Well, now that you've waded into the mud here, homer, I think you better show us all how its done and provide us with your legitimate and practical solution.
I'm all ears.
BDS Can’t Single Out Israel - Israel is the One And Only Occupier of Palestinian Land
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I'm all ears.
Great practical solution. I’m sure everyone would agree to that. You sir should be voted into Mensa and given a golden star for openness and listening ability. *green font*
What's your 'practical' solution?
Why do I think its just going to be another variation of apartheid?
Agree? It’s international law. You must have missed that Mensa meeting.
But if you want to understand Homer’s crocodile tears for Palestinians, take a gander at one his previous howlers
I guess homer must think both sides are totally failing in their goals then, Israel keeps killing a shitload of civilians while Hamas hardly kills anyone these days.
Its pretty sad when just saying both sides should respect and be held to international is taken as if its some kind of radical, Muslim conspiracy or something.
Right of Return
Transfer of Population
Ending the occupation
Ending apartheid
All of those are just the basic, honour the law, kinds of things.
So you are saying that it is Israel's fault that these other countries keep these people in camps and do not give them basic rights? For 60 + years?
I can’t say it any clearer. These people were stopped from returning to their homes by Israel because of their ethnicity. They didn’t simply appear out of thin air in refugee camps. Israel still refuses to let these original inhabitants to return home...after 60 years.
Yes, they have been living in refugee camps for 60 years because Israel won't let them back.
Those other countries have been helping support them because Israel refuses to honour their Right of Return.
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read. Couldn't the Palestinians in those camp have been given some rights while they are struggling to return?
Yes, Israel could have honoured the multiple UN resolutions calling for them to recognize their universal Right of Return.
Fortunately for the refugees, the host countries have supported them as they wait for Israel to do the just thing, either just retribution or bringing them back.
Of course that would upset the 'demographics', so instead its just another human rights abuse.
New report out today from HRW on the latest round of Israeli violence.
Gaza: Apparent War Crimes During May Fighting
Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups carried out attacks during the May 2021 fighting in the Gaza Strip and Israel that violated the laws of war and apparently amount to war crimes.
Yes, Israel could have honoured the multiple UN resolutions calling for them to recognize their universal Right of Return.
Fortunately for the refugees, the host countries have supported them as they wait for Israel to do the just thing, either just retribution or bringing them back.
Of course that would upset the 'demographics', so instead its just another human rights abuse.
New report out today from HRW on the latest round of Israeli violence.
Gaza: Apparent War Crimes During May Fighting
Israeli forces and Palestinian armed groups carried out attacks during the May 2021 fighting in the Gaza Strip and Israel that violated the laws of war and apparently amount to war crimes.www.hrw.org
You keep avoiding the question. I agree that Israel could do much more. But what does that have to do with these other countries denying the Palestinian refugees in these camps the basic rights. What does one have to do with the other. Both things can be true. Israel could be a great satan etic but why at the same time and for the last 60 years have these other countries denied these tights without any criticism from you or like thinkers?
Yup. Right of return. Problem solved. Unless their human rights and ethnicity is a problem for you Homer. Your posting history suggests it is.
Israel could do more? What a strange statement. You jump right over Israel’s ethnic cleansing. You ignore Israel’s refusal to abide by international law. And the fact that Israel drove hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into refugee camps in the West Bank and Gaza and is now trying to steal the land they escaped to doesn’t even register with you. No, it’s the countries that offered refuge and continue to that are the problem.
Bizarre. But the narrative you offer is the Zionist narrative that they keep churning out.
I can see why I have stayed out of this topic. Seems to be pointless. I ask how much is 2 + 2 and you and frank answer apples. I am not defending Israel and I have no idea how you could read that into any of my posts. I am asking why these other countries do not provide any rights to the people in the camps. That is contrary as far as I know to the international laws regarding refugees. Is there some other population that has been kept in camps without rights for 60 + years?
How could I read a defence of Israel into your post? I was very specific why in my first few sentences. These people aren’t kept in refugee camps, they are being kept out of their homeland…and by whom? You are completely indifferent to the plight of Palestinians in refugee camps in the occupied territories and subject to non stop Israeli violence and where their suffering eclipses anything in other refugee camps.
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Those other countries weren't denying Palestinians what the wanted, to be able to return to their homes in Palestine.
Instead, those countries housed them while they waited for Israel to fix the problem they created.
Why is that you think other countries should have to absorb refugees that only want to go back instead of Israel dealing with it?
Its clear that you don't.
Its the apartheid one state solution right now, if you've got a better solution than backing sanctions to end apartheid, go ahead.
I was right. There is really no point in participating in this conversation when all you do is divert. It has nothing to do with what they want. Couldn't they still want to return to Israel while they are enjoying the basic rights and dignity which a country receiving refugees is obliged to provide. Have you no empathy for the Palestinian people at all. You would rather they remain in those camps in those conditions perhaps forever and more generations for sure. I will not be back to this thread so I am not too interested in your reply.
Wait, so you wanted the host countries to accept them as full on citizens instead of hosting them as refugees?
That kinda kills the argument that they are refugees just waiting for their Right of Return to be honoured.
Oh wait, never mind.
I see that's exactly what you want, you just want all the host countries to take on the refugees so that Israel never has to.
Got it.
