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I never said there is no racism
In fact I was quite clear



Maybe black people smoke more dope in those states
Maybe white people are more terrified of potential jail terms and are more discrete / careful about cannabis use ie do not get caught

Since you seem to be an expert on southern / midwestern demographics, perhaps you can see if there are other factors which might be correlated to your 3.7 xx rate
What is the relative number of broken homes black / vs white ie lack of a stable family environment or father figure?
What is the relative number of high school drop outs black vs white ?

I suggest you do a little more digging before trying to blame racism for everything under the sun



If they are breaking the law,....they are not viewed as black or white, they are viewed as the defendant
Do you think law enforcement should have quotas based on race?

Defendant #101 - You get 8 months in the county lock up
Defendant #102- Defendant #101 put us over our black quota for the month. Your case is dismissed
That type of justice is creeping in up here, courts in Canada are giving more lenient sentences to Indigenous criminals strictly because they’re Indigenous.
 

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That type of justice is creeping in up here, courts in Canada are giving more lenient sentences to Indigenous criminals strictly because they’re Indigenous.
That is a dangerous slippery slope
 

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Fox News busted for trying to pass off GOP operatives as 'concerned' parents
 
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Does it count as "being busted" when this is just standard operating procedure?
(The New York Times likes to do this a lot as well, if I remember.)
 
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Fox News busted for trying to pass off GOP operatives as 'concerned' parents

I am shocked. Fox News?
 

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silentkisser

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really?

critical race theory | Definition, Principles, & Facts | Britannica


that sounds quite different from what you claim
if the Britannica definition is correct, then CRT is extremely divisive, counter productive, dangerous and should defiantly not be promoted anywhere , especially not in schools

Race is defined biologically and laws/ institutions are not segregated by race
Are there racist people? Sure there are
This CRT BS is not going to fix that

All Individuals need to accept responsibly for the path they take through life
Constant messaging that "racism is baked into society" will not encourage the assumption of that responsibility and only encourage racial division

Do you want to know how to stop racism? Morgan Freeman said it best, “Stop talking about it.”
See, this is the problem. Just because the laws don't negatively impact you, you think there is no problem. The reality is, stripping out the racism isn't easy. And while laws might be written in a way that they are not segregated by race, the enforcement of them sure as hell is.

As for accepting responsibility for the path we take...But you will deny this, but you had all sorts of advantages a POC did not. You likely have a "western" sounding name. You are white, which means you probably were not followed around by clerks when you went into a retailer. You were likely never stopped and carded by the police, just because you were walking down the street.

The only reason this stokes racial division is because some white people don't want to believe they have privileges that POC never or rarely get. It's not like the whites asked for it, they usually don't even recognize it.

To paraphrase Morgan Freeman's quote .... To stop cancer, just stop testing for it. Works about as well as not talking about racism.
 
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silentkisser

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I never said there is no racism
In fact I was quite clear



Maybe black people smoke more dope in those states
Maybe white people are more terrified of potential jail terms and are more discrete / careful about cannabis use ie do not get caught

Since you seem to be an expert on southern / midwestern demographics, perhaps you can see if there are other factors which might be correlated to your 3.7 xx rate
What is the relative number of broken homes black / vs white ie lack of a stable family environment or father figure?
What is the relative number of high school drop outs black vs white ?

I suggest you do a little more digging before trying to blame racism for everything under the sun



If they are breaking the law,....they are not viewed as black or white, they are viewed as the defendant
Do you think law enforcement should have quotas based on race?

Defendant #101 - You get 8 months in the county lock up
Defendant #102- Defendant #101 put us over our black quota for the month. Your case is dismissed
Or maybe (and more likely) the white defendant is able to plead to lesser charges, or are less likely to be profiled by a cop who will create some bullshit reason to pull over the black person's car. As for the reason for a high number of broken homes in black communities....could it be related to the 3.7 higher rate of arrests???

You really have no clue about this shit. You just think everyone is equal in the eyes of the law. That's not true, and it has never been so. In the US (and Canada) prosecutors have all sorts of leeway to charge or dismiss cases. The can try to crucify someone, or show leniency and let them plead to lower charges. And what do you think they do to different black and white defendants??? Here's an interesting tidbit - Did you know there are separate criminal charges for cocaine and crack? A cocaine arrest is less severe than crack, because affluent white people take cocaine (usually), while poor blacks did crack. Not blatantly racist, but there is a reason the incarceration of blacks exploded in the US in the 1980s.

