Vaccination freedoms???? I dont think so!

[MONTYY]

Get it straight, MRNA is NOT a vaccine. Its a gene therapy.

There is a difference.

I wonder why they keep pushing gene therapy for a VIRUS instead of a vaccine like AZ just like you would use for the annual flu shot?

Moot point smallhatchet. TJ is dead wrong stating that most Canadians got AZ.
Learn how to read

On a side note, the CDC calls mRNA a vaccine. Think it makes little to no difference what you call it.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

 

[smallhatchet]

This should be fun, what is the difference and how are the mRNA vaccines not vaccines?

Thats the problem.

You guys dont know the difference.

You might want to actually read the articles posted by EXPERTS instead of hitting the laugh emoji. All the info is there.

If you like, i'll do you misinformed, lazy guys a favor and post it again: https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/8...Dvsxd8c8ET9A-fAqYi3ckap0l0oqf1yHFUkW9ePvzUzs0

Form of Gene Therapy
The mRNA vaccinations are a form of gene therapy, according to its definition in many parts of the world, including Europe. Gene therapies remain under strict regulation and few gene therapeutics have been approved by health authorities because of safety concerns. Some experts are less concerned with the long-term risks of the mRNA vaccines, but more concerned about the efficacy of them, as mRNA is very fragile and if not properly stored, could be destroyed.

Ill also REPOST this one. This one explains it better by a doctor in simpler terms: https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2021/02/24/mrna-its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

 

[lenny2]

Covid-19 Vaccines Can’t Alter Your DNA, Here’s Why

A common myth circulating on social media sites falsely claims that the mRNA vaccines against the Covid-19 coronavirus can change DNA.

www.forbes.com

 

[lenny2]

In-Depth: Study suggests coronavirus infection could alter our DNA

Controversial new research from a team of prominent scientists suggests the pandemic coronavirus doesn’t just hijack our cells, in some cases it can actually alter our DNA.

www.10news.com

 

[smallhatchet]

Moot point smallhatchet. TJ is dead wrong stating that most Canadians got AZ.
Learn how to read

On a side note, the CDC calls mRNA a vaccine. Think it makes little to no difference what you call it.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

Oh boy.....
You say in one breath that the CDC calls the MRNA a vacine then you make another post explaining the difference between MRna's and Rna's.

Do you know its ONLY been approved for EMERGENCY USE ONLY at the moment????

 

[MONTYY]

Oh boy.....
You say in one breath that the CDC calls the MRNA a vacine then you make another post explaining the difference between MRna's and Rna's.

Do you know its ONLY been approved for EMERGENCY USE ONLY at the moment????

Both Items I posted are from the CDC website. They are from the same page no less.

Every drug being shot right now is for Emergency Use, included your beloved AZ. Sucks you picked AZ over an mRNA vaccine. That was your mistake

Nothing you are telling us is note worth or new information. You might as well be telling us that the sky is blue. GIGO with you. LOL

 

[squeezer]

Thats the problem.

You guys dont know the difference.

You might want to actually read the articles posted by EXPERTS instead of hitting the laugh emoji. All the info is there.

If you like, i'll do you misinformed, lazy guys a favor and post it again: https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/8...Dvsxd8c8ET9A-fAqYi3ckap0l0oqf1yHFUkW9ePvzUzs0

Form of Gene Therapy
The mRNA vaccinations are a form of gene therapy, according to its definition in many parts of the world, including Europe. Gene therapies remain under strict regulation and few gene therapeutics have been approved by health authorities because of safety concerns. Some experts are less concerned with the long-term risks of the mRNA vaccines, but more concerned about the efficacy of them, as mRNA is very fragile and if not properly stored, could be destroyed.

Ill also REPOST this one. This one explains it better by a doctor in simpler terms: https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2021/02/24/mrna-its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

I'd like to add SmallHatchet as a contender and join the competition between TJ and CM for the Delusional Terb Award.

SmallHatchet, please submit your I.Q. scores to Award Admin to confirm they are low enough to qualify, thank you.

 

[lenny2]

Do you know its ONLY been approved for EMERGENCY USE ONLY at the moment????

The key word being "approved". And doing quite well, i might add.

 

[smallhatchet]

Both Items I posted are from the CDC website. They are from the same page no less.

Every drug being shot right now is for Emergency Use, included your beloved AZ. Sucks you picked AZ over an mRNA vaccine. That was your mistake

Nothing you are telling us is note worth or new information. You might as well be telling us that the sky is blue. GIGO with you. LOL

Well, if the cdc cant get its information straight either when explaining it then go at er!! Im sure the second dose will keep you safe from a virus with over 99% recovery rate with a shot that only offers no more than 95% protection ? LMAO

 

[smallhatchet]

The key word being "approved". And doing quite well, i might add.

Yup, for EMERGENCY USE ONLY because of the lack of testing.

Thats why govt CANT FORCE or MANDATE it. Those types of drugs need a minimum of 10 years of studies first to make sure they're safe for human use.

What else can we think of to inject into bodies as guinea pigs for science????? You do know some people actually sign up for these experimental treatments? The only difference is that they GET PAID!!!! LMAO

 

[lenny2]

Im sure the second dose will keep you safe from a virus with over 99% recovery rate with a shot that only offers no more than 95% protection ? LMAO

That remark is evidence of your confusion.

