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Is herd immunity to COVID-19 possible? Experts increasingly say no.

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I personally know of 2 people who died this week, and 2 more still in ICU. Some people are so lucky they havent been "touched" yet and can continue to be naive about it. Sigh.
No one is being naive about it. There is something they're not telling us about this virus. Too much sugar coating and you end up with hyper kids.
 

drewstar

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Canadians like plenty of posters here are stupid AF evidently.

The experimental vax doesnt
1. Stop transmission
2. Prevent infection

Since when does someone else’s personal medical information become someone else’s business which is not only a privacy issue but the definition of discrimination?

Texas had 40k fans in a packed outdoor stadium, Jacksonville had 15k fans indoor for UFC 261, Club Liv in Miami Beach has been open for 2 weeks with packed crowds and world famous DJs..yet no super spreader events and people dropping dead like Canadian MSM? #99.98%

Blue states with lockdowns less severe than Canada have not matched red states that are almost essentially “normal” in doing as well across all metrics. Florida never locked down, Sweden and Texas too.

This forum is a microcism of just how gullible and a bunch of uneducated sheep are, the govt could tell of you idiots to put on tampons in your ears tomorrow and over 50% of Canadians wouldnt question it.

Canada and its complicit sheep along with Trudeau/Ford/Tory deserve each other. Covid zero? 75% vaccination? Hahahaha as the saying goes, idiots would rather be told a comfortable lie than believe an uncomfortable truth.
 

lenny2

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Florida never locked down, Sweden and Texas too.
Sweden was a colossal covid19 failure with its herd immunity approach.

That has been discussed ad nauseum, and repeatedly proven, in the threads here discussing Sweden.

I'd suggest searching thread titles with the word "Sweden" in this forum & reading them very carefully with an open mind.
 

drewstar

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Sweden was a colossal covid19 failure with its herd immunity approach.

That has been discussed ad nauseum, and repeatedly proven, in the threads here discussing Sweden.

I'd suggest searching thread titles with the word "Sweden" in this forum & reading them very carefully with an open mind.
Life is normal there and people die everyday. Colossal failure? Only in the eyes of the Canadian sheep where foreigners can see what a joke some of you are.
 
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Life is normal there and people die everyday. Colossal failure? Only in the eyes of the Canadian sheep where foreigners can see what a joke some of you are.
Yup, colossal failure:


As for the irrelevant "people die everyday"...it's so obvious it shouldn't even have been stated. So what?

No, not only "in the eyes of the Canadian sheep" is Sweden seen as a colossal failure. Wrong! It's a view accepted by intelligent people worldwide. Clearly you need to read more & talk less.

You're a sheep.
 
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Canadians like plenty of posters here are stupid AF evidently.

The experimental vax doesnt
1. Stop transmission
2. Prevent infection

Since when does someone else’s personal medical information become someone else’s business which is not only a privacy issue but the definition of discrimination?

Texas had 40k fans in a packed outdoor stadium, Jacksonville had 15k fans indoor for UFC 261, Club Liv in Miami Beach has been open for 2 weeks with packed crowds and world famous DJs..yet no super spreader events and people dropping dead like Canadian MSM? #99.98%

Blue states with lockdowns less severe than Canada have not matched red states that are almost essentially “normal” in doing as well across all metrics. Florida never locked down, Sweden and Texas too.

This forum is a microcism of just how gullible and a bunch of uneducated sheep are, the govt could tell of you idiots to put on tampons in your ears tomorrow and over 50% of Canadians wouldnt question it.

Canada and its complicit sheep along with Trudeau/Ford/Tory deserve each other. Covid zero? 75% vaccination? Hahahaha as the saying goes, idiots would rather be told a comfortable lie than believe an uncomfortable truth.
WARNING! The above post contains false claims with no scientific data to prove his claims. Overall he has a shitty view of life.
 
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Canadians like plenty of posters here are stupid AF evidently.

The experimental vax doesnt
1. Stop transmission
2. Prevent infection

Since when does someone else’s personal medical information become someone else’s business which is not only a privacy issue but the definition of discrimination?

Texas had 40k fans in a packed outdoor stadium, Jacksonville had 15k fans indoor for UFC 261, Club Liv in Miami Beach has been open for 2 weeks with packed crowds and world famous DJs..yet no super spreader events and people dropping dead like Canadian MSM? #99.98%

Blue states with lockdowns less severe than Canada have not matched red states that are almost essentially “normal” in doing as well across all metrics. Florida never locked down, Sweden and Texas too.

This forum is a microcism of just how gullible and a bunch of uneducated sheep are, the govt could tell of you idiots to put on tampons in your ears tomorrow and over 50% of Canadians wouldnt question it.

Canada and its complicit sheep along with Trudeau/Ford/Tory deserve each other. Covid zero? 75% vaccination? Hahahaha as the saying goes, idiots would rather be told a comfortable lie than believe an uncomfortable truth.
DING DING DING DINGALING we have a anti masker covid denier in the house!!!!

