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Since its not a legal thing to incarcerate Canadians the police have confirmed they are not stopping or arresting anyone who refuses to go to the dreaded covid hotels
This must really burn those pandemic conspiracy nuts who think covid is anything other than the flu


nationalpost.com

Some travellers walking out of Pearson airport instead of paying for quarantine hotel

Peel Regional Police are not arresting people who refuse to follow the measures at Toronto Pearson Airport, a spokesperson confirmed
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Another story
globalnews.ca

Coronavirus: Police say several travellers arriving at Toronto Pearson airport violating Quarantine Act | Globalnews.ca

"By not being mindful that you can bring dangerous variants into the country, you're being selfish to your neighbours, to your city," Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown said.
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You still need a negative test to get on the plane.

You still need to quarantine for two weeks.

This test and these hotels accomplish nothing, it’s a cash grab and apparently an opportunity for rapists to rape.
 
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TeeJay said:
Since its not a legal thing to incarcerate Canadians the police have confirmed they are not stopping or arresting anyone who refuses to go to the dreaded covid hotels
This must really burn those pandemic conspiracy nuts who think covid is anything other than the flu


nationalpost.com

Some travellers walking out of Pearson airport instead of paying for quarantine hotel

Peel Regional Police are not arresting people who refuse to follow the measures at Toronto Pearson Airport, a spokesperson confirmed
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Added to the $880.00 fine.
From the article.(It is mentioned in both articles)
" While travellers might be able to dodge mandatory quarantine in a hotel — which can cost up to $2,000 for the required three-day stay — that doesn’t mean Public Health won’t follow up and retroactively fine them, Mooken said. The fine could be up to $1,800 per person, per day."
Also.
" A spokesperson for Public Health confirmed that, under the act, a person who disobeys the mandatory quarantine could face a maximum penalty of $750,000 and/or six months imprisonment."
 
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Refusing to go to a quarantine prison is not the same as refusing to quarantine.

It’s government overreach. Plain and simple. The time to do this was a year ago, not after letting the virus run rampant throughout the population unchecked.

This whole “pandemic” response is an egregious violation of our charter rights. Of course they keep delaying the cases. They will lose and they know it and once they do, the whole house of cards will come down.

They belong in prison, and if there is any justice in this world, that’s where they’ll end up.
 
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TeeJay said:
Toilet paper tickets
The covid fines have become a joke
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That is your opinion. Which is different then you trying to say they didn’t have any consequences. Which they did. They got fines. Facts are facts. They got them.

They can fight them. They have that right, but for now, they have been given the consequence of a fine.
 
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They need to come down hard of these selfish assholes and make sure they at least pay several times more than the hotel would have cost.

Public Health Agency of Canada ‘looking into’ non-compliance incidents of new travel rules
The Public Health Agency of Canada said it's "looking into" incidents in which international travellers entering Canada are not compliant with the new rules under the federal Quarantine Act amid concerns over the spread of more contagious COVID-19 variants.
"Travellers are legally obligated to follow the instructions of a screening officer or quarantine officer through the 14-day period, whether in regards to testing, transit to locations, their mandatory hotel stopover or during quarantine at home or other suitable location," a PHAC spokesperson said in an email Wednesday.
"If they do not follow the instructions, there are penalties including a maximum fine of up to $750,000 and/or imprisonment for six months."
 
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Alas, all these fines and rules are all fine and good, too bad there’s no will to enforce them. The only consequence are on paper and really just theoretical.

Canada’s legal system and incompetent judges are setup to be as lenient as possible on the offenders while coming down as harshly as possible on law abiding people.

Kill a family by drunk driving .... no problems (especially if ur family has money).
Toss chairs and bottles from high rises onto busy streets ... no biggie, the hockey-playing judge will let u off with a slap on the wrist and a slap in the face of the public.
Mafia bust ... case gets thrown out on a technicality.
Shoot and kill a kid ... no biggie, it’s just kids.
Rappers and drug dealers killing each other in shoot outs downtown ... it’s racist to prosecute them.
COVIDIOTS travelling around the spreading god knows what ... no problem, they are harmless.
Greedy assholes operate illegal AirBnBs ... oh we can’t do anything because we can’t find the actual owners or figure out blatantly fake registration numbers. BIG mystery.
 
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Danny1832 said:
Greedy assholes operate illegal AirBnBs ... oh we can’t do anything because we can’t find the actual owners or figure out blatantly fake registration numbers. BIG mystery.
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Tangent but why is this an issue? You own a property; its your right to live there or rent it out

Hilariously enough the Residential Tenancies Act allows things like subletting (all the poor people cried they should be able to make extra income) yet these same poor people now cry things like AirBNB have reduced rental affordability for them
 
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TeeJay said:
Tangent but why is this an issue? You own a property; its your right to live there or rent it out
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Not when you own multiple condos and run a ghost hotel. As per the City’s short term rental rules, you are only allowed to run an AirBnB from your primary residence. Just log onto AirBnB and you’ll find people listed as the “host” for multiple properties; are these all their primary residences? They can get around it by operating units belonging/listed to other people, but to be considered your primary residence, you actually have to live there. Actual residents of these buildings will be able to tell you exactly which units are AirBnB party units.

The City makes these laws and then doesn’t enforce them. Which basically is a “FU chumps” to law abiding people and just encourages people to skirt the laws.
 
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Not when you own multiple condos and run a ghost hotel. As per the City’s short term rental rules, you are only allowed to run an AirBnB from your primary residence. Just log onto AirBnB and you’ll find people listed as the “host” for multiple properties; are these all their primary residences? They can get around it by operating units belonging/listed to other people, but to be considered your primary residence, you actually have to live there. Actual residents of these buildings will be able to tell you exactly which units are AirBnB party units.

The City makes these laws and then doesn’t enforce them. Which basically is a “FU chumps” to law abiding people and just encourages people to skirt the laws.
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Oh I understand what laws say (and why babies cry about them) I am questioning WHY the laws are a bad thing?

How is owning 12 units in a condo any different than renting 12 units in an apt building?
(or owning 12 units in 12 condos if you prefer)

The owner of property should be able to rent whatever terms he wishes to


BTW one more gem that just recently passed
Ford REMOVED rent control
Alot of evictions post covid will happen simply so landlords can ratchet up the rent on new tenants I suspect

www.thestar.com

The Ford government removed rent control on new units. A year later tenants are reporting double-digit increases

Tenants at a Weston building — who had received notices of a rent hike up to 25 per cent before they were cancelled by the landlord — want provincial changes reversed.
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It boils down to what is a Short Term Rental and what isn’t. A short term rental is basically a hotel/motel
TeeJay said:
How is owning 12 units in a condo any different than renting 12 units in an apt building?
(or owning 12 units in 12 condos if you prefer)
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A STR is different from a normal rental agreement. STR effectively allows you to operate a ghost hotel. Running a hotel/motel is different from renting out multiple properties; that’s why you need a license to run a hotel and there are different zoning requirements, etc. These rules exist mainly for the health, safety and well-being of the community. I can’t believe I have to explain this. SMH
 
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