Anonymous eTransfer Methods / Does Paying Up Front Aid with Screening?

[Open Wide]

What are the various ways you can send money to a SW without it being attached to your name at all?

I'm sure some indy girls are pretty rigorous and inflexible with their screening process and screening isn't about payment, but nevertheless is it likely that in some instances if you send some or all of the money in advance that would suffice for some girls in the business?

 

[TeeJay]

Bitcoin?

You should never transfer funds upfront anyways though

 

[contact]

don't send money upfront unless you enjoy getting scammed by sketchy SPs

 

[GeeBee]

Ask her if she will accept one of the following.

Prepaid Visa or MC. Take a pic of the front and back and send to the SP, you pay for the card in cash
E-gift card from Amazon or similar. Create an Amazon account using an alias name and your pooning email and make the info vague. Use the prepaid CC as above to pay Amazon. Or you can "fund" your Amazon account using cash now at some retailers. 7-11 I think.

I understand why SW's are asking for deposits, both to screen out the time wasters and discourage no-shows. I have provided a deposit to ladies I'm seeing for the first time, but I would only send something to a well reviewed and well known indy. Use the usual techniques to make sure the girl is ligit and you should be ok.

 

[TeeJay]

@GeeBee prepaid credit card is useless since no way to refund it after the fact
Canada Post can fund a prepay credit card or you can link a prepay credit card to your cheque account

 

[y2kmark]

Cast your bread upon the waters and it will be returned to you a hundred fold - or not...

 

[squeezer]

Bitcoin?

You should never transfer funds upfront anyways though

don't send money upfront unless you enjoy getting scammed by sketchy SPs

NOOOOOOO, fuck!! My day is completely ruined and I'm going for a check-up right away agreeing with these two.

 

[onomatopoeia]

I make a small amount of money through PayPal. They sent me this by e-mail in November, 2017:

"We’re writing to notify you that we have received a Federal Court order requiring us to disclose information to the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) about PayPal Business account holders who sent or received a payment between January 1, 2014, and November 10, 2017. To comply with the order, PayPal Canada will make a disclosure to the CRA within 45 days of the date of the order." There is nothing significant about that time period to me.

I think the words "Business account holders " are significant. If they meant to say all account holders, but neglected to so do, a Judge should rule in favour of the defendant on that basis alone. I'm no lawyer, but I have seen the egg eating contest in Cool Hand Luke. Dragline says "When it comes to the law, nothin'' is understood", meaning that something must be stated specifically, rather than implied or assumed.

 

[contact]

NOOOOOOO, fuck!! My day is completely ruined and I'm going for a check-up right away agreeing with these two.

That’s ok maybe just maybe your coming to the right side!

 

[luvyeah]

I've send deposits to few SPs that advertise here on Terb with reviews and that usually doesn't exceed $100. Of course they can scam you, but its better than sending personal info and second best to a reference. It can't be profitable in the long run to pay for advertising here where people are know to review escorts. The first time they scam someone it will be written on here.

Also I don't toftt with deposits, someone reputable has to have written something first or a recommendation from another SP before I take such a risk.

Twitter and leolist is different because often these clients don't even know about boards.

Etrasnfer can sometimes reveal both your name and the receivers name, it seems to vary from bank to bank.

 

[Brolaf]

What are the various ways you can send money to a SW without it being attached to your name at all?

I'm sure some indy girls are pretty rigorous and inflexible with their screening process and screening isn't about payment, but nevertheless is it likely that in some instances if you send some or all of the money in advance that would suffice for some girls in the business?

Because of anti-money laundering regulations there isn't an easy way to send money (other than physical cash or maybe crypto) that doesn't require your name attached to it. I think that if you're concerned enough about privacy that you don't trust your personal info with a particular SP then you should probably look for a different provider. Trying to find some convoluted workaround simply isn't worth your time and effort and from the SPs perspective she might look kinda weird or suspicious too if she's used to just receiving a simple e-transfer deposit.

 

[DDluvr123]

What are the various ways you can send money to a SW without it being attached to your name at all?

I'm sure some indy girls are pretty rigorous and inflexible with their screening process and screening isn't about payment, but nevertheless is it likely that in some instances if you send some or all of the money in advance that would suffice for some girls in the business?