"The experimental vax doesnt
1. Stop transmission
2. Prevent infection "

utter nonsense and BULLSHIT!! Just based on your first spillage of crap you are out in the left field as a whack job!
 

NotADcotor

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Sweden did start to implement restrictions. Now they are taking the 3rd wave more seriously.
Back about a year ago I recall they were using chicken manure in parks to keep the kids from gathering during some holiday.
A chicken shit solution sure but still, to say they did nothing is a pure lie.
 

drewstar

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DING DING DING DINGALING we have a anti masker covid denier in the house!!!!

"The experimental vax doesnt
1. Stop transmission
2. Prevent infection "

utter nonsense and BULLSHIT!! Just based on your first spillage of crap you are out in the left field as a whack job!
You are a great example of how stupid this board is. These are indeed facts. It is medically proven that the current experimenta “vaccines” that are NOT FDA approved (meaning zero liability) only lessens severe symptoms.

The mortality rate across all ages is less than 0.02%. The adverse side effect of these experimental “vaccines” is 0.6%. Simple math tells you adverse side effect rate is higher than virus mortality rate. But that doesnt fit mainstream media or govt narratives since they are ALL financially gaining the longer this scamdemic drags on.


In fact, most vaccines don't fully protect against infection, even if they can block symptoms from appearing. As a result, vaccinated people can unknowingly carry and spread pathogens.


Dr Sandeep Tiwari of the medical university confirmed that KGMU medical superintendent Dr Himanshu is among those tested Covid positive. Ironically, most of these doctors had taken both the doses of the vaccine.
 
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The mortality rate across all ages is less than 0.02%. The adverse side effect of these experimental “vaccines” is 0.6%. Simple math tells you adverse side effect rate is higher than virus mortality rate. But that doesnt fit mainstream media or govt narratives since they are ALL financially gaining the longer this scamdemic drags on.
Oh. This should be good.
Evidence for those two numbers?
 

drewstar

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Oh. This should be good.
Evidence for those two numbers?
See below. Keep in mind that neurological side effects are the major ones which we cannot see yet (good or bad) simply because it takes 6 months to 2 years before we have a more accurate sample size.There are labels on the experimental vax that cleary states “not for pregnant women or children under 12”. Yet MSM and govt keep promoting 7FDA148D-5AFC-43E0-9D25-5B94A853033A.jpeg


Of 133,883 cases of adverse reactions with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines reported by March 9, the researchers identified 844 (0.6%) events related to facial paralysis. These included 683 cases of facial paralysis, 168 cases of facial paresis, 25 cases of facial spasms, and 13 cases of facial nerve disorders (some adverse events were co-reported).
 

Valcazar

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See below. Keep in mind that neurological side effects are the major ones which we cannot see yet (good or bad) simply because it takes 6 months to 2 years before we have a more accurate sample size.There are labels on the experimental vax that cleary states “not for pregnant women or children under 12”. Yet MSM and govt keep promoting View attachment 43432


Of 133,883 cases of adverse reactions with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines reported by March 9, the researchers identified 844 (0.6%) events related to facial paralysis. These included 683 cases of facial paralysis, 168 cases of facial paresis, 25 cases of facial spasms, and 13 cases of facial nerve disorders (some adverse events were co-reported).

So you have an estimate of deaths taken from the middle of last year and are comparing it to the rate of a completely different outcome from a much more recent paper.
Good job on at least using data from actual studies (I checked for your chart since it looks like you grabbed it from the internet but it has an actual source that exists.)
Now you just need to move to the point where you compare apples to apples.
 

drewstar

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So you have an estimate of deaths taken from the middle of last year and are comparing it to the rate of a completely different outcome from a much more recent paper.
Good job on at least using data from actual studies (I checked for your chart since it looks like you grabbed it from the internet but it has an actual source that exists.)
Now you just need to move to the point where you compare apples to apples.
You are free to believe what you want. But take a step back and look at all the restrictions that dont make sense, continuous moving goal posts, and no clear objective that is realistic.

This is a medical dictatorship for a virus with a 99.98% survival rate. Collateral damage from postponed surgeries and kids without proper social interaction. Bankrupt small businesses. Guess those lives dont matter eh? All under the guise of public health “for your own good”.

Cat is out the bag, many see this already. Always follow the money because all those dragging this out gain financially. Believing the govt cares for our health is the first mistake many make. Have a nice life.
 
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Most sheep here are too blind to see:

-a good amount of doctors and health experts against lockdowns because they are censored.

-nurses against msm being silenced.

Are they breathing different types of oxygen in Florida, Texas, Sweden etc?

Sheep will see this through to the bitter end because its more comforting to not know youve been fooled like a dummy.
 
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