What is the best area in Montreal to get an apartment to live the "Chester Brown lifestyle'"?

[MrPrezident]

Again circling back to the "playboy pad" original topic, it seems to be cheaper to rent a condo in Toronto and cheaper to buy a condo in Montreal. Toronto may be temporarily overbuilt with condos that were used for short-term rentals. There is less need to live near an office for 5 or 6 days a week commutes.

Ontario politicos seem to think the answer to too high prices is to mostly supress demand by the prohibition of short-term rentals and putting the 15% tax on foreigners. These strategies may likely backfire and discourage developers.

Montreal seems to be once again encouraging more supply of condos to be built. Montreal may be opening up to the world again.

On a federal level proposed initiatives like putting capital gains taxes on sale of principal residences and putting a federal tax on foreigners may suppress some demand but will do nothing to increase the supply of both family homes and playboy condos.

If you want something to succeed - tax it less. This applies both to both housing supply and legal cannabis.

Maybe the US should put a special real estate tax on Canadian snowbirds until the ON and BC real estate taxes are repealed. Better still, how about getting back to friendship and free trade again?

NEXT CHAPTER -
1. CONDO "PLAYBOY PADS" WITH A POOL - ROOFTOP vs MID LEVEL vs GROUND LEVEL - Has anybody ever done any porking in the condo or hotel pool or hot tub?
2. Montreal balconies seem to be wider than in Toronto. How can anybody eat breakast, smoke weed, or do some serious lounging on the lounge on a 3 ft balcony on the 36th floor? We are looking to Bbw hunter for some deep insights here.

 

[Darts]

2. Montreal balconies seem to be wider than in Toronto. How can anybody eat breakast, smoke weed, or do some serious lounging on the lounge on a 3 ft balcony on the 36th floor? We are looking to Bbw hunter for some deep insights here.

There was a play named "Balconville". Some people in Montreal virtually live on their balcony.

Don't tell anybody, when I first arrived in Toronto I bought a condo on Dundonald street for "private" enjoyment. A man needs his private time and private pleasures.

 

[EntertainmentMan2000]

Old Montreal is the place you are exactly looking for and hits off all the requirements on your checklist.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Plateau Mont Royal is very close to the down town core. It is a middle income neighborhood with apartments and condos to suit your needs.

 

[Darts]

Plateau Mont Royal is very close to the down town core. It is a middle income neighborhood with apartments and condos to suit your needs.

Plateau Mount Royal is close but I wouldn't say "very" close to downtown. Mostly French when I was still living in Montreal.

I spent some time at the Henri Richard tavern (closed) which wasn't far from McGill. The Plateau would be farther north and east.
Henri Richard's Tavern closes in 1986 - YouTube

 

[Valcazar]

Plateau Mount Royal is close but I wouldn't say "very" close to downtown. Mostly French when I was still living in Montreal.

Still very French.

 

[Darts]

Still very French.

If I remember correctly, they were the first to allow BYOB (no, it doesn't mean "bring your own broad").

 

[Valcazar]

If I remember correctly, they were the first to allow BYOB (no, it doesn't mean "bring your own broad").

It doesn't!?
No wonder I kept getting thrown out of those restaurants.

 

[Darts]

"If you are seeking nightlife, outdoor sidewalk cafes, diverse restaurants and a boutique shopping experience in Montreal, the Latin Quartier checks all those boxes. All generations can be found in the Latin Quartier as well as languages spoken. French, English, Spanish, German and Chinese to name a few. I enjoyed eating at Saint=Houblin-Quartier Latin restaurant and had drinks at Le Salut Back. Wall murals and street art add to the artistic ambience of the Quartier. During the spring, summer and fall the streets are bussing with tourists, locals and college students. The University of Quebec and Montreal has a campus in the Latin Quartier. Inns and hotels are plentiful but check them out for your suitability. The higher end hotels are in downtown Montreal."

BTW: The Gay Village is just a bit east of the Latin Quarter.

