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Celina Caesar-Chavannes gives candid account of Trudeau, tokenism

The Oracle

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece

Only to be a fly on the wall when she called Justin a motherf$cker, lol.

What a condescending arrogant privileged man he is........
 

Charlemagne

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Do the Cons have any Black MP's lol? I highly doubt they expect any of their black candidates are going to win.

Don Meredith was the token right wing senator appointed by Mr. Harper, but he got caught with his pants down on Webcam. Not to mention he allegedly was proud enough to show off his pecker to his female employees. Did I mention that he was also a family values pastor? I think his wife stayed after all the bullshit though.

With that being said, politics is largely about identity politics.
 
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The Oracle

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Do the Cons have any Black MP's lol? I highly doubt they expect any of their black candidates are going to win.

Don Meredith was the token right wing senator appointed by Mr. Harper, but he got caught with his pants down on Webcam. Not to mention he allegedly was proud enough to show off his pecker to his female employees. Did I mention that he was also a family values pastor? I think his wife stayed after all the bullshit though.

With that being said, politics is largely about identity politics.
So Justin's handling of her was okay with you eh?............

Given your agenda on here I would have thought the opposite.............You are kind of a sell out after all.
 

JohnLarue

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Do the Cons have any Black MP's lol? I highly doubt they expect any of their black candidates are going to win.
Dr. Leslyn Lewis
She is a very sharp lady
Made a very impressive showing in the party leadership race

She is running in Haldimand-Norfolk, a seat held by the conservatives since 2004

With that being said, politics is largely about identity politics.
Only for the sheep
Rational people focus on policy and values , things like integrity, responsibility... intelligence
 

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Do the Cons have any Black MP's lol? I highly doubt they expect any of their black candidates are going to win.

Don Meredith was the token right wing senator appointed by Mr. Harper, but he got caught with his pants down on Webcam. Not to mention he allegedly was proud enough to show off his pecker to his female employees. Did I mention that he was also a family values pastor? I think his wife stayed after all the bullshit though.

With that being said, politics is largely about identity politics.
and the pm grouped a woman and then said "she experienced it differently"
 

mandrill

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Only to be a fly on the wall when she called Justin a motherf$cker, lol.

What a condescending arrogant privileged man he is........
So let me understand this. Rookie backbencher doesn't get enough attention from the power brokers in the party, stages public clashes, still doesn't get enough attention, resigns, gets 5 minutes on the National which she uses to attack the power figures and to try and get more attention.

This one is REALLY a winner, Orry. This is even better than the photo of the Native Canadian chief making bunny ears behind Justin's head.

Justin is living rent free in YOUR head at this point.
 

Leimonis

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Rational people focus on policy and values , things like integrity, responsibility... intelligence
yep that's how Biden got elected
 

mandrill

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Trump was pretty strong in all 3 areas, John. That's a good call on your part. As always.

 
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silentkisser

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Do the Cons have any Black MP's lol? I highly doubt they expect any of their black candidates are going to win.

Don Meredith was the token right wing senator appointed by Mr. Harper, but he got caught with his pants down on Webcam. Not to mention he allegedly was proud enough to show off his pecker to his female employees. Did I mention that he was also a family values pastor? I think his wife stayed after all the bullshit though.

With that being said, politics is largely about identity politics.
I really don't think we should always return criticism with whataboutism. Sure, the PC could be/are hypocritical regarding this, but let's focus on the issue her. Did Trudeau make her a Parliamentary Secretary specifically for the optics of having a female POC in the role? Is sort of sounds like it.

Now, we're getting her side of the story, so there are obvious things that just might be her POV. But, if she really only had three official trips that only involved dealing with black people, that does sound like tokenism.

As I've said before, I'm a Liberal supporter, but Trudeau is...well...annoying and the I find the ethical lapses very problematic. I like the idea of putting more women into positions of power in the government, more minorities. I think that is reflective of Canada, and would be great for them to smash any glass ceilings. But to promote them just for show is infuriating. Lord knows I've worked with some incredibly competent, driven women who were much better than their male counterparts, yet they didn't get the promotion.
 
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silentkisser

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So let me understand this. Rookie backbencher doesn't get enough attention from the power brokers in the party, stages public clashes, still doesn't get enough attention, resigns, gets 5 minutes on the National which she uses to attack the power figures and to try and get more attention.

This one is REALLY a winner, Orry. This is even better than the photo of the Native Canadian chief making bunny ears behind Justin's head.

Justin is living rent free in YOUR head at this point.
I'll argue against this. While she was a rookie, she wasn't a backbencher. Being a parliamentary secretary to the PM is a big fucking deal. I can imagine her sitting in cabinet meetings and her ideas being ignored. If it is as she says, then she was surly a token for Trudeau to look like he had strong women and POC in cabinet. But, if he ignored them or marginalized them, what's the point? Is Trudeau a hypocrite? Maybe. It feels like he is the more this shit comes out.
 

Valcazar

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My read on this pretty much the same as silentkisser here.
 

JohnLarue

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Trump was pretty strong in all 3 areas, John. That's a good call on your part. As always.
Pretty sad time for Canadian liberals when they can not defend their leaders values (integrity, responsibility... intelligence) and have to resort to importing a villain

If you had been paying attention, I have made my position on Trump quite clear.
He is a mean spirited and vindictive egomaniac who was never suited for the position.

Donald Trump will not be on the Sept 20 ballot, so you goto deflection does not apply
 

JohnLarue

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yep that's how Biden got elected
Neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump are on the Sept 20 ballot, so your point is moot

But it is comical as Joe Biden show has not gone well so far and each of the values (integrity, responsibility... intelligence) are in question for sleepy Joe
 

Leimonis

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Neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump are on the Sept 20 ballot, so your point is moot

But it is comical as Joe Biden show has not gone well so far and each of the values (integrity, responsibility... intelligence) are in question for sleepy Joe
what is comical is that your main guy is a conman POS and a majority of his supporters = your people are deplorables and you are trying to get on a high horse even though your and yours' horse is not high enough to pull a manure cart.
 

JohnLarue

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what is comical is that your main guy is a conman POS and a majority of his supporters = your people are deplorables and you are trying to get on a high horse even though your and yours' horse is not high enough to pull a manure cart.
Not one piece of information/ fact from you
Just vile insults and idiotic blithering

what was it you wanted to be when you grow up ?

Odd how the conservatives have narrowed the gap as the liberals stumble in the oh so critical launch of the campaign.
The liberals can not even bring up the words integrity, responsibility... intelligence and they cannot promote their performance, (abysmal)
All they can do is promise more spending we can not afford.

Canadians are starting to recognize how shallow fake and just plain stupid Justin Trudeau is
 
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