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Why do the Cons suddenly care about the Uighurs?

mandrill

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More importantly why do the liberals not care ? Maybe stand up to China instead of kissing their ass
The Cons don't give a shit about a Brown, Muslim minority in Central Asia. It's just something to poke the Libs with. Point out any time O' Toole previously went out of his way to bat for the Uighurs.

China's a big country. World's largest army. Big navy. Biggest manufacturing base. Second largest economy. The Cons want to goad Justin and the Libs into biting off more than they could chew and then criticize them again when China retaliates massively.

It's going to take all the other countries combined to make China stop or think twice. Suggesting Canada could / should do it alone is silly.
 
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Canada's House of Commons has voted overwhelmingly to declare China's treatment of its Uighur minority population a genocide.
The motion - which passed 266 to 0 - was supported by all opposition parties and a handful of lawmakers from the governing Liberal Party.

Prime Minister Justice Trudeau and most members of his cabinet abstained.

Why am I not surprised with this Coward. A typical fair-weather fake Liberal. Only when it won’t cost him but make him look good, will he stand up for what is correct.
I’ m not a fan of the Conservatives, BUT Justin is a lousy PM. 😡
 

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Canada's House of Commons has voted overwhelmingly to declare China's treatment of its Uighur minority population a genocide.
The motion - which passed 266 to 0 - was supported by all opposition parties and a handful of lawmakers from the governing Liberal Party.

Prime Minister Justice Trudeau and most members of his cabinet abstained.

Why am I not surprised. Snivelling Coward. A typical fair-weather fake Liberal. Only when it won’t cost him but make him look good, will he stand up for what is correct.
I’m not a fan of the Conservatives, BUT Justin is a lousy PM.
I'm guessing that he and his cabinet had a pretty good reason for abstaining from that vote. Don't let that slow you down though.
 

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China can resolve their ethnic issues with
the Muslims by sending all the knife-wielding
Uighurs to us as refugees.
 

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They are just political pawns. Nobody cares. How many non-Western countries care?
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mandrill

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Just curious. Can any of you dudes tell me more than 1 or 2 facts about the Uighurs without looking the topic up on Wiki?

Didn't think so.
 

oil&gas

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Without looking into Wiki what I know is China has a long history
of racial conflicts as well as peaceful co-existence between the
people of Han and other minority groups. Muslims have been around
in China for centuries. Conflicts between the Muslims of Hui
and Uighurs with Imperial China were brutal but no more so than
their oppression of the Han Chinese. Without meddling from the
west the people of Hui and Uighurs will remain one of the five races
under one union in China.

 

mandrill

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In 2019, a New York Times article reported that human rights groups and Uyghur activists said that the Chinese government was using technology from US companies and researchers to collect DNA from Uyghurs. They said China was building a comprehensive DNA database to be able to track down Uyghurs who were resisting the re-education campaign.[182] Later that year, satellite photos confirmed the systematic destruction of Uyghur cemeteries.[183][184]

Despite the ongoing repression of the Uyghurs as portrayed by Western media, there have been very few protests from Islamic countries against the internment and re-education of the ethnicity by the Chinese Communist Party. In December 2018, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) initially acknowledged the disturbing reports from the region but the statement was later retracted and replaced by the comment that the OIC "commends the efforts of the People's Republic of China in providing care to its Muslim citizens; and looks forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People's Republic of China." Saudi Arabia, which hosts a significant number of ethnic Uyghurs, have refrained from any official criticism of the Chinese government,[185][186] while Turkey's President Erdogan tacitly supported China saying that "It is a fact that the people of all ethnicities in Xinjiang are leading a happy life amid China's development and prosperity" while visiting China,[187][188][189] after its Foreign Ministry denounced China for "violating the fundamental human rights of Uyghur Turks".[190][191]

