Vaccine passport is not a big deal, right? The real reason: Cashless society soon, as it start in Australia.

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Some thoughts on the Vaccine Passports you may not have considered.
Vaccine passports are no big deal right? You've had both your shots, so not really going to affect your life. Now think about how you are going to feel 6 months from your last shot when your shiny green passport suddenly turns orange?
What's this? "You are required to get your booster shot. You are also due for your annual flu shot. You have 2 weeks to book your appointment, or your orange passport will turn to white, and your 'privilege' of working or entering any pubic buildings will be revoked.”
“Huh… I wasn’t going to get a third shot, and I've never bothered to get a flu shot before, but what the hell, I’ve gone this far and I'm there anyways, so no big deal.”
6 months later, orange again... "Along with your boosters and annuals, we will now be requiring yearly blood work. Just a standard tox screen and general health check to keep you healthy and those around you. For public safety, we will be keeping your DNA on file. You have 2 weeks to click this link and book your appointment.”
Now ask yourself... Are you ok with the government having compete ownership of your health, your DNA, your kids, and making these decisions for you?
Are you ok with your freedoms being taken away if you don't comply with their sense of what is "in the public's best interest"? Maybe you aren’t ok with it this moment, but they will slowly “educate you” with world-class marketing and fear that you are ok with it.
Now ask yourself this....
How much would a corporation pay to corrupt a politician into making decisions to add requirements to this system that would net them hundreds of billions of dollars? Pharma forcing every citizen to buy doses, health insurance companies getting access to your DNA info, charging more in “extra premiums”, etc, etc. I mean, every politician you know is a fine, moral, incorruptible, human being, right?
Last thought to consider…
If you think that the government is spending billions to develop this passport technology for a "temporary" solution, ask yourself this simple question. “Why don't they just get you to show your vaccine card? I mean, it's just till January, right?”
They need a way to revoke access, and to add additional requirements at a moments notice. A government doesn’t offer up, to quote Justin Trudeau, “A billion dollars to fund the development of vaccine passports system” just to use it once.
Whether you have a "green" passport or not, refuse to show it. Every time you show it, you are giving some future government permission to control your actions. It’s not just “This one event” this “One concert” “This one game”, this is the world you are going to leave behind for your kids.
The power of the passport system is in the public's acceptance of it. You may agree with the current government's motivations, but will you agree with the next one?The next one is the cashless society where your life worth nothing. That's the total control. Then our leaders will live in a high class society. Judas got his 30 silver coins, right? Forget voting, forget your rights, your personal life, forget personal belongings....etc Everything what you have, will be the government's property included you.. This will become worster than the book 1984.Welcome to the New World!
 

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When you guys don't have any evidence against these words, you try to suggest we are fool and conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately, it's happening right now in front of us, you just don't want to understand on purpose. Other theory: You are really that stupid, but I highly doubt it .
 

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When you guys don't have any evidence against these words, you try to suggest we are fool and conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately, it's happening right now in front of us, you just don't want to understand on purpose. Other theory: You are really that stupid, but I highly doubt it .
Sometimes when somebody doesn't bother to refute something it's because it is so far beyond the realm of reasonable that it's pointless to. It's like those Jebus cultists who claim the bible is a book of good without error and contradiction. They are so far into reality denial that even if you point out example after example of evil, error and contradiction, they never budge.

Also complaining that people don't have any evidence against your words, when you provide 0 evidence for them is well, Ironic. If you don't see the problem here, that's a problem. You talk about NSW but it says absolutely nothing about anything but a move towards cashless which we have been doing for a while. There is no presented link between vaccine passports because they want Cashless [your image present another reason].

I am an Attack Helicopter.
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Oh you think I am crazy, well you didn't provide any evidence to suggest that I am not an Attack Helicopter so there. I mean are you stupid.

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

There are a lot of times when both sides can at least occasionally make reasonable points, I've yet to see it from the pro death crew here on Terb, or on various comment sections or people I know in real life. When you come across as a flat earther, expect to be treated as one.
 

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When you guys don't have any evidence against these words, you try to suggest we are fool and conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately, it's happening right now in front of us, you just don't want to understand on purpose. Other theory: You are really that stupid, but I highly doubt it .
couldnt agree more. Its the “conspiracy theorists” who have been spot on at virtually every turn.
 

