Hypothetical question : If I tripled your money for you, how much should you give me. ( compensation )

[y2kmark]

One of my business classes did an experiment:

You and a partner are given $10K to split. You have to propose the split but if the partner rejects the proposed split, you both get nothing.

Most people proposed a 50-50 split. Some a 60-40 split. I had a weak partner and proposed a 80-20 split which was accepted. I would not have tried that with a stronger, more principled partner.

Moral: Know who you are getting into business with. Weak or strong, principled or open, etc. Yes, I’m an ass but it was hypothetical and I did it to prove a point.

Hypotheticals don't often mean much when it comes down to actual money...

 

[Jenesis]

If you had $10K and with my advice you turned it into $30K what would be a fair compensation.

Nothing. You are dumb for giving free advice without a consulting contract. Snooze, you lose.

 

[kherg007]

Depends. If i give you the 10k, you invest and it grows to 30k, then I'd split the gain (20k; 10k for you. Of course if you're facing 20% capital gains tax, then 20k - 4k = 16k, half of that = 8k for you).

If it's you telling me to invest in amalgamated widgets, and i do, and triple my 10k investment, then I owe nothing, but I'd still drop you after tax 10% finders fee on the gain thus 1.6k - cuz I'm a good bloke.

 

[bazokajoe]

If my original 10K is guaranteed against any loss, guarantee the return within 6-7 months I'd say 5K is fair.

 

[maurice93]

If my original 10K is guaranteed against any loss, guarantee the return within 6-7 months I'd say 5K is fair.

of course though for such a quick gain it is not only potentially a loss but a large loss.

probably some sort of option play can get you a large quick return.. or basically nothing.

 

[richaceg]

I am not a one trick pony, but I will give you the full response later. I assume you mean you would give me 50% of your gain. ( $10k )

Yes....if you can make my 10k into 30k...i'm more than happy to take a 10k gain....I'd rather walk with 20k in my pocket than my original 10k....

 

[Brill]

Your fee should be negotiated beforehand in my opinion.
What’s the answer, Ceiling Cat?

 

[anonemouse]

I'm absorbing all the risk. I'm providing the capital up front to invest. I'd give you 10% of the profit and you would be lucky to get it. If it worked out well over the long term I would give more, but initially 10% of the profit, max.

 

[Brill]

Nothing. You are dumb for giving free advice without a consulting contract. Snooze, you lose.

Not dumb!
Maybe it’s a quick glimpse of what he might be able to do for you, like you giving us a peek at your boobs for free to get some interest in your services.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Wow. I can't believe how many people are bad with money here.

At best he's just brokering a deal. It's not his money being invested and it's not his work creating the return.

The numbers I'm seeing here are just, (excuse my language) retarded.

 

[spraggamuffin]

You get whatever remains after I get my $30k.
If we agreed on a fee for your services that gets deducted from my $30K.
If you failed to make $30k minimum you did not live up to the contract.

 

[y2kmark]

How about we work it like this? You provide me with a set of winning lottery numbers - Powerball or Mega Millions, I'm not particular but it has to be at least 12 hours before the drawing. I'll gladly give you half - 60% even...

 

[Ceiling Cat]

The answers I have been getting here are pretty much the answers I have been getting in person, from half the gain ( which I consider acceptable to 10% which is an insult ) Out of 5000-6000 stocks in Canada I am able to pick the top 4-5% every day, on average the gains are from 2-3% and some at 4-5%. If you are able to make a 10% gain per month and compound your gains, in a year your money will have tripled. ( 310% approx.) In the last while there have been friends and family that have been hit bad by the pandemic. I have helped some people out that are in dire straits. This has brought out the roaches with dollar sign in their eyes. I would not do it for 10% or 50% of the gains because there is a lot of hand holding and coaching. I do not want to get blamed for losses when people get greedy.

Wow. I can't believe how many people are bad with money here.

At best he's just brokering a deal. It's not his money being invested and it's not his work creating the return.

The numbers I'm seeing here are just, (excuse my language) retarded.

I am not brokering a deal. The best things in life are free, to the worthy.

I'm absorbing all the risk. I'm providing the capital up front to invest. I'd give you 10% of the profit and you would be lucky to get it. If it worked out well over the long term I would give more, but initially 10% of the profit, max.

Minimal risk, Maximum upside. Do you have nerve to put a few bucks out on Monday? 95% accuracy track record.


The Valens Company Inc. (VLNS.TO)

Nova Cannabis Inc. (NOVC.TO)

Pet Valu Holdings Ltd. (PET.TO)

I will not be there to hold your hand, you will have to determine your own entry and exit points.

Nothing. You are dumb for giving free advice without a consulting contract. Snooze, you lose.

You do not even realize this is the negotiation. Before you even have made a dime you have eliminated any chance of a profit and preempted any future earnings.