In July 2019, 22 countries, including Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, France, Germany and Japan, raised concerns about “large-scale places of detention, as well as widespread surveillance and restrictions, particularly targeting Uyghurs and other minorities in Xinjiang”.[192] The 22 ambassadors urged China to end arbitrary detention and allow “freedom of movement of Uyghurs and other Muslim and minority communities in Xinjiang”.[193] However, none of these countries were predominantly Islamic countries.[194] In June 2020, United States President Donald Trump signed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act,[195] which authorizes the imposition of U.S. sanctions against Chinese government officials responsible for re-education camps.[196]

On July 12, 2019, ambassadors from 50 countries issued a joint letter to the President of the UN Human Rights Council and the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights showing their support for China, despite condemnation by several states over the detention of as many as two million Uyghur Muslims. These countries included mainly countries in Asia, Africa and the Middle East.[197][198] On August 20, 2019, Qatar withdrew its signature from the letter, ending its support for China over its treatment of Muslims.[199]

According to a 2020 report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI), several Chinese firms were benefitting from the forced labor of Uyghurs, where more than 80 companies across the world were "directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uighur workers outside Xinjiang through abusive labor transfer programs". While the United States and the United Kingdom had imposed restrictions on imports of cotton and other products from China, Japan was pressured to take action, and 12 major Japanese firms established a policy to cease business with the Chinese firms indicated by the ASPI to be using forced labor of Uyghurs.[200]

In June 2020, German anthropologist and Sinology scholar Adrian Zenz released a report, "Sterilizations, IUDs, and Mandatory Birth Control: The CCP’s Campaign to Suppress Uyghur Birthrates in Xinjiang."[201][202] His report alleged that Uyghur women, under the threat of internment, were being forced to abort children, undergo sterilization surgery, and be fitted with intrauterine devices.[203] Zenz's analysis of these mass sterilization efforts by the government revealed that growth rates in the Uyghur region had declined 60% between 2015 and 2018,[204] with the two largest Uyghur prefectures declining 84% in that same time period.[202] The birth rate declined a further 24% across the region in 2019 alone.[204] These declines in the birth rate stand in contrast to a 4.2% drop across all of China in 2019.[204] The report also noted that in 2014, 2.5% of new IUD placements throughout the country were in Xinjiang.[201] By 2018, 80% of new IUD placements were in Xinjiang despite the region comprising 1.8% of the national population.[202] Zenz asserted that these efforts by the Chinese government to repress the Uyghur birth rate met the criteria of genocide under Article II, Section D of the United Nations Genocide Convention by "imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group."[204][202]

On 13 July 2020, China decided to take reciprocal measures against US officials and announced sanctions on US lawmakers and an envoy over the issue of Uyghur rights in Xinjiang.[205]
 

oil&gas

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Western propaganda. Nothing China has done to
the Muslims there come anywhere close to the
ruthlessness of the western world's invasion of
the land of the American natives. The derogatory
remarks on Muslims coming up on Terb so often
would come across as shocking to non-Muslim
Chinese. Outside of geopolitical conflicts Muslims
are no more hostile towards their government than the
rest of the population.

I have no doubt the Uighurs are living under
oppression as are the people in the rest of
the country including Hong Kong. I also
don't deny the fact that PRC is one brutal regime
by western standard.
But if the west wish to interfere into China's
handling of riots in Xinjiang be prepared to get
more than what you wish.
 
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mandrill

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Western propaganda. Nothing China has done to
the Muslims there come anywhere close to the
ruthlessness of the western world's invasion of
the land of the American natives. The derogatory
remarks on Muslims coming up on Terb so often
would come across as shocking to non-Muslim
Chinese. Outside of geopolitical conflicts Muslims
are no more hostile towards their government than the
rest of the population.

I have no doubt the Uighurs are living under
oppression as are the people in the rest of
the country including Hong Kong. I also
don't deny the fact that PRC is one brutal regime
by western standard.
But if the west wish to interfere into China's
handling of riots in Xinjiang be prepared to get
more than what you wish.
I take it that you DON'T believe that Justin and his cabinet should have voted censure on the PRC then?
 
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