BDS Can’t Single Out Israel - Israel is the One And Only Occupier of Palestinian Land

[Zoolooo]

No, shooting at a fleeing car of people who just buried a dead infant isn't murder. It isn't appropriate use of force but it sure as hell isn't murder.

Are you saying Liminal is right about you? A 12 year old out with his family buying vegetables? Looks like they had nothing to do with the funeral for the tragic death of a newborn. You sound like the people denying the murder of George Floyd.

You sound like the right wing response in the US to police killings of blacks. Not like actually….identical.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1420456296365576196

 

[Frankfooter]

Again, pathetic that you feel the need to overtly lie about what I said. You really need some help (and not from gryfin).

You're still defending shooting a 12 year old kid.

So you're going to stick with your plan of listening to Canadians instead of asking Palestinians what they want? Sadly they hate the One State farce you want to force them into, they don't even want to engage in negotiations.

Palestinians support BDS, I support BDS.
Palestinians want to end apartheid, I support that.

You are the one that not only won't listen to them, you actively support stealing their homes, shooting them if they protest, locking them in the world's largest open air prison and ruling them through apartheid.
Don't you dare claim that I'm the one that isn't listening to them.

You think they wanted Gaza bombed like you did?

 

[Frankfooter]

Sure, keep up with your excuses that everything is Israel's fault when the reality is the Palestinians keep rejecting the concept and your Hamas refuses even the idea of peace with Jews.



Also, maybe you should read those UN resolutions because they don't say Palestinians have to go to Israel.

Resolution 194 " 11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible; "

- The significant part of that is the vast majority DON'T WANT to become Israeli.

Resolution 242 is " For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem; "
Again, does not say Israel must immediately take all refugees.

They want to return to their homes, whether you call it Israel or Palestine.
Israel should honour Resolution 194.

What I find absolutely disgusting is that you claim you support the two state solution and yet now claim that land is Israel, not Palestine, so they shouldn't be allowed to return.
This clearly shows that you do not support the two state solution.

All you support is settler colonialism, stealing more of Palestine and ruling it through apartheid.

 

[Frankfooter]

Unlike the PA or Hamas who celebrate the racist attackers, Israel has arrested them.

B'tselem shows that even when Israel is given evidence of crimes by Jews, only 3% ever are charged.
Its an apartheid system.

No Accountability

Accountability for human rights violations is a crucial element of the rule of law. It is critical both for the individuals who have been harmed – in that they see those who have harmed them brought to justice – and for the public, since an effective system produces deterrence and may prevent...

www.btselem.org

 

[Frankfooter]

How predictable that you take a post where I criticize shooting at the car of dead baby buriers but you make dumb accusations.

Even funnier that after posting that a couple violent Israelis make all Jews in the West Bank legitimate targets, you complain that Israel shot a man engaged in violence.

You are posting IDF claims as if they were facts.
This was a family out shopping for groceries, there were two other kids, aged 9 and 5, in the car with their father at the same time.

Israel kills child out shopping with his dad

Slaying comes day after occupation soldiers killed water engineer for Beita village.

electronicintifada.net

Its just another day for the death squads in Israel.

Israeli terror is at it again. The Israel Defense Forces’ death squads chalked up another successful week: four bodies of innocent Palestinians piled up between the two Fridays. There doesn’t seem to be a connection between the four incidents in which four sons were killed, but the link cannot be broken.

They killed a 12-year-old boy and a 41-year-old plumber. They killed a 17-year-old youth and a 20-year-old young man attending a funeral, all in one week. An Israeli slogan during the 1948 war went “To arms, every good man,” leading later to the concept of the IDF’s “purity of arms.” Four in one week, for no reason, with no hesitation, with no terrorist facing them. Four executions of young men with dreams, families, plans and loves.

 

[basketcase]

Are you saying Liminal is right about you? A 12 year old out with his family buying vegetables?...

You consider a dead newborn to be vegetables? Shit, you guys are desperate.

 

[basketcase]

They want to return to their homes, whether you call it Israel or Palestine.
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Except the polling of refugees and descendants doesn't show that. The most recent poll I can find of them has only 12% wanting to move to Israel. 75% want to be in a Palestinian state. Of course Palestinian desires have no interest for you.

 

[basketcase]

You're still defending shooting a 12 year old kid.
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Bullshit. Sadly you are so desperate to demonize everyone you disagree with, you need to make up your own reality.

 

[basketcase]

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Palestinians support BDS, ...

Funny that you pretend to know what Palestinians want despite endless posts justifying why you ignore their views.

 

[basketcase]

B'tselem shows that even when Israel is given evidence of crimes by Jews, only 3% ever are charged.
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Is that your attempt to pretend Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets?

