2020-21 Maple Leafs Thread

gcostanza

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Don't get me wrong, I'm mad Hyman is out. But goon retribution isn't the answer., popping 2 or 3 goals on the 5 min PP would be the answer. The response of winning the next game is the answer. The Leafs should come out blowout the Canucks tonight.
It's not about retribution only, it's about deterrence.
How many games have Leaf goalies missed because they get knocked around in the crease?
They could score ten goals on the power play, it doesn't make up for all the games he would miss,
how the team would be impacted long term.
 

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It was more in the context of the fact glamphatographer made it seem like it’s somewhat common.
Thanks for clarifying - with that context your post makes perfect sense and as I said I should not have made the assumption I did.

My intent was not to sidetrack this thread (although as a Hab's fan maybe that was really part of my evil plan all along)
 
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It's not about retribution only, it's about deterrence.
How many games have Leaf goalies missed because they get knocked around in the crease?
They could score ten goals on the power play, it doesn't make up for all the games he would miss,
how the team would be impacted long term.
What’s worse, no deterrence for a dirty hit that put out one of your players, or no accountability for being late to a team meeting ?

I’ll say this up front, I don’t care if Willy scores a hat trick and its a blow out win, a bad precedence has been set. If you’re not gonna suspend him why dressed him in a scratch jersey in practice? My guess is that Keefe wanted to bench him for one game as disciplinary action but was overruled by Dubas.
 
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What’s worse, no deterrence for a dirty hit that put out one of your players, or no accountability for being late to a team meeting ?

I’ll say this up front, I don’t care if Willy scores a hat trick and its a blow out win, a bad precedence has been set. If you’re not gonna suspend him why dressed him in a scratch jersey in practice? My guess is that Keefe wanted to bench him for one game as disciplinary action but was overruled by Dubas.
What would you say to Keefe? Nylander led the Leafs in ice time in the first period.

Aside from that he seemed to be the best Leaf on the ice and he totally created that first goal by Tavares. It was a gimme.
 

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Congratulations to Jim Hughson. He is the first play-by-play man that I’ve heard to use a Lord Of The Rings character as a verb. During the first period of tonight’s game he said a Canuck player “Sméagol-Ed” past a Leaf. I rewound to check it, and that is indeed the term he used.
 
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Congratulations to Jim Hughson. He is the first play-by-play man that I’ve heard to use a Lord Of The Rings character as a verb. During the first period of tonight’s game he said a Canuck player “Sméagol-Ed” past a Leaf. I rewound to check it, and that is indeed the term he used.
He is clearly the best hockey play-by-play man, even when saddled with the human sleep aid, Craig Simpson.
 

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What would you say to Keefe? Nylander led the Leafs in ice time in the first period.

Aside from that he seemed to be the best Leaf on the ice and he totally created that first goal by Tavares. It was a gimme.
If your boss wants you to play him, you the coach play him a ton and hope for his best game as you don’t want to embarrass your boss.

Any player with any kind of dignity would want to play the best game of his life in Willy’s situation so it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that he plays good.

I’m looking at this situation more so from a management’s perspective and question if is it a good decision to forgo a disciplinary action and at the risk of setting a bad precedence for the sake of giving your team a better chance to win against one of the worse teams ? What does that say about your confidence in the other players ? Why put him in a grey jersey in practice and let the whole world know that he screwed up but he walks free ?

What happens to the next guy who misses a team meeting ? You discipline him and set up a double standard or you let him play and hope for his best game ? Where’s the accountability?
 

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Riddich is not an answer. Leafs need to ride Campbell as much as possible until Freddie returns. And even then we need to keep our fingers crossed.
 

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Riddich is not an answer. Leafs need to ride Campbell as much as possible until Freddie returns. And even then we need to keep our fingers crossed.
Bringing Andersen back would require $5 million in cap space and that would cause major problems.
He's probably on the "we need the cap space" LTIR until the playoffs start, when there's no longer a salary cap.
 

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Bringing Andersen back would require $5 million in cap space and that would cause major problems.
He's probably on the "we need the cap space" LTIR until the playoffs start, when there's no longer a salary cap.
But Andersen can play a few games with Marlies coming off an injury as a conditioning stint. Just before the playoffs start. Somehow I think Andersen isn't coming back.
 

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Bringing Andersen back would require $5 million in cap space...
Putting Andersen on the active roster (today) would require ~$776,000 in cap space.
Problem? Toronto has ~$121,000 (today) in available cap space.
Brandon Pridham will earn his salary doing acrobatics, should the Maple Leafs want to do this.
 
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Well that blew up in my face - they start DR33 and you saw the results. WOW. Another chance? This goaltending situation is a mess - we need Rask. That trade still haunts me - imagine if we just kept him.....Argh!
 

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Clearly the issue is in goaltending the last few games. Their PP was bad but they were still winning. Goaltending is the most important position so if you're referring to Leafs needing to "figure it out" then yes they'll need to figure out the goaltending.
Their PP did look better last game though. Excellent screen by Nylander on the Tavares goal.
Looks like Rittich does indeed have some Hutch in him. Cambpell looks to have lost his mojo last 3 games or so.
When Leafs had their extended losing streak before this it was Andersen playing injured and playing terrible so goaltending again.
 
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Zach Bogosian will be out 'some time' according to Sheldon Keefe.
 

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Zach Bogosian will be out 'some time' according to Sheldon Keefe.
Yep as I predicted not the Leafs year, injuries pile up before the playoffs, bad goaltending at a bad time, and just overall bad luck. Another 1st round exit. Leafs may as well go on 10 game losing streak, it wouldn't matter who they play in the playoffs, they're done. I wonder if this is the last year for Dubas?
 

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Putting Andersen on the active roster (today) would require ~$776,000 in cap space.
Problem? Toronto has ~$121,000 (today) in available cap space.
Brandon Pridham will earn his salary doing acrobatics, should the Maple Leafs want to do this.
I appreciate Prindham's expertise with this stuff and that cap management is a big part of the new landscape, but I've lost a lot interest in the game because of it.
It's just fucked up that you have to sit your starting goalie until the playoffs and move players in and the constant moving players in and out hoping that some discard will catch fire with the team.
The blue and white will always be in my heart but it doesn't feel the same.

I don't know if anyone feels the same or I just grew up in a different time.
 

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I don't think that either Campbell or Rittich are the answer. We need Freddy back in form if we want to make a playoff run. And we need to start crashing and banging more in the offensive zone. Foligno will definitely help in that regard.
I think at this point we can say sayonara to Jumbo. He is providing no benefit to the team on the ice. I'd like to see him added to the coaching staff however.
 
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