So, go stick your head back in the sand and ignore how the system is stacked against POC. Pretend that CRT is everywhere, and it demonizes white people. Believe its something being taught in elementary schools. You might as well as believe the earth is flat or that the moon is made out of cheese...
 

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Or maybe (and more likely) the white defendant is able to plead to lesser charges, or are less likely to be profiled by a cop who will create some bullshit reason to pull over the black person's car. As for the reason for a high number of broken homes in black communities....could it be related to the 3.7 higher rate of arrests???
Oh boy
Do you honestly think arrests for dope smoking exceed the number of broken homes


You really have no clue about this shit. You just think everyone is equal in the eyes of the law. That's not true, and it has never been so.
Do you say. Too bad that is not the way the law is written

In the US (and Canada) prosecutors have all sorts of leeway to charge or dismiss cases. The can try to crucify someone, or show leniency and let them plead to lower charges.
And that will be determined by a number of factors such a past criminal record, if violence occurred during the crime, co-operation with law enforcement & prosecutors , and the prospects for turning your life around

And what do you think they do to different black and white defendants???
Treat them both as defendants and weigh the above circumstances


Here's an interesting tidbit - Did you know there are separate criminal charges for cocaine and crack? A cocaine arrest is less severe than crack, because affluent white people take cocaine (usually), while poor blacks did crack. Not blatantly racist, but there is a reason the incarceration of blacks exploded in the US in the 1980s.
Do not be ridiculous
Crack is made by recrystallizing cocaine to make it more concentrated
It is also smoked with the results being far more immediate and severe
According to the Center for Substance Abuse Research. Since crack is so highly concentrated, it is extremely addictive.
More so than cocaine

separate criminal charges for cocaine and crack have nothing to do with race , rather crack is viewed as a more dangerous drug

So, go stick your head back in the sand and ignore how the system is stacked against POC.
Not based on your uniformed rant

Pretend that CRT is everywhere, and it demonizes white people.
Demonizing white people is the objective, no doubt about it

Believe its something being taught in elementary schools.
The question is whether it should be taught in schools
The answer is no

All Individuals need to accept responsibly for the path they take through life
Constant messaging that "racism is baked into society" will not encourage the assumption of that responsibility and only encourage racial division

Do you want to know how to stop racism? Morgan Freeman said it best, “Stop talking about it.”
 

silentkisser

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Oh boy
Do you honestly think arrests for dope smoking exceed the number of broken homes



Do you say. Too bad that is not the way the law is written


And that will be determined by a number of factors such a past criminal record, if violence occurred during the crime, co-operation with law enforcement & prosecutors , and the prospects for turning your life around


Treat them both as defendants and weigh the above circumstances




Do not be ridiculous
Crack is made by recrystallizing cocaine to make it more concentrated
It is also smoked with the results being far more immediate and severe
According to the Center for Substance Abuse Research. Since crack is so highly concentrated, it is extremely addictive.
More so than cocaine

separate criminal charges for cocaine and crack have nothing to do with race , rather crack is viewed as a more dangerous drug


Not based on your uniformed rant


Demonizing white people is the objective, no doubt about it


The question is whether it should be taught in schools
The answer is no

All Individuals need to accept responsibly for the path they take through life
Constant messaging that "racism is baked into society" will not encourage the assumption of that responsibility and only encourage racial division

Do you want to know how to stop racism? Morgan Freeman said it best, “Stop talking about it.”
You have a very naive view of how things actually work. Sure, the law is written to be seen as impartial, but when prosecutors can decide charges, they can hammer one person and let another off with a slap on the wrist for the very same crime.

As for crack vs cocaine, they are basically similar experiences. Except you smoke one, snort the other. But, please, read here:

The bottom line is, POC are more likely to get arrested and convicted than white people for the same crime. There is systemic racism in the legal, political and education systems. Turning a blind eye to it will not make it go away. Critical Race Theory is trying to address these issues. It is not saying that white people today are complicate, or that they are the cause. Anyone who tells you that is full of shit.
 
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JohnLarue

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To paraphrase Morgan Freeman's quote .... To stop cancer, just stop testing for it. Works about as well as not talking about racism.

