of vaccine passports system” just to use it once.
Whether you have a "green" passport or not, refuse to show it. Every time you show it, you are giving some future government permission to control your actions. It’s not just “This one event” this “One concert” “This one game”, this is the world you are going to leave behind for your kids.
The power of the passport system is in the public's acceptance of it. You may agree with the current government's motivations, but will you agree with the next one?The next one is the cashless society where your life worth nothing. That's the total control. Then our leaders will live in a high class society. Judas got his 30 silver coins, right? Forget voting, forget your rights, your personal life, forget personal belongings....etc Everything what you have, will be the government's property included you.. This will become worster than the book 1984.Welcome to the New World!
This is the same garbage I've seen posted, word for word by anti-vaxxers on FB, Instagram etc.

Sometimes when somebody doesn't bother to refute something it's because it is so far beyond the realm of reasonable that it's pointless to. It's like those Jebus cultists who claim the bible is a book of good without error and contradiction. They are so far into reality denial that even if you point out example after example of evil, error and contradiction, they never budge.

Also complaining that people don't have any evidence against your words, when you provide 0 evidence for them is well, Ironic. If you don't see the problem here, that's a problem. You talk about NSW but it says absolutely nothing about anything but a move towards cashless which we have been doing for a while. There is no presented link between vaccine passports because they want Cashless [your image present another reason].

I am an Attack Helicopter.
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Oh you think I am crazy, well you didn't provide any evidence to suggest that I am not an Attack Helicopter so there. I mean are you stupid.

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

There are a lot of times when both sides can at least occasionally make reasonable points, I've yet to see it from the pro death crew here on Terb, or on various comment sections or people I know in real life. When you come across as a flat earther, expect to be treated as one.
^^^^^ Bravo. You said it best. 100%
 

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If the ICUs are filling up with people who've had two shots and a third shot will boost your immune system and prevent people from getting really sick, then it's likely they'll want people to get a third shot. Since the original vaccine was designed for the Alpha variant, it makes sense to have a third (booster) that's specifically designed to target the Delta variant. It's not only the logical thing to do, it's the smart thing to do.
And the advertised that it will happen. It is not like boosters have been a secret and it is not like we don’t already get boosters from child vaccines anyways. It’s like every 10years or something like that.


This is the same garbage I've seen posted, word for word by anti-vaxxers on FB, Instagram etc.
So it is a copy and paste job? That figures.
 
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And the advertised thing that will happen. It is not like boosters have been a secret and it is not like we don’t already get boosters from child vaccines anyways. It’s like every 10years or something like that.
Exactly. A blood test determined I was no longer immune to Measles. It had warn off. Not wanting to get Measles, I got another MMR shot.


So it is a copy and paste job? That figures.
No surprise there, eh? I just checked and the one I've seen posted many times ends with the sentence "The power of the passport system is in the public's acceptance of it. You may agree with the current government's motivations, but will you agree with the next one?"

It looks like IRIS added the following paragraph. "The next one is the cashless society where your life worth nothing. That's the total control. Then our leaders will live in a high class society. Judas got his 30 silver coins, right? Forget voting, forget your rights, your personal life, forget personal belongings....etc Everything what you have, will be the government's property included you.. This will become worster than the book 1984.Welcome to the New World!"

You can tell because she failed to put a space after the ? and the next sentence. That, and she said "worster". ;)
 
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I just don't like being told what to do. Now it seems that many people have a very specific interest in telling me what to do.
Society has ALWAYS had an interest in telling YOU and I what to do. Regulations are put in place to keep us all safe from each other. Otherwise I would have had my own personal oil refinery in my back yard by now regardless of what my neighbors think.

We've now come to a point where a minor inconvenience is equated as a massive assault on our rights and freedoms. We are so fucking spoiled and entitled that we have no clue what real assaults of our rights and freedoms are. Everyone wants the benefits of living in a civilized society but many of you don't want the responsibility that comes with it.
 

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When you guys don't have any evidence against these words, you try to suggest we are fool and conspiracy theorist. ...
Strange that people expect evidence before accepting theories about an all-powerful worldwide plot.
 
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Iris should have link the source instead of pretending of writing this.
So how can coming across as a paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist be any worse. Not citing your sources.
Kinda surprised she didn't delete this thread or ask someone to delete it. Pretty sure a thread starter can do that.
Does she think she comes off well in this thread?
 

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We already know vaccine passports are coming.
A year ago anyone that said there would be vaccine passports in the future was considered a conspiracy theorist.

You didn't believe it had any chance of happening a year ago.
 

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A year ago anyone that said there would be vaccine passports in the future was considered a conspiracy theorist.

You didn't believe it had any chance of happening a year ago.
I already have and have had a vaccine pass card since birth. I needed it for school.

Sorry but I don’t recall saying I didn’t believe it had a chance of happening. please find me a quote of saying that last year.

But if some didn’t believe a year ago, we have known for a few months now so what I said still holds true. We have known for a while they are coming. And I’m the context of what Iris wrote and my response to her, I was not addressing the passports but all the shit she said extra.
 

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Now don't be going and making fun of your mama like that. I'm sure she's a nice woman, she raised such a fine upstanding son 😏
Come on man, that's all you have?? Sheesh, get a Pfizer shot so you can up your game son.
 

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A year ago anyone that said there would be vaccine passports in the future was considered a conspiracy theorist.

You didn't believe it had any chance of happening a year ago.
As soon as the vaccine was introduced anyone with an ounce of brain matter knew rules would eventually be put in to force the hand of the dumbasses.
 

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I just don't like being told what to do. Now it seems that many people have a very specific interest in telling me what to do.
Just don’t exhale around other people and you can do what we you want
 
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Strange that people expect evidence before accepting theories about an all-powerful worldwide plot.
Yes, strange. In science, first the theory is developed, and evidence to support it come much later. A theory is a valid theory until proven false. it is, indeed, strange, that people will refuse a theory without an evidence against it instead of accepting it as one of the possible alternatives until new evidence arise.
 

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A year ago anyone that said there would be vaccine passports in the future was considered a conspiracy theorist.

You didn't believe it had any chance of happening a year ago.
I remember, people saying that COVID came form a lab was labelled as conspiracy theorists too.
 
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A year ago anyone that said there would be vaccine passports in the future was considered a conspiracy theorist.

You didn't believe it had any chance of happening a year ago.
Do you see a difference between doubting that Ford would introduce a passport and believing in a worldwide plot?
 

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Yes, strange. In science, first the theory is developed, and evidence to support it come much later. A theory is a valid theory until proven false. it is, indeed, strange, that people will refuse a theory without an evidence against it instead of accepting it as one of the possible alternatives until new evidence arise.
Not true at all.

In common parlance, a hypothesis is proposed based on background research. The hypothesis is then tested and the evidence evaluated. That evidence may lead to a conclusion. If the conclusion holds up to repeated testing then it could be could be considered a theory. At that point people may still look for exceptions or try to develop a theory that better explains the evidence but in a practical sense, a scientific theory is the endpoint, not the start.

I know that in regular use, a theory is any half-assed thought that someone has but that's not what it means in science.
 
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