Never ever pay upfront or send a deposit to unverified providers period

 

[Open Wide]

Ask her if she will accept one of the following.

Prepaid Visa or MC. Take a pic of the front and back and send to the SP, you pay for the card in cash
E-gift card from Amazon or similar. Create an Amazon account using an alias name and your pooning email and make the info vague. Use the prepaid CC as above to pay Amazon. Or you can "fund" your Amazon account using cash now at some retailers. 7-11 I think.

I understand why SW's are asking for deposits, both to screen out the time wasters and discourage no-shows. I have provided a deposit to ladies I'm seeing for the first time, but I would only send something to a well reviewed and well known indy. Use the usual techniques to make sure the girl is ligit and you should be ok.

Thanks for everyone's replies. I realize it's risky but it's something I'm interested in experimenting with and I'm OK to lose some money in the worst case scenario. God knows we lose money hand over fist every time we pick the wrong provider to see! I would absolutely do as you suggest: seeing someone well known and well reviewed so I don't think it would be a massive risk...

So with a prepaid Visa if I understand correctly I can just buy it in cash, and then if I simply text a picture of the front and back of whatever Visa thing you get that has all the info the girl needs to use the Visa for anything she wishes? She doesn't need the physical receipt / card / whatever at all?... just a screenshot of front and back is all that's required? Is that something most girls in the business are already aware of and you wouldn't need to convince them it's legit?

I think a Visa card would be closer to cash than an Amazon card since there are more places you can use a Visa. I wonder if any girls would actually prefer an Amazon card over a Visa card?

From the sounds of it however there's no way to actually send money straight up without your name attached to it?

 

[GeeBee]

Thanks for everyone's replies. I realize it's risky but it's something I'm interested in experimenting with and I'm OK to lose some money in the worst case scenario. God knows we lose money hand over fist every time we pick the wrong provider to see! I would absolutely do as you suggest: seeing someone well known and well reviewed so I don't think it would be a massive risk...

So with a prepaid Visa if I understand correctly I can just buy it in cash, and then if I simply text a picture of the front and back of whatever Visa thing you get that has all the info the girl needs to use the Visa for anything she wishes? She doesn't need the physical receipt / card / whatever at all?... just a screenshot of front and back is all that's required? Is that something most girls in the business are already aware of and you wouldn't need to convince them it's legit?

I think a Visa card would be closer to cash than an Amazon card since there are more places you can use a Visa. I wonder if any girls would actually prefer an Amazon card over a Visa card?

From the sounds of it however there's no way to actually send money straight up without your name attached to it?

Yes, it would seem that your name will be attached to any transfer of actual money, and it will also leave a trail on your end if you are trying to keep this activity quiet on the home front.

I don't know how many girls will accept the prepaid CC, but I know some do. Best to simply ask the lady in question. The advantage of the Amazon e-gift card (for the recipient) is that once she gets it it's hers and hers alone, there is no way anyone else can spend it. With the CC I guess it is possible for a client to send the same pic to more than one person. She would need to spend it right away to ensure the $$ was hers. I believe there are ones that allow the user to set a pin on the card but I'm not certain.

You can buy literally anything on Amazon these days so it's not exactly cash but close. Some providers will also accept e-gift cards from specific retailers, just ask what she'd like and pay for it using the prepaid CC to keep your name out of it.

Let us know how you make out.

 

[Open Wide]

Yes, it would seem that your name will be attached to any transfer of actual money, and it will also leave a trail on your end if you are trying to keep this activity quiet on the home front.

I don't know how many girls will accept the prepaid CC, but I know some do. Best to simply ask the lady in question. The advantage of the Amazon e-gift card (for the recipient) is that once she gets it it's hers and hers alone, there is no way anyone else can spend it. With the CC I guess it is possible for a client to send the same pic to more than one person. She would need to spend it right away to ensure the $$ was hers. I believe there are ones that allow the user to set a pin on the card but I'm not certain.

You can buy literally anything on Amazon these days so it's not exactly cash but close. Some providers will also accept e-gift cards from specific retailers, just ask what she'd like and pay for it using the prepaid CC to keep your name out of it.

Let us know how you make out.

That makes a lot of sense thanks for explaining. Yes I guess since you can send the same pics to anyone they may not feel so assured with the CC pics...