Well, ah No

The physical testing for cancer cells is a biological test which can repeated and verified as positive or negative
Racism is an individuals view about others.
These two are not at all interchangeable

Both Morgan Freemans quote and Dr Kings quote are true and just

CRT is divisive and will lead to violence & chaos
 

silentkisser

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Well, ah No

The physical testing for cancer cells is a biological test which can repeated and verified as positive or negative
Racism is an individuals view about others.
These two are not at all interchangeable

Both Morgan Freemans quote and Dr Kings quote are true and just

CRT is divisive and will lead to violence & chaos
For the last time, CRT is not what you are pretending it is. Seriously. Read about it from a source other than the fear-based racist right-wing media. You might actually learn something.
 
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You have a very naive view of how things actually work. Sure, the law is written to be seen as impartial, but when prosecutors can decide charges, they can hammer one person and let another off with a slap on the wrist for the very same crime.
What have you been on the wrong side of the law a few times?
Did you get a few extra years for slinging rock?

leniency will be determined by a number of factors such a past criminal record, if violence occurred during the crime, co-operation with law enforcement & prosecutors , and the prospects for turning your life around


As for crack vs cocaine, they are basically similar experiences. Except you smoke one, snort the other. But, please, read here:
What part of more concentrated did you not understand ?
Smoking it gets it into the lungs and blood stream a lot quicker

You must be smoking some if you think the laws were written because rock is a black mans drug, while Whitty prefers the the powder
That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have read here
the laws were written because rock is more dangerous

The bottom line is, POC are more likely to get arrested and convicted than white people for the same crime.
That happens if POC are more likely to commit the same crime


A sad fact to revel, however stats like this revel the ugly truth

There is systemic racism in the legal, political and education systems. Turning a blind eye to it will not make it go away. Critical Race Theory is trying to address these issues. It is not saying that white people today are complicate, or that they are the cause. Anyone who tells you that is full of shit.
CRT will do nothing to address the real issues the above graph raises, other than hide them

critical race theory | Definition, Principles, & Facts | Britannica
critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.
Both Morgan Freemans quote and Dr Kings quote are true and just

CRT is divisive and will lead to violence & chaos
 
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That type of justice is creeping in up here, courts in Canada are giving more lenient sentences to Indigenous criminals strictly because they’re Indigenous.
For the last 15 or 20 years - LOLOLOL. It's Regina v Gladue . And it only applies for dumb ass, relatively minor, "this person's upbringing was so fucked up on the reservation, they don't know any better" type stuff.

It's universally accepted in criminal law in this country since the 2000's.
 

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These days pretty much everybody has to go to work-related "unconscious racism" and "trans inclusion" seminars. The "unconscious racism" seminars exhort you to be aware of how to react to gender and race and whether they provokes a hostile or dismissive response in you. It's well-meaning and not especially accusatory, even though cringingly PC and naive.

To manufacture a conspiracy theory to destroy the US from this type of slightly annoying rah-rah-ing is ridiculous.
 

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These days pretty much everybody has to go to work-related "unconscious racism" and "trans inclusion" seminars. The "unconscious racism" seminars exhort you to be aware of how to react to gender and race and whether they provokes a hostile or dismissive response in you. It's well-meaning and not especially accusatory, even though cringingly PC and naive.
it is politically correct and naïve
No organization will set themselves up for the attack from the woke media by refusing to make this mandatory

If someone is inclined to be racist, they are not walking out of one of these seminars 'a changed person"

To manufacture a conspiracy theory to destroy the US from this type of slightly annoying rah-rah-ing is ridiculous.
Jesus, every time someone opposes one of the loonie lefts pet projects of trying control other peoples behavior, the response is always "Conspiracy Theory"
There is no conspiracy, every Loonie wants to control others, its a natural hardwiring issue that affects a portion of the population.
Apparently it can also also infectious via ever increasing propaganda ie like climate change crisis

All Individuals need to accept responsibly for the path they take through life
Constant messaging that "racism is baked into society" will not encourage the assumption of that responsibility and only encourage racial division

Do you want to know how to stop racism? Morgan Freeman said it best, “Stop talking about it.”

Dr King put it well
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

CRT judges an entire demographic of society based on skin color and ignores the ability to judge individuals by the content of their character.
 
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