Toronto ranked "2nd safest city in the world" in study

Adam_hadam

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Wow - what does that say about the rest of the world because Toronto is not all that safe in my opinion.
YYZ has good and not so good hoods. Also safety is relative, I don't expect my 93 year old aunt to be hanging out at Jane and Woolner at 3am on a Saturday night.
 

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This isn't the early 90's anymore, Toronto is super safe now. We have a 24 hour news cycle and social media that hypes up every issue.

In terms of crime rate and homicide rate as of 2020, Toronto is not even top 10 in terms of Canadian cities. I've posted this info so many times on thus board.
 
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Toronto is full of drugged out folks roaming the streets, and not only at nighttime, though they're more evident then when the regular masses have called it quits. I had a guy tail me downtown for about 15 minutes, shouting incoherent curses. Didn't scare me, as he was so fucked up he could barely walk, but made me think if I were a woman or a child, how scared shitless I would be. A week later, I saw a guy steal a backpack from a young woman (student?) and take off running while she shouted at him. And there are several streets I've walked down late at night that made even me uncomfortable.

To a certain extent, urban areas are less safe in general, so it's relative, but I have a hard time believing Toronto is even top 10 in the world, unless we're really dialing up the population criteria for assessment.
 

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Toronto is full of drugged out folks roaming the streets, and not only at nighttime, though they're more evident then when the regular masses have called it quits. I had a guy tail me downtown for about 15 minutes, shouting incoherent curses. Didn't scare me, as he was so fucked up he could barely walk, but made me think if I were a woman or a child, how scared shitless I would be. A week later, I saw a guy steal a backpack from a young woman (student?) and take off running while she shouted at him. And there are several streets I've walked down late at night that made even me uncomfortable.

To a certain extent, urban areas are less safe in general, so it's relative, but I have a hard time believing Toronto is even top 10 in the world, unless we're really dialing up the population criteria for assessment.
None of those cases would be reported to the police like in the past so statistics aren’t fully accurate.
 

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You guys are not women. We have a whole different level of what safe is.

I don’t think Toronto is the safest of cities. So if they are second in the world, that doesn’t make me feel good about the world.

That is my opinion.
The feeling of being unsafe has little if any relationship to actually being unsafe.

While women feel unsafe, men feel very safe. The data around safety is the exact opposite. Women are the most protected and safest in terms of all crime with the exception of sexual assault, where women are 2 times as likely to be sexually assaulted as men. However, men are 3 times more likely to be murdered, assaulted, or robbed.( sexual assault data does not include incidents in jails whee the incidents are far higher for boys and men).

We can thank the media for a very misleading portrayal of who is most at risk of victimization.
 

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The feeling of being unsafe has little if any relationship to actually being unsafe.

While women feel unsafe, men feel very safe. The data around safety is the exact opposite. Women are the most protected and safest in terms of all crime with the exception of sexual assault, where women are 2 times as likely to be sexually assaulted as men. However, men are 3 times more likely to be murdered, assaulted, or robbed.( sexual assault data does not include incidents in jails whee the incidents are far higher for boys and men).

We can thank the media for a very misleading portrayal of who is most at risk of victimization.

Meh - Your opinion.

Having had a break and enter in my home, having been raped, robbed etc. I will stick with my own thoughts and feelings on this topic, thanks.
 
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Toronto is full of drugged out folks roaming the streets, and not only at nighttime, though they're more evident then when the regular masses have called it quits. I had a guy tail me downtown for about 15 minutes, shouting incoherent curses. Didn't scare me, as he was so fucked up he could barely walk, but made me think if I were a woman or a child, how scared shitless I would be. A week later, I saw a guy steal a backpack from a young woman (student?) and take off running while she shouted at him. And there are several streets I've walked down late at night that made even me uncomfortable.

To a certain extent, urban areas are less safe in general, so it's relative, but I have a hard time believing Toronto is even top 10 in the world, unless we're really dialing up the population criteria for assessment.
Drug and alcohol abuse has gone down. Things have improved quite a bit in terms of crime.
 

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What are you basing that on?
Everything I can find shows increasing deaths due to substance abuse, be it Toronto, Ontario or Canada-wide.
That just means we have stronger drugs now. We're in an anomaly stage now due to the pandemic.

Covid-19 has caused usage rates to spike, which I predict will be temporary, but alcohol usage rates have dropped in Canada, UK, and Australia. Global rates are a different story.

Opioid deaths started falling in Canada, until the pandemic came.
 
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If this study were 5+ years ago I'd agree with it. But Toronto has become much less safe since Tory took office in 2015. Violent crimes are up. There are more drug addicts and transients roaming the streets. The infrastructure is poorer, despite huge amounts of money being invested in roads, sidewalks, bridges, public transit etc.

But I would say overall compared to its peers in North America Toronto is still relatively safe.
 
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Toronto is safer than Tokyo, something doesn't add up...
 
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