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Matt Gaetz Under Investigation For Possible Sexual Relations With Teenager: Report

mandrill

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IIRC Gaetz also reminded Fucker that Fuck and Fuck's lady wife has met the little tramp who is at least 1 of the subjects of the investigation and had dinner with her. Fuck's generally dim-witted and confused poker face didn't flinch, but I'm sure THAT didn't go over well with the TV folks. šŸ˜§ :D :confused:šŸ¦Ž
 

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Buzz off...I gave no indication that I was cheering for a girl to be trafficked.
I stand corrected. You did not cheer for a girl to be trafficked. You just hoped she was
 

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IIRC Gaetz also reminded Fucker that Fuck and Fuck's lady wife has met the little tramp who is at least 1 of the subjects of the investigation and had dinner with her. Fuck's generally dim-witted and confused poker face didn't flinch, but I'm sure THAT didn't go over well with the TV folks. šŸ˜§ :D :confused:šŸ¦Ž
Take a deeeeeep breath.
 

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I stand corrected. You did not cheer for a girl to be trafficked. You just hoped she was
With no evidence released, zero facts, don't even know who the girl is, don't even know if it happened...you quickly jumped on the worst case scenario.
 

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Age of consent in FL is 18 years of age. An adult doing a 17 year old commits statutory rape in FL. If Gaetz did 17 year olds, he is one dumb-ass guy.

Am also hearing that under the crazy-as-fuck, sex-hating US prostitution laws, providing ANY VALUE IN RETURN FOR SEX is sex trafficking in the US - incl paying for hotel rooms, airline tickets, shopping sprees. If Gaetz did this, I feel more sorry for the poor fuck than anything else, although the irony is inescapable. Andrew McCarthy is already throwing Gaetz under the bus and suggesting G will be disowned.
 

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Age of consent in FL is 18 years of age. An adult doing a 17 year old commits statutory rape in FL. If Gaetz did 17 year olds, he is one dumb-ass guy.

Am also hearing that under the crazy-as-fuck, sex-hating US prostitution laws, providing ANY VALUE IN RETURN FOR SEX is sex trafficking in the US - incl paying for hotel rooms, airline tickets, shopping sprees. If Gaetz did this, I feel more sorry for the poor fuck than anything else, although the irony is inescapable. Andrew McCarthy is already throwing Gaetz under the bus and suggesting G will be disowned.
I'm not feeling sorry at all for the dumb fuck! I'm actually loving every minute of watching the stress on his face age him with every interview.
 
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Let's hope no Labrador Retrievers were harmed in producing this drama...
 

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Am also hearing that under the crazy-as-fuck, sex-hating US prostitution laws, providing ANY VALUE IN RETURN FOR SEX is sex trafficking in the US - incl paying for hotel rooms, airline tickets, shopping sprees.
I would not be that optimistic that the corresponding Canadian "exploitative relationship" test is that different from US "crazy-as-fuck" .

How hard is it for a judge to find something like... On one side of the scale, we have a man in his fifties with considerable life experience and access to money and drugs, who lives in his own apartment. On the other, we have a sixteen-year-old unemployed high school student who initially lived with her parents, subsequently had no home, and then lived with a boyfriend, is addicted to drugs, has unsuccessfully undergone an intensive drug rehabilitation program, has no meaningful access to money and therefore no access to drugs, and has self-esteem and mental health issues. Given these parameters, I am comfortable in concluding a power imbalance did exist in this relationship, and that the scales were tipped heavily in favour of the appellant.
 
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I would not be that optimistic that the corresponding Canadian "exploitative relationship" test is that different from US "crazy-as-fuck" .

How hard is it for a judge to find something like... On one side of the scale, we have a man in his fifties with considerable life experience and access to money and drugs, who lives in his own apartment. On the other, we have a sixteen-year-old unemployed high school student who initially lived with her parents, subsequently had no home, and then lived with a boyfriend, is addicted to drugs, has unsuccessfully undergone an intensive drug rehabilitation program, has no meaningful access to money and therefore no access to drugs, and has self-esteem and mental health issues. Given these parameters, I am comfortable in concluding a power imbalance did exist in this relationship, and that the scales were tipped heavily in favour of the appellant.
But that's a sexual exploitation case where the older guy was in a position of authority over a 16 year old girl - i.e. she and her mom lived w him. He was a kind of step dad.
 

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no it's actually from a diff case https://www.canlii.org/en/nb/nbca/doc/2015/2015nbca10/2015nbca10.html
there was no living together/stepdad circumstances
The cases are very interesting. In the 2nd case, the court used the fact that the older guy exploited the teenaged girl's drug addiction to exchange sex for drugs and $$$ to establish an "exploitative relationship" with "influence and control".

Gaetz is not 50 years old. However, if the girl is dependent on him for $$$, it could also set up the exploitation offence if it happened here in Canada. I'm not sure that simply buying the girl stuff would necessarily do it, if the girl was financially independent - i.e. had parents who were paying for her. But how likely would that be?
 

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The cases are very interesting. In the 2nd case, the court used the fact that the older guy exploited the teenaged girl's drug addiction to exchange sex for drugs and $$$ to establish an "exploitative relationship" with "influence and control".

Gaetz is not 50 years old. However, if the girl is dependent on him for $$$, it could also set up the exploitation offence if it happened here in Canada. I'm not sure that simply buying the girl stuff would necessarily do it, if the girl was financially independent - i.e. had parents who were paying for her. But how likely would that be?
in todays political climate any 50yo or even 35yo hooking up with a teenager will look repugnant and deserving punishment. This type of case would be fun to argue but would not be fun to be on trial for.
You are calling US crazy sex haters, but we live in a country where child porn cartoons are criminalized and minimum for simple possession of a cartoon is 6 months jail. As is porn where adults try to look like children. Canada has it's own share of piousness.
 
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