 

[Valcazar]

"If you are seeking nightlife, outdoor sidewalk cafes, diverse restaurants and a boutique shopping experience in Montreal, the Latin Quartier checks all those boxes. All generations can be found in the Latin Quartier as well as languages spoken. French, English, Spanish, German and Chinese to name a few. I enjoyed eating at Saint=Houblin-Quartier Latin restaurant and had drinks at Le Salut Back. Wall murals and street art add to the artistic ambience of the Quartier. During the spring, summer and fall the streets are bussing with tourists, locals and college students. The University of Quebec and Montreal has a campus in the Latin Quartier. Inns and hotels are plentiful but check them out for your suitability. The higher end hotels are in downtown Montreal."

Latin quarter is great but the apartments are mostly shit.
There are probably some that have been renovated recently though - those might be good.

 

[jalimon]

Plateau Mont Royal is very close to the down town core. It is a middle income neighborhood with apartments and condos to suit your needs.

I live about 30 minutes north of Montreal. Plateau is where I would go. Around mt-royal street. Yes it's quite french but the vibe is still awesome.

I found the old port area too touristy. I like Griffintown. It's only a short walk from downtown. Seriously there's often more action in Griffintown then downtown
Except for all the festivals near the place des festival downtown.

I am currently looking at buying a condo and I chose the parc jarry area (big park where they play the annual WTE tennis tournement. Lot's of new condo developement. New bars/restaurant are slowly popping. Subway close by. Close to airport and north of montreal when I want to play golf

Cheers,

 

[Valcazar]

I am currently looking at buying a condo and I chose the parc jarry area (big park where they play the annual WTE tennis tournement. Lot's of new condo developement. New bars/restaurant are slowly popping. Subway close by. Close to airport and north of montreal when I want to play golf

Jarry is a good area.

 

[decoy2673]

Again circling back to the "playboy pad" original topic, it seems to be cheaper to rent a condo in Toronto and cheaper to buy a condo in Montreal. Toronto may be temporarily overbuilt with condos that were used for short-term rentals. There is less need to live near an office for 5 or 6 days a week commutes.

Ontario politicos seem to think the answer to too high prices is to mostly supress demand by the prohibition of short-term rentals and putting the 15% tax on foreigners. These strategies may likely backfire and discourage developers.

Montreal seems to be once again encouraging more supply of condos to be built. Montreal may be opening up to the world again.

On a federal level proposed initiatives like putting capital gains taxes on sale of principal residences and putting a federal tax on foreigners may suppress some demand but will do nothing to increase the supply of both family homes and playboy condos.

If you want something to succeed - tax it less. This applies both to both housing supply and legal cannabis.

Maybe the US should put a special real estate tax on Canadian snowbirds until the ON and BC real estate taxes are repealed. Better still, how about getting back to friendship and free trade again?

NEXT CHAPTER -
1. CONDO "PLAYBOY PADS" WITH A POOL - ROOFTOP vs MID LEVEL vs GROUND LEVEL - Has anybody ever done any porking in the condo or hotel pool or hot tub?
2. Montreal balconies seem to be wider than in Toronto. How can anybody eat breakast, smoke weed, or do some serious lounging on the lounge on a 3 ft balcony on the 36th floor? We are looking to Bbw hunter for some deep insights here.

i own a condo in toronto and my family owns 3 houses in GTA so i benefit from rising real estate

that said fuck the foreign buyers.

make the fucking foreign buyer tax 99%. home grown canadians shouldnt be renting their whole lives from foreigners thats so backwards.

 

[Darts]

I chose the parc jarry area (big park where they play the annual WTE tennis tournement. Lot's of new condo developement. New bars/restaurant are slowly popping. Subway close by.

Is this the same Parc Jarry in Park Extension where the Expos use to play MLB baseball?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

The old Angus Shops train depot is being developed. There will be scads of condos and apartments for sale there for the next three years. The plateau is next to downtown ( 10 minutes car or bike ride away from the downtown core ) and the Angus shops is next to the plateau. (5 minutes car or bike ride from the plateau ) If you want something new then the Angus Shops development is for you.