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Some thoughts on the Vaccine Passports you may not have considered.
Vaccine passports are no big deal right? You've had both your shots, so not really going to affect your life. Now think about how you are going to feel 6 months from your last shot when your shiny green passport suddenly turns orange?
What's this? "You are required to get your booster shot. You are also due for your annual flu shot. You have 2 weeks to book your appointment, or your orange passport will turn to white, and your 'privilege' of working or entering any pubic buildings will be revoked.”
“Huh… I wasn’t going to get a third shot, and I've never bothered to get a flu shot before, but what the hell, I’ve gone this far and I'm there anyways, so no big deal.”
6 months later, orange again... "Along with your boosters and annuals, we will now be requiring yearly blood work. Just a standard tox screen and general health check to keep you healthy and those around you. For public safety, we will be keeping your DNA on file. You have 2 weeks to click this link and book your appointment.”
Now ask yourself... Are you ok with the government having compete ownership of your health, your DNA, your kids, and making these decisions for you?
Are you ok with your freedoms being taken away if you don't comply with their sense of what is "in the public's best interest"? Maybe you aren’t ok with it this moment, but they will slowly “educate you” with world-class marketing and fear that you are ok with it.
Now ask yourself this....
How much would a corporation pay to corrupt a politician into making decisions to add requirements to this system that would net them hundreds of billions of dollars? Pharma forcing every citizen to buy doses, health insurance companies getting access to your DNA info, charging more in “extra premiums”, etc, etc. I mean, every politician you know is a fine, moral, incorruptible, human being, right?
Last thought to consider…
If you think that the government is spending billions to develop this passport technology for a "temporary" solution, ask yourself this simple question. “Why don't they just get you to show your vaccine card? I mean, it's just till January, right?”
They need a way to revoke access, and to add additional requirements at a moments notice. A government doesn’t offer up, to quote Justin Trudeau, “A billion dollars to fund the development of vaccine passports system” just to use it once.
Whether you have a "green" passport or not, refuse to show it. Every time you show it, you are giving some future government permission to control your actions. It’s not just “This one event” this “One concert” “This one game”, this is the world you are going to leave behind for your kids.
The power of the passport system is in the public's acceptance of it. You may agree with the current government's motivations, but will you agree with the next one?The next one is the cashless society where your life worth nothing. That's the total control. Then our leaders will live in a high class society. Judas got his 30 silver coins, right? Forget voting, forget your rights, your personal life, forget personal belongings....etc Everything what you have, will be the government's property included you.. This will become worster than the book 1984.Welcome to the New World!
Are you against taking a Covid vaccine?
 

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couldnt agree more. Its the “conspiracy theorists” who have been spot on at virtually every turn.
That's the funnel effect. If you apply 2020 hindsight and do careful research you can always go back and find somebody who predicted something correctly. It's down at the small end of the funnel and the thousands of predictions that didn't turn out just get ignored. No matter what turns out to be the scientific origin of covid-19 for example, somebody will have predicted it accurately. Now what was your point again?...
 

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Now don't be going and making fun of your mama like that. I'm sure she's a nice woman, she raised such a fine upstanding son 😏
 

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When you guys don't have any evidence against these words, you try to suggest we are fool and conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately, it's happening right now in front of us, you just don't want to understand on purpose. Other theory: You are really that stupid, but I highly doubt it .
You don’t have any evidence that any of the things you suggested are going to happen.

Hell - you have come with some colour coded system that is not even in play yet.

You started the thread. You want people to hear and listen to what you are saying you need to first bring the proof yourself
 

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You don’t have any evidence that any of the things you suggested are going to happen.

Hell - you have come with some colour coded system that is not even in play yet.

You started the thread. You want people to hear and listen to what you are saying you need to first bring the proof yourself
I think you are in a bit of denial here. While I do agree that some things posted by OP are a bit dramatizing and made up for that purpose but we are headed towards vaccine passport/certificate system or whatever you what to call it, there is no denying that. As for 6 month time frame this is exactly what they started doing in Israel as their studies indicated that protection (note nobody talks of immunity anymore as there is none) lasted 6 month. Many major newspapers, including NationalPost reported on it. Some sources for you:


Some quotes (from NP article):
Israeli public health officials, working in conjunction with Pfizer has determined that after six months or so, the effectiveness of the vaccine wanes
If one wishes to participate in public activities, like fitness centres, indoor dining and cultural events, then a “green pass” is required. And to get one of those a third vaccine shot — as soon as one is eligible (by age) — is mandatory.
Note that they call the system green pass, which is probably where the OP took her inspiration from.