Since the vast majority of those dying are unvaccinated, the sensible thing to do is get vaccinated.

 

[smallhatchet]

That remark is evidence of your confusion.

Since the vast majority of those dying are unvaccinated, the sensible thing to do is get vaccinated.

Really???

Seems to me the vast majority of complications of covid are from the "Vaccine" lately!! LMAO

What better way to die from something you might not have ever gotten in the first place but from something thats meant to help you instead? LMAO

 

[squeezer]

That remark is evidence of your confusion.

err...delusion

 

[Valcazar]

Thats the problem.

You guys dont know the difference.

On the contrary, I do very well.
I was just curious what approach you were going to take since unlike TJ you don't always go for "here is a paper or article I have misunderstood".

You might want to actually read the articles posted by EXPERTS instead of hitting the laugh emoji. All the info is there.

Always happy to.

If you like, i'll do you misinformed, lazy guys a favor and post it again:

You're so angry all the time.
You should smile more.

https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/8...Dvsxd8c8ET9A-fAqYi3ckap0l0oqf1yHFUkW9ePvzUzs0

Gonna POST A SCIENCE EXPERT!!! -> Links to the "Sovereign Wealth Fund Institute" -- not a promising start.

First paragraph and they fuck up what mRNA means ("Moderna took the mRNA idea seriously, its name – a new word combining modified and RNA. ") -- an even less promising progression.

Form of Gene Therapy
The mRNA vaccinations are a form of gene therapy, according to its definition in many parts of the world, including Europe. Gene therapies remain under strict regulation and few gene therapeutics have been approved by health authorities because of safety concerns. Some experts are less concerned with the long-term risks of the mRNA vaccines, but more concerned about the efficacy of them, as mRNA is very fragile and if not properly stored, could be destroyed.

Interestingly, you didn't go on to quote the part where they discuss more specifically how gene therapy is defined "Gene therapy replaces a faulty gene or adds a new gene in an attempt to cure disease or improve your body’s ability to fight disease."

This, of course, is something the vaccines don't do.

So that one wasn't great. What's next?

Ill also REPOST this one. This one explains it better by a doctor in simpler terms: https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2021/02/24/mrna-its-gene-therapy-not-a-vaccine/

Well, we've got a Plandemic 2 guy - David Martin - who is " Founder and Chairman of M·CAM Inc., the international leader in innovation finance, trade, and intangible asset finance." -- so we are back to financial people for our gene therapy definitions.

Not a good start. Again.

But it is a good argument! "It isn't a vaccine because I say it isn't!".
Using the Moderna SEC filing to claim it is actually gene therapy is a nice touch, though. Slick. Even if he doesn't quote it here, he knows most people won't go and look at what Moderna actually claims (which isn't that it is gene therapy, but a discussion about how the FDA might regulate it).


But cool!
In answer to my challenge about what the difference is you quoted two investment experts who both seem to not understand or are deliberately misrepresenting things.
Well done.

 

[Valcazar]

You say in one breath that the CDC calls the MRNA a vacine then you make another post explaining the difference between MRna's and Rna's.

Wait, what is the difference between MRna's and Rna's?
And why are you capitalizing them like that?

Every drug being shot right now is for Emergency Use, included your beloved AZ. Sucks you picked AZ over an mRNA vaccine. That was your mistake

Wait, why does smallhatchet love AZ? That's using a viral vector, which would qualify as a "gene therapy" by some definitions (it still wouldn't be a good argument, but it is actually stronger than the mRNA one.)

Those types of drugs need a minimum of 10 years of studies first to make sure they're safe for human use.

Citation needed.

 

[northofsixty]

Valcazar - I enjoyed your point by point replies to "small minded, small (actually infinitesimally tiny intellect), small hands, "smallhatchet"

You are going to make his little head explode. Another example of a complete moron trying to prove their depth of knowledge while actually just confirming how delusional they truly are.

Smallhatchet - time to go back to your life long deep dive and analysis of world trends and global conspiracies that you bragged about in another thread.
Your too tight tin hat has cut off what little blood flow you had to your tiny, tiny brain. Good thing you supposedly own your business as I don't think you would be employable otherwise.

 

[squeezer]

Valcazar - I enjoyed your point by point replies to "small minded, small (actually infinitesimally tiny intellect), small hands, "smallhatchet"

I agree, Valcazar reduced smallhatchet to hatchetless, ouch!

 

[lenny2]

Seems to me the vast majority of complications of covid are from the "Vaccine" lately!! LMAO

Complications are not death. How many has covid killed?

Covid has caused millions of health problems, i.e. complications, in those surviving the infection.

 

[Valcazar]

Valcazar - I enjoyed your point by point replies to "small minded, small (actually infinitesimally tiny intellect), small hands, "smallhatchet"

You are going to make his little head explode. Another example of a complete moron trying to prove their depth of knowledge while actually just confirming how delusional they truly are.

I agree, Valcazar reduced smallhatchet to hatchetless, ouch!

 

[smallhatchet]

Citation needed.

Nah, how about you prove me wrong with your sources of info which none of you covid chickens have done as of yet?