Residents of Montreal’s redeveloped Angus Shops resistant to more change

The redevelopment has been a huge success. But plans for a Phase 2 have been met with flak from irate homeowners

www.theglobeandmail.com

A brand-new neighbourhood in the heart of Montreal - Cité Angus

cite-angus.com

 

[MrPrezident]

i own a condo in toronto and my family owns 3 houses in GTA so i benefit from rising real estate

that said fuck the foreign buyers.

make the fucking foreign buyer tax 99%. home grown canadians shouldnt be renting their whole lives from foreigners thats so backwards.

This is a great leap of illogic. You are throwing the baby out with the bath water. A few foreign buyers who want to buy a house in Toronto and not be ripped off by a 15% tax are not causing Canadians to be forced to rent from foreigners.

As Curly of the Three Stooges would say to this thought disorder, "Woo woo woo woo woo!"

I congratulate you for having smart parents who bought a house in Toronto years ago.

1. Canadian sunbirds are not singled out for special punishment when they buy a house in Florida or Arizona. Other Canadians might enjoy a cottage in the US Thousand Islands area or a ski condo in Vail. Support freedom. Except for a few noted exceptions I think Americans like Canadians and Canadians like Americans.
2. Years ago a friend of mine accepted a transfer from the US to Toronto for Otis Elevators. He had special talents and abilities that helped builders create far more housing supply here. A person like that and his family might not take that transfer today. A company today might need to pay far more in compensation to offset the punitive housing surtax.
3. Short-term condo rentals sidestep reasonable hotel regulations and may intrude on the quiet enjoyment of condo owners in a building. I know Canadian owners of multiple Airbnb type condos in Toronto whose cash flows went negative and they sold their condos when the new 28 day rental rule was passed. I shed no tears for them. The negative issues created by short-term condo rentals can outway crass profit maximization. In my own US town short-term rentals have been outlawed.
4. This thread is about the appeal of a Montreal "playboy pad" and the personal freedom to buy a second home without being punished by populist politicians looking for scapegoats.
5. The surtax does not even apply to real estate investment trusts or publicly traded corporations - supposed villains an above poster blames for imposing rental slavery on some Canadians.

Do not take prosperity for granted and think you can over-milk the tourist and entertainment cow. Happy visitors bring a lot of cash to Toronto and it spreads out to a lot of people. The herd may move to Montreal, ....or even Miami.

So far this has been a great thread for learning. I like the insights on the various Montreal neighborhoods. Is it true that if you buy a new or substantially renovated condo in QC you must pay more HST and QST? There seems to be a lot of electric heat there. How does the cost compare to natural gas?

 

[Jenesis]

Yes, please ask the MERB guys. I, too, would be interested. I would love to be able to relive those McGill and early career days in Montreal, at least vicariously.
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Double standard much??? Why are the ducks covered?

 

[Darts]

The old Angus Shops train depot is being developed. There will be scads of condos and apartments for sale there for the next three years. The plateau is next to downtown ( 10 minutes car or bike ride away from the downtown core ) and the Angus shops is next to the plateau. (5 minutes car or bike ride from the plateau ) If you want something new then the Angus Shops development is for you.

So, the old CP Angus shop is also closed. Super Sexe, Henri Richard Tavern, Ben's, Moise, Steinberg's, Pascal, etc. also closed. Even the old Forum is no longer the hockey center of the known world, replaced by Bell Centre.

After graduation, all my friends, including the guy from the rich Singapore family, all scattered to the 4 corners of the world. In my days, McGill was the party school of the world. Here's another pic from the old days. (I blocked out her face to protect her modesty.)

 

[MrPrezident]

Strong legs, Darts. This could be why many Montreal balconies seem to be built sturdier than Toronto balconies. As I recall this is about a $700,000K price point condo balcony in Montreal. Plenty of room for an apres jogging party.

 

[EntertainmentMan2000]

Old Montreal. Enough said.