Now do you want to tell me that THAT is not happening and I am dreaming this up?

What do you think will happen if covid doesn't go away in 6 months, will they ask for another booster?
 

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I think you are in a bit of denial here. While I do agree that some things posted by OP are a bit dramatizing and made up for that purpose but we are headed towards vaccine passport/certificate system or whatever you what to call it, there is no denying that. As for 6 month time frame this is exactly what they started doing in Israel as their studies indicated that protection (note nobody talks of immunity anymore as there is none) lasted 6 month. Many major newspapers, including NationalPost reported on it. Some sources for you:


Some quotes (from NP article):



Note that they call the system green pass, which is probably where the OP took her inspiration from.

Now do you want to tell me that THAT is not happening and I am dreaming this up?

What do you think will happen if covid doesn't go away in 6 months, will they ask for another booster?
Ummmm considering all the news about vaccine passports, I didn’t think anyone was daft enough to think I was disputing those specifically. I was talking about all the shit she added to it. We already know vaccine passports are coming. We have known this. I’m calling the rest of the over dramatized BS for what it is.

And we already know and knew boosters are coming. Have you been under a rock? LOL
 

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Ummmm considering all the news about vaccine passports, I didn’t think anyone was daft enough to think I was disputing those specifically. I was talking about all the shit she added to it. We already know vaccine passports are coming. We have known this. I’m calling the rest of the over dramatized BS for what it is.

And we already know and knew boosters are coming. Have you been under a rock? LOL
You said there is no evidence to any of what OP said, particularly of color coded system, you said
You don’t have any evidence that any of the things you suggested are going to happen. Hell - you have come with some colour coded system that is not even in play yet
I simply gave it to you, it looks like you have been under a rock :)
 

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You said there is no evidence to any of what OP said, particularly of color coded system, you said I simply gave it to you, it looks like you have been under a rock :)
Meaning all the shit she spewed on about AFTER the vaccine passports and boosters. it is a big jump from vaccine passports to all the other shit said.

And There is no coloured coded system. We don’t even have the system out yet so there can’t be a colour coded system.

Just think about that for a second….

LMAO
 

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Meaning all the shit she spewed on about AFTER the vaccine passports and boosters. it is a big jump from vaccine passports to all the other shit said.

And There is no coloured coded system. We don’t even have the system out yet so there can’t be a colour coded system.

Just think about that for a second….

LMAO
Did you have your morning coffee yet? There is one in Israel, millions of people are participating in it and witness to it. The one implemented here may not be called a "green pass" but that's not the point, the system is coming you said it yourself a couple of posts ago
We already know vaccine passports are coming
haha :) She did make some extreme hypothetical assertions afterwards but hey a year and a half ago every politician said we are never doing vaccine passports because it violates our freedoms yet here we are waiting for it to be implemented. I can see how that can take people over the edge and make them assume the worst.
 

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Did you have your morning coffee yet? There is one in Israel, millions of people are participating in it and witness to it. The one implemented here may not be called a "green pass" but that's not the point, the system is coming you said it yourself a couple of posts ago haha :) She did make some extreme hypothetical assertions afterwards but hey a year and a half ago every politician said we are never doing vaccine passports because it violates our freedoms yet here we are waiting for it to be implemented. I can see how that can take people over the edge and make them assume the worst.
Exactly. She went extreme, which anyone with half a brain would know THAT is what I was talking about. Why would I dispute us having a vaccine passport if it has been announced for Sept 22???? Like come on dude. Think common sense here.


As for the colour coded system - WE, as in Canadians, don’t have a system yet so it can’t be colour coded. Why am I concerned about Israel? I don’t give a shit about Israel. Plus she never mentions Israel. She mentions cash and Australia in the title though but those don’t seem to actually be in her post. So why again do I care about anybody else but Canadians?

Show me the Canadian coded system. Or show me Israel system with orange and white cards????? You can’t. Because it does not exist. Is a passport coming? Yes. Already said that. I questioned her on her made up colour code system which you even posted was “inspired” so what are you fighting me about exactly?
 
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