No, Israel is not a settler colonial state, and here's why
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Once again I would encourage you to work on your reading comprehension. You referred to the Jordanians clearing few slum.. Given you obsession with all things Israeli it was not hard to guess. Was i wrong?
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More whataboutism from you. Your desperation to change the topic is telling.
Shall we compare how many Arabs were left in the Old City after 1967 and how many Jews were left after 1949. I'm happy to discuss and criticize any country's military actions but quite clearly your only interest is demonizing Israel so it would hardly be a worthwhile discussion.
Not a terror group. You just don't like that a Jewish militia fought back when invaded by a bunch of Arab armies including two that were armed or directly led by British officers.
The second point is a very valid one in the context of early-mid 20th century political ideals. It was quite common at the time for an ethnically centred war to be 'solved' by population transfers in both directions; for example in the Partition of India or the end of the War of Greek Independence. We can definitely discuss the differences in the conflict but that would include discussing the fact that many of the Jews expelled from their centuries old war were nowhere near the land where conflict was occurring. The main reason why Palestinian refugees are a continuing issue and not any of the others is Arab states have refused to assimilate refugees even though for Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, Palestinians were part of the same Ottoman province. Meanwhile India, Pakistan, Greek, Turkey, and Israel went to great lengths to allow refugees a full chance to assimilate.
Mutual population transfers aren't pretty but they were the standard of the time.
As for the rest, I don't support settlements. I could see the settlements that were Jewish before Jordan cleared them out being part of land swaps but that would be in the context of a peace deal. People stating the third point as a justification are dishonestly making reasons to justify their views but if narrowed down to specifics, Arab Israelis overwhelmingly want to stay part of Israel if a Two state peace ever is achieved.
You make good points.
The thesis is Isreal isn’t colonial, however the author just failed to make that argument. It was a badly written editorial.
Nice try. Jcpro explicitly described the Israeli action of demolishing a Palestinian neighborhood known as the Moroccan Quarter in the post you cited.
If you are so upset and can provide a detailed description of what you think happened to the Jewish Quarter, why are you not equally upset about what happened to the Moroccan Quarter?
Now that’s comical. This is a thread about Israeli colonialism, so no whataboutism talking about Israel’s colonialism in bulldozing an entire Palestinian neighborhood so that they had some extra room for Passover celebrations.
But trying to switch the debate to Jordanian actions, that’s whataboutism.
There are some easy clues. First, if an article is in the NP Comment section, it’s an opinion piece. Second, is the writer a trained journalist? Few media outlets will employ someone as a reporter without J school training. Third, trained journalists are hammered with requirements to explain both sides by virtue of education and editors.
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Do journalists at CNN and Fox explain both sides by virtue of education and editors...they don't...this new age of journalism doesn't bide by those rules anymore...each side pushing for their own agenda...residents of Gaza suffers from paranoia no matter which side you take...this conflict will never end...Hamas will keep firing those rockets and Israel will hammer them for it...this is a lose-lose-lose situation and residents of Gaza will always pay...
I am in complete agreement with you on the merits of CNN and Fox. Although I rarely watch it, whenever I see MSNBC I get the feeling they are much the same. Most US cable news services play lip service to traditional journalism standards.
For the most part I rely on the BBC, Globe & Mail, Guardian and CBC. There are still some very good newspapers around.
I'm pretty sure there are a number of news outlets that still cover legit facts but anything right now is a mash up of what's benefiting the major news networks...
Taiwan is sovereign by the international law definition. All those ethnic cleanings are illegal by international law. Chill out start and breathing through your nose again. The position of western countries (which is surely driven by intrest) on issues is not what international law is. Not even Israel supreme court of justice can justify proliferation of colonies outside it's borders. You don't need to be a judge at la haye international court of justice to understand that if it's outside of your international recognized border, you are not allowed to create colonies of your own citizens there
What is going on in Israel and Palestine is not that much different that the American Revolution. Britain ran Palestine and limited the number of Jews that could immigrate. They did not form Israel and instead could not control the land grab from the Palestinians and the Jews. The British backed out and the rest is history. The Palestinians are not much different than the aborigines in North America - the settlers drove them out of their lands and took their lands. The only difference is the natives here were put in reservations while the Palestinians refuse to concede.
If you took the time to look at history, Jews under Ottoman and British rule purchased land from their previous owners and until near the end of the British mandate, those Jews that came from Europe were legal immigrants. It is also important to consider that half of Israeli Jews are descended from Ottoman Jews. At a time where the European powers were dividing the former Ottoman Empire into ethno-states (except Iraq - oil), there is no reason why Jews shouldn't have gotten a state just like everyone else (except the Kurds), especially since Jews were the largest ethnic group in Jerusalem even before zionism.
The problem with superficial comparisons are they distract from the reality. You could possibly describe a couple minor similarities between Israel and colonization of North America but there are far more things that are significantly different.
