I stand by what I said. You are not entitled to get a response from someone you havent even met.
Women do not make it very easy for men when it comes to dating.
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So basically, you cannot accept "no" for an answer?
Oh, I absolutely can accept "no", and do, more frequently than I would like. I also provide "no" as an answer, again more frequently than I would like, but I do so out of respect.
How much effort does it take to say "I know we talked about meeting, but unfortunately I don't think we're a match. Good luck to you."? Or, "after our date last night I don't think we're compatible." That's just basic manners. I have found that 4 out of 5 times a lady responds positively to this, even though it isn't perhaps what she wants to hear. The rest simply block me (I assume) and go bitch to their friends.
What I won't do is say "yes, let's meet on Tuesday at Ruth's Chris at 7:00" then not show up or otherwise disappear. That would be uncivilized, and the act of an asshole.
Ghosting isn't "no", it's "fuck you". There's a difference.
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The 20 80 rule isn't true. Many/most females are in relationships and those dudes sure are not in the top 20%.
Most nerdly dudes I know are married off to dudettes who match their looks and nerdly inclinations. Except for one, none of them are in the top 20%, maybe veering towards the bottom 20%. However none of them had women throwing themselves at them.
When it comes to picking up random strange at bars or on the streets, sure I can see the 80 20 thing.
Women notice the top 20% but they will enter relationships and even marry more common Soggoths.
That being said the lower down the pole you are the harder they will make you work for it and the less tolerant they will be to any mistake you make. Also you need to be willing to lower your standards to the point where homosexuality starts to become tempting [except then you are dealing with ugly dudes and you are even worse off]
Thus as someone said above. The key is to meet people naturally via social groups and the like. Where your special kind of freakdom can find someone who digs it.
Sadly I am on the bottom end and my social life doesn't lend itself to meeting da womans. I did have some fortune via POF oddly enough, mostly [pretty much only with Chinese women [northern and central] however POF seems on the way out, fewer and fewer people. Tinder has a structure that just doesn't work to my strengths and last time I went on the other sites they have even fewer people and many were the same. As I go beyond the wrong side of 50 and my standards don't keep pace in dropping I think it might be time to give up completely.
I'd get cats but that is a 15 to 20 year commitment and one I take very seriously. I question my life expectancy. A human understands, a cat wouldn't.
Most nerdly dudes I know are married off to dudettes who match their looks and nerdly inclinations. Except for one, none of them are in the top 20%, maybe veering towards the bottom 20%. However none of them had women throwing themselves at them.
When it comes to picking up random strange at bars or on the streets, sure I can see the 80 20 thing.
Women notice the top 20% but they will enter relationships and even marry more common Soggoths.
That being said the lower down the pole you are the harder they will make you work for it and the less tolerant they will be to any mistake you make. Also you need to be willing to lower your standards to the point where homosexuality starts to become tempting [except then you are dealing with ugly dudes and you are even worse off]
Thus as someone said above. The key is to meet people naturally via social groups and the like. Where your special kind of freakdom can find someone who digs it.
Sadly I am on the bottom end and my social life doesn't lend itself to meeting da womans. I did have some fortune via POF oddly enough, mostly [pretty much only with Chinese women [northern and central] however POF seems on the way out, fewer and fewer people. Tinder has a structure that just doesn't work to my strengths and last time I went on the other sites they have even fewer people and many were the same. As I go beyond the wrong side of 50 and my standards don't keep pace in dropping I think it might be time to give up completely.
I'd get cats but that is a 15 to 20 year commitment and one I take very seriously. I question my life expectancy. A human understands, a cat wouldn't.
It really was... I was literally on LavaLife for 1.5 weeks. I was chatting with ladies right away. My wife was the 3rd lady I spoke with and the first one our schedules aligned for a date... That was it. (I wish I realized it was a hook-up site earlier). My buddy is married to his LL match as well.
Relationships are fraught with nice surprises and disappointments.
Certainly I am no expert but it seems like the OP has to work on himself. Exercise, dress reasonably well, work on your social skills. Confidence will help.
I'm at the point where I realize I have to put in a lot more effort to find a compatible woman, not just a fuck friend.
It would be nice to wake up with someone to share life and the bedroom.
Best relationship in my life lasted 2 years and ended 2018. Best sex, best laughs, best motivation to be the best version of myself. She ended it.
No one since, a couple of fuck friends and SPs. I love women and love pleasing woman and the sex of course is way better than the palm sisters.
I was very surprised last weekend met a woman socially and she was very interested. Had to be at least 20 years younger. The people we were with were surprised as well.
Certainly I am no expert but it seems like the OP has to work on himself. Exercise, dress reasonably well, work on your social skills. Confidence will help.
I'm at the point where I realize I have to put in a lot more effort to find a compatible woman, not just a fuck friend.
It would be nice to wake up with someone to share life and the bedroom.
Best relationship in my life lasted 2 years and ended 2018. Best sex, best laughs, best motivation to be the best version of myself. She ended it.
No one since, a couple of fuck friends and SPs. I love women and love pleasing woman and the sex of course is way better than the palm sisters.
I was very surprised last weekend met a woman socially and she was very interested. Had to be at least 20 years younger. The people we were with were surprised as well.
The dating adventures of an introverted nerd.
I went on a blind date, arranged by a friend. She seemed nice and had a really good job, she was making more money than me at the time. I knew that if I stuck with her my social standing would improve considerably. I felt like a piece of shit, I wasn't attracted to her. Instead of working at building a relationship, I decided to build my business instead and she moved on.
Then I asked a girl whom I was very much attracted to for a date, she agreed and I picked a place to meet - she never showed up. I ran into her by chance over a decade later, her looks had merged with her personality. I've never gone back to that coffee shop.
Then I asked a girl who seemed to be my soulmate. I asked her out and she told me she doesn't go out with someone she'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with. So she started dating a co-worker of mine that looks like Thor. He found her to be too high maintenance and dumped her. He's been a invitee to the exclusive Super Bowl Party I attend, he always was good natured - she has never come up in conversation.
Dating can be tough all round. I went out for a speed walk recently. When I got back there was a group of ladies by the front door. They looked at me strange at first, then one of them said, "how come we never see you". I chatted with them until their ride arrived, one gave me her number and told me to call her. So far, I haven't followed up.
I went on a blind date, arranged by a friend. She seemed nice and had a really good job, she was making more money than me at the time. I knew that if I stuck with her my social standing would improve considerably. I felt like a piece of shit, I wasn't attracted to her. Instead of working at building a relationship, I decided to build my business instead and she moved on.
Then I asked a girl whom I was very much attracted to for a date, she agreed and I picked a place to meet - she never showed up. I ran into her by chance over a decade later, her looks had merged with her personality. I've never gone back to that coffee shop.
Then I asked a girl who seemed to be my soulmate. I asked her out and she told me she doesn't go out with someone she'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with. So she started dating a co-worker of mine that looks like Thor. He found her to be too high maintenance and dumped her. He's been a invitee to the exclusive Super Bowl Party I attend, he always was good natured - she has never come up in conversation.
Dating can be tough all round. I went out for a speed walk recently. When I got back there was a group of ladies by the front door. They looked at me strange at first, then one of them said, "how come we never see you". I chatted with them until their ride arrived, one gave me her number and told me to call her. So far, I haven't followed up.
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That was the great thing about Lavalife -- there was something for everyone. The three categories were friendship/dating, relationships and "intimate encounters" -- no fuss, no muss, no trying to figure out what someone was looking for.
Lavalife changed its platform about 10-12 years ago, and it went from fantastic to absolute shite. Why they did this, I will never know, because that site was cutting edge, even by today's standards. I will take the Lavalife of 2002 over Tinder of 2021 any day.
She could have just said no instead of digging the knife in. Chuck H Norris that's more brutal than an Austrian Death Machine CD.
I suppose, she was making sure I wouldn't ask her again. I sort of worked with her over time, she seemed to go downhill. My hunch is Thor gave her an ass ripping orgasm but he was underwhelmed. I had to work with her her on one occasion and she went on a hateful rant about him. Thor and I drank at the same bar, I stayed out of it.
Thor is actually an interesting dude, with his looks he should be an arrogant prick, he isn't. He suffered from childhood obesity when he started weigh training and let his blond hair grow long. I vouched for him to join the Super Bowl party.
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Or shortly after a couple of kids are born.
If you can't be happy being alone, you'll never be happy.
And you blame women as a population for that?
Yes, you're right, people can have bad manners. I've been ghosted by my boss, health care workers, friends, acquaintances, even family members. People can be rude; it's not cool, but it happens.
Yet you seem to think it's only a problem when women does it to men, in the context of wanting to pick them up and have sex with them.
The best thing i learned in life is to accept rejection. To accept that for some i’m probably uninteresting, ugly and/or stupid. Its so liberating to accept that. It made me score girls that were far out of reach for me 
I agree with Jasmina women are not entitled to respond if they don’t want to. Just move on and smile to other girl. One will eventually be so much into you you’ll stop thinking about any other.
I agree with Jasmina women are not entitled to respond if they don’t want to. Just move on and smile to other girl. One will eventually be so much into you you’ll stop thinking about any other.