 

[basketcase]

You are posting IDF claims as if they were facts.
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And back to your ignoring anything that comes from Jews or Israelis because they're Jews/Israelis (while quoting electronic intifada).

Meanwhile despite repeatedly claiming Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets because some Jews are militants, you try to pretend that Palestinians like that 20 year old who was killed while committing violence is somehow a protected victim.

 

[Frankfooter]

You consider a dead newborn to be vegetables? Shit, you guys are desperate.

You believe everything the IDF says and ignore the photos, videos and witness testimony?
Not surprising, but you're making cantaro look moderate and respectful.

 

[Frankfooter]

Except the polling of refugees and descendants doesn't show that. The most recent poll I can find of them has only 12% wanting to move to Israel. 75% want to be in a Palestinian state. Of course Palestinian desires have no interest for you.

I thought you supported the two state solution?
If you do, then you should have no problem with 75% wanting to return to the state you pretend to support?

Or are you lying again?
This is you admitting that you think its already the one state apartheid solution and there never will be a Palestine, isn't it?

Meanwhile despite repeatedly claiming Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets because some Jews are militants, you try to pretend that Palestinians like that 20 year old who was killed while committing violence is somehow a protected victim.

No, stop lying.
I said when settlers attack with the backing of the IDF they are acting as militants.
If they are unarmed settlers, while they are all committing war crimes on behalf of Israel, they are still civilians and should only be taken to the Hague as war criminals.

Israeli settler 'shot at Palestinians using soldier's rifle'

The attack, which took place on 26 June in the Palestinian village of Al-Tuwani, was one of a number of violent incidents that day.

english.alaraby.co.uk

 

[Rako3]

I will not be silenced until California is returned to Mexico. And Arizona.

Let's not have double standards, now. Don't forget all the disenfranchised Native Peoples who actually own all the real estate on this continent. It all has to go back.

 

[Frankfooter]

I will not be silenced until California is returned to Mexico. And Arizona.

Let's not have double standards, now. Don't forget all the disenfranchised Native Peoples who actually own all the real estate on this continent. It all has to go back.

Its not about the real estate as much as its about basic human rights and racism.

 

[Rako3]

Its not about the real estate as much as its about basic human rights and racism.

If native Americans routinely lobbed missiles into, say, Los Angeles, I don't think the US would take kindly to it.

 

[Frankfooter]

If native Americans routinely lobbed missiles into, say, Los Angeles, I don't think the US would take kindly to it.

Just like if the US army routinely lobbed missiles into the rez, or built walls with snipers around them, American's wouldn't support it.

Bring in the ICC, let them charge whoever is responsible on both sides.
End apartheid.

 

[Rako3]

Its not about the real estate as much as its about basic human rights and racism.

It's absolutely about the real estate. Why is real estate specifically mentioned in the Hamas charter, i.e. push all the Jews into the sea so we get ALL the land?

Killing all the Jews is written into the Hamas bylaws. And they refuse to take that out. Think about that. If some group expressed in their founding bylaws that our plan is to eliminate every man, woman and child currently living in Toronto and we will not stop until that is achieved, would you just say oh, that's not important.... And when they started lobbing missiles you'd say oh, that's cute, leave them be, they're just acting out...

No, you'd go into wherever they're shooting from and eliminate their capacity to kill your citizens. No question. And if they were too stubborn to stop, you'd do it again and again until they were incapacitated. That's not racism, that's defending your country.

Israel's not the only ones tired of the mismanagement and rabies of Hamas. Egypt wants nothing to do with them either. Their border is also locked solid against them. And if Hamas lived next to you, you'd feel the same way.

 

[Zoolooo]

It's absolutely about the real estate. Why is real estate specifically mentioned in the Hamas charter, i.e. push all the Jews into the sea so we get ALL the land?

Killing all the Jews is written into the Hamas bylaws. And they refuse to take that out. Think about that. If some group expressed in their founding bylaws that our plan is to eliminate every man, woman and child currently living in Toronto and we will not stop until that is achieved, would you just say oh, that's not important.... And when they started lobbing missiles you'd say oh, that's cute, leave them be, they're just acting out...

No, you'd go into wherever they're shooting from and eliminate their capacity to kill your citizens. No question. And if they were too stubborn to stop, you'd do it again and again until they were incapacitated. That's not racism, that's defending your country.

Israel's not the only ones tired of the mismanagement and rabies of Hamas. Egypt wants nothing to do with them either. Their border is also locked solid against them. And if Hamas lived next to you, you'd feel the same way.

Isn’t this directly from the course “Introduction to Racist Hasbara Narrative 101”?

 

[Liminal]

If native Americans routinely lobbed missiles into, say, Los Angeles, I don't think the US would take kindly to it.

At least he equates the Palestinians with native Americans as the original inhabitants and not Zionists.