 

[bazokajoe]

Everybody brags about how much money they make but nobody says anything about their losses.
If you play the stock market enough, or gamble, you will incur losses somewhere along the line.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Everybody brags about how much money they make but nobody says anything about their losses.
If you play the stock market enough, or gamble, you will incur losses somewhere along the line.

In lotteries and at the casino there is no loss mitigation, If you play the stock market and have a good track record you can mitigate your losses with a stop loss.

 

[Beagle_]

The answers I have been getting here are pretty much the answers I have been getting in person, from half the gain ( which I consider acceptable to 10% which is an insult ) Out of 5000-6000 stocks in Canada I am able to pick the top 4-5% every day, on average the gains are from 2-3% and some at 4-5%. If you are able to make a 10% gain per month and compound your gains, in a year your money will have tripled. ( 310% approx.) In the last while there have been friends and family that have been hit bad by the pandemic. I have helped some people out that are in dire straits. This has brought out the roaches with dollar sign in their eyes. I would not do it for 10% or 50% of the gains because there is a lot of hand holding and coaching. I do not want to get blamed for losses when people get greedy.




I am not brokering a deal. The best things in life are free, to the worthy.



Minimal risk, Maximum upside. Do you have nerve to put a few bucks out on Monday? 95% accuracy track record.


The Valens Company Inc. (VLNS.TO)

Nova Cannabis Inc. (NOVC.TO)

Pet Valu Holdings Ltd. (PET.TO)

I will not be there to hold your hand, you will have to determine your own entry and exit points.



You do not even realize this is the negotiation. Before you even have made a dime you have eliminated any chance of a profit and preempted and future earnings.

Yea thats cool… sounds like you got a positive network going on.

 

[IM469]

The answers I have been getting here are pretty much the answers I have been getting in person, from half the gain ( which I consider acceptable to 10% which is an insult ) Out of 5000-6000 stocks in Canada I am able to pick the top 4-5% every day, on average the gains are from 2-3% and some at 4-5%. If you are able to make a 10% gain per month and compound your gains, in a year your money will have tripled. ( 310% approx.) In the last while there have been friends and family that have been hit bad by the pandemic. I have helped some people out that are in dire straits. This has brought out the roaches with dollar sign in their eyes. I would not do it for 10% or 50% of the gains because there is a lot of hand holding and coaching. I do not want to get blamed for losses when people get greedy.

This ad is similar to the sleazy get rich scheme on late night TV. You should add the car, mansion and models picture to complete this get rich quick pitch. These get rich schemes have a multi-billionaire who unlike Bezos, Musk, etc , want the unknown smucks to be mansion neighbours. Imagine - soon no poor people in the world ! Of course with their pitch you do have to buy books, courses, etc

I like your get rich scheme financed purely with OPM capital and zero risk. (OPM = other peoples money). You expect 50% of the profit but as in the highlighted portion - no risk - if things go south, they got greedy.

I like this statement: You do not even realize this is the negotiation. Before you even have made a dime you have eliminated any chance of a profit and preempted and future earnings.
No - He eliminated any chance of loss and kept those funds available for guaranteed profits and future earnings with a stable investment.

You have the magic formula ? Start an investment company. At 300% gain, you can keep 50% and they are making 50% on their investment - way better than what's the on street. If they do lose they get tax breaks which you don't get from your bookie.

BTW: Just had a flashback - is Bernie Madoff still in jail ?

 

[Jenesis]

You do not even realize this is the negotiation. Before you even have made a dime you have eliminated any chance of a profit and preempted any future earnings.

You missed the joking sarcasm. Maybe I should have used an emoji.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

You missed the joking sarcasm. Maybe I should have used an emoji.

Too late to apologize now. .....................I will bet if you snagged a Magic Man you will give him 24 hr. front and back door privileges. No worries, there are more than one of us around.

I like your get rich scheme financed purely with OPM capital and zero risk. (OPM = other peoples money). You expect 50% of the profit but as in the highlighted portion - no risk - if things go south, they got greedy.

I guess you missed the part where I said : "The best things in life are free, to the worthy". I was just helping people out when they were in financial difficulty. It was the get rich quick roaches that made offers ranging from 10-50%. I would not even take 50% because I can make that for myself without the headaches and responsibilities. My algorithm stays with me, it is too complicated for an inexperienced person to handle. My picks are the same for me as I recommend to others.

BTW- You get three freebies in post #34

Crema Cat is looking for a happy ending. I'll keep my 30K.

If you offered you would get to keep the $30k anyways. If you turned out to be a disgrazia that would be the last $30k you would see from me.

 

[Beagle_]

I see what your saying now. Initially I meant what I said, 50% of the total as an incentive. I’m talking fast returns

50% of the gain annually would have to be a luxury experience that delivers. Honestly, with your services and cost, I wouldn’t even get into that deal.