I was reading today about a SW who accepts the following methods of payment, some of which I'm not familiar with, but presumably any and all of these come with your name attached?

- Venmo
- Zelle
- Cash App
- Pay Pal
- Apple Pay

 

[y2kmark]

I've send deposits to few SPs that advertise here on Terb with reviews and that usually doesn't exceed $100. Of course they can scam you, but its better than sending personal info and second best to a reference. It can't be profitable in the long run to pay for advertising here where people are know to review escorts. The first time they scam someone it will be written on here.

Also I don't toftt with deposits, someone reputable has to have written something first or a recommendation from another SP before I take such a risk.

Twitter and leolist is different because often these clients don't even know about boards.

Etrasnfer can sometimes reveal both your name and the receivers name, it seems to vary from bank to bank.

Most SPs are honest, or at least realize that the potential for a longer term income stream outweighs the temptation of a quick score. It does add an additional layer of complexity to the hobby, though...

 

[GeeBee]

That makes a lot of sense thanks for explaining. Yes I guess since you can send the same pics to anyone they may not feel so assured with the CC pics...

I was reading today about a SW who accepts the following methods of payment, some of which I'm not familiar with, but presumably any and all of these come with your name attached?

- Venmo
- Zelle
- Cash App
- Pay Pal
- Apple Pay

Most of those do link somehow to a bank account. There are legitimate reasons (unrelated to sex work) for why it's difficult to send $$ anonymously, mainly to do with anti money laundering and terrorist financing laws as mentioned by other posters. We innocent gentlemen and the ladies we see are simply caught in the crossfire here, but I totally understand why you are concerned. I completely agree.

It is possible to create a Pay Pal account under a different name, however Pay Pal are becoming increasingly unfriendly to sex work and there are instances where the accounts have been seized along with any $$ in them. It's all related to the recent ridiculous and puritanical laws in the US. Both the SP's and the accounts of clients who may have paid her have been targeted. There are several old threads on the boards regarding this topic.

IMO go with Amazon e-GC's where possible. The account can be the most anonymous on your end and you can use an alias. I hate to say that given their recent practices of treating their workforce like shit, and if I anyone here on TERB finds a better solution to this problem I'd be very happy.

 

[Kracker]

Actually seems like a profitable opportunity for Terb - some way to deposit money anonymously. I remember once trying figure out the "dark web" and having to make three bitcoin purchases of small items before you could actually buy anything like weed. Gave up on it as too much trouble, but I'd probably transfer money to Terb for transfer to an SP before transferring directly to an SP.

Eventually we'll all have to figure out crypto - SPs are now the ONLY reason I ever have cash and that can't be a great long-term setup.

 

[TeeJay]

I make a small amount of money through PayPal. They sent me this by e-mail in November, 2017:

"We’re writing to notify you that we have received a Federal Court order requiring us to disclose information to the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) about PayPal Business account holders who sent or received a payment between January 1, 2014, and November 10, 2017. To comply with the order, PayPal Canada will make a disclosure to the CRA within 45 days of the date of the order." There is nothing significant about that time period to me.

I think the words "Business account holders " are significant. If they meant to say all account holders, but neglected to so do, a Judge should rule in favour of the defendant on that basis alone. I'm no lawyer, but I have seen the egg eating contest in Cool Hand Luke. Dragline says "When it comes to the law, nothin'' is understood", meaning that something must be stated specifically, rather than implied or assumed.

PayPal has made so many changes to legal agreements over the years I suspect those dates were not chosen at random by CRA

 

[luvyeah]

Actually seems like a profitable opportunity for Terb - some way to deposit money anonymously. I remember once trying figure out the "dark web" and having to make three bitcoin purchases of small items before you could actually buy anything like weed. Gave up on it as too much trouble, but I'd probably transfer money to Terb for transfer to an SP before transferring directly to an SP.

Eventually we'll all have to figure out crypto - SPs are now the ONLY reason I ever have cash and that can't be a great long-term setup.

Interestingly there was a startup "PinkDate" that would solve this issue. I think its now be defunct, I was considering finacially supporting it through ICO. Maybe due to the nature of the buisness and anonymity it was just a scam from the start. I'm not sure, interesting idea nevertheless.

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