Gina Carano fired after social media posts

[I'm Me]

TBO I never knew who this woman even was before this thread was created. Knowing what I do of her now I'm not surprised the SJW types are so jealous of her. She's probably much better looking than they are. Much more physically fit than they probably are. She's probably has more more money than they do, nicer home.

But what bothers and seethes inside them the most is she doesn't think like they do.

 

[mandrill]

TBO I never knew who this woman even was before this thread was created. Knowing what I do of her now I'm not surprised the SJW types are so jealous of her. She's probably much better looking than they are. Much more physically fit than they probably are. She's probably has more more money than they do, nicer home.

But what bothers and seths them they most is she doesn't think like they do.

Seriously, buddy?

That's your explanation? Not that she exudes obnoxious, false crap about COVID and the public and the studio won't put up with it any longer?

White Grievance Culture is pretty clearly becoming it's own self contained cult with the inevitable fictional villains and bizarre reasoning. I thought that QAnon was weird with chemtrails, adrenochrome and Lizard Rulers; but White Grievance Culture is becoming almost as weird.

In several pages of this thread, multiple people have explained to you why Carano got fired and the business rationale why she won't get re hired in "real world Hollywood business" terms. You've absorbed NONE of that. Neither have your buddies. At the end of the day, your "reasoning" is that the "SJW's" - whoever tf THOSE are supposed to be - were just jealous of her looks and income.

What self-deluding, imaginary world are you living in?

And perhaps the most ludicrous part is that you first posted a general insult about "lefties" using obscene language and then deleted that when you clearly thought that the above post you made was smarter and more insightful. It's just ridiculous, isn't it?!

 

[mandrill]

TBO I never knew who this woman even was before this thread was created. Knowing what I do of her now I'm not surprised the SJW types are so jealous of her. She's probably much better looking than they are. Much more physically fit than they probably are. She's probably has more more money than they do, nicer home.

But what bothers and seethes inside them the most is she doesn't think like they do.

"TBO" = "To be Onest"?

Asking for a friend.

 

[explorerzip]

down the list of things we do and dont know.


we do know disneys actual reasoning. At least their public statement. They think she is something akin to a horrible human being who they do not wish representing their brand. that really is as clear cut as it is, she wasnt good for their image.... they are not the first person they can for that reason.

we know there had to be a letter of termination (a place of hire is legally obligated to give one in all but like 5 states.)

We do know that Disney last year in the third quarter released a "code of conduct" for employees pertaining to online social media behavior. while i dont think the fine details are known, we do know that the core intent of it was to "not antagonize fans." This is 100% the reason they got her out, but also the brings to question why they dont apply this same logic to other stars making rather nasty comments about right leaning people.

we also know what laws apply to carano... california law. Because in order to take any sort of contract with disney, she would have to sing on to their law rulings.

i agree with you that people should strive to not jump the gun on conclusions, but however, there is enough precedent and enough evidence to point as to how and why gina was let go.



we actually, do infact know almost everything about this.

No, we don't know any of this information or the details. Those details are important to truly understand what is going on. All we have are a series of random tweets, web-sites, Youtube vids, and a press statement. The press statement can differ from the reasons stated in the letter of termination.

Not sure if I was obvious, but I've been trying to make a case for wrongful dismissal and there needs to be substantive evidence. Random Tweets or YouTube videos are not evidence to me. Those are opinions. We are missing a lot of key facts like:

• We don't know what Carano or any actor agrees to in their contract
• We don't know the details of the code of conduct and how she specifically breached it. The details of her misconduct matter.
• We don't know of any other potential issues like abusive behavior, tardiness, etc. that would also be grounds for dismissal. How many people would actually admit to these things unless they were pressed?
• We don' t know the relevant state / federal employment laws and how or if they apply to actors.
• We don't know if and how she and the others were warned of their behavior and the action plans they were given.

She's not an employee of Disney. She's likely considered a contractor and most if not all employment laws won't apply to her. There probably wasn't a letter of termination. She likely got a phone call or e-mail telling her not to come back. I don't think she's been acting long enough to be part of the Screen Actors Guild aka union. These and other details are important to know if Disney acted legally or illegally and if she can make a case for wrongful dismissal and to sue.

A lot of energy has been spent on criticizing Disney's alleged lack of consistency on this. How many people or companies are truly consistent though? Let's reframe this discussion about consistency. If Pedro Pascal was fired for alleged sexual misconduct I think most here would want substantive evidence of it. Not just a random series of Tweets, vids, etc. If people are really so concerned about consistency then they should be this issue too.

It seems to me that many here have fallen into the trap of confirmation bias. They believe so strongly that Disney is wrong that any "evidence" they find confirms it. The glaring lack of any critical thinking and rational thought is more troubling to me than the so-called cancel culture or the angry mob.

 

[explorerzip]

explorezip, if the plutocrats who insure the studios say it's legal, then it's legal...she's done as an actor.

New Information.

Steven Spielberg ordered Michal Bay to fire Megan Fox for calling him a Hitler. She could have gotten squashed like Carano but Spielberg showed mercy. He petitioned the plutocrats not to blackball her, his reasoning was that it was an act of poor judgement, not a belief system. Had she been blackballed, all her endorsements (which she made major $$$$ on) would have vanished.

Tom Hardy got canned for slapping Paul Bettany. Christopher Nolan took a risk casting him in Inception, there were no objections.

She's not new to the entertainment industry and would know the cards were stacked against her. Yet she still signed the contract and thus agreed to the code of conduct. At the same time, she continually ignored that code of conduct and was sacked.

 

[explorerzip]

The persecution of Gina Carano.

Her sacking perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy and intolerance of the woke elites.

It’s official: only liberals are allowed to talk shit about the Holocaust. That’s the take-home message of the Gina Carano scandal. For here we have a right-wing woman being shamed and sacked for doing what luvvies and leftish types have been doing for years: comparing the early 21st century to Nazi Germany.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was at it just a few weeks ago. He spoke about the Capitol riot in the same breath as Kristallnacht, the anti-Jewish pogrom of 1938 which led to the deaths of almost 100 Jews and the internment in concentration camps of 30,000 more and which is widely considered to be the starting point of the Holocaust. Was Schwarzenegger harried, condemned and sacked from everything for his hysterical comparison of a stupid riot with the start of the greatest crime in history? No, he was idolised.

Guardianistas gushed over him. Every social influencer in Christendom shared his mad Kristallnacht video and said ‘Go Arnie!’. Carano, by contrast, was hounded by the Twittermob, called a disgusting anti-Semite, and eventually relieved of her acting work by Disney, who branded her comments ‘abhorrent’.

Schwarzenegger’s Holocaust Relativism was arguably more egregious than Carano’s. Hers was at least a little vague. He marshalled a specific event, one of the darkest in human history, and used it to make a showy, viral political point in the here and now. And yet he became the man of the hour while Carano is a witch who must be burned.

It gets worse. Another star of The Mandalorian itself has engaged in Holocaust Relativism and received no rebuke from Disney. Pedro Pascal, a couple of years ago, shared a grotesque meme comparing America’s imprisonment of illegal immigrants with the incarceration of Jews in death camps. Carano’s comment pales into insignificance in comparison with Pascal’s witless diminishment of the horrors of the death camps, his use of the Nazis’ factories of death to score brownie points with Trump-hating social-media users. And yet she is ‘abhorrent’ and sacked, while he carries on taking the Disney dollar.

The persecution of Gina Carano

Her sacking perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy and intolerance of the woke elites.

www.spiked-online.com

Schwarzenegger is not employed by Disney or any other company AFAIK. I think he's effectively retired now. He has no one to answer to besides Twitter or Google who could suspend or ban him for breaching the terms of service.

 

[Tomoreno]

She's not new to the entertainment industry and would know the cards were stacked against her. Yet she still signed the contract and thus agreed to the code of conduct. At the same time, she continually ignored that code of conduct and was sacked.

You're correct.

She insulted too many losers and cocksuckers with fragile egos who voluntarily followed her on Twitter and Instagram.

They harrased and abused her for months because there's nothing better to do in their lives, then started #fireGinaCarano to make sure she wasn't too comfortable.

This is what normal people do. They follow someone who doesn't share their views, get offended, then scream outloud, so everyone can hear them.

 

[Tomoreno]

Schwarzenegger is not employed by Disney or any other company AFAIK. I think he's effectively retired now. He has no one to answer to besides Twitter or Google who could suspend or ban him for breaching the terms of service.

If you can't see double and triple standards - then I have nothing else to say.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

TBO I never knew who this woman even was before this thread was created. Knowing what I do of her now I'm not surprised the SJW types are so jealous of her. She's probably much better looking than they are. Much more physically fit than they probably are. She's probably has more more money than they do, nicer home.

But what bothers and seethes inside them the most is she doesn't think like they do.

"Leftism is a religion of self-loathing. It teaches white people to hate their race, boys to hate their sex, women to hate their femininity, Americans to hate their country, westerners to hate their history. What a contemptible, toxic thing it is."

 

[I'm Me]

"TBO" = "To be Onest"?

Asking for a friend.

I thank you for your question. It's non-binary. May I kindly suggest you remind your friend they shouldn't judge others based on what acronym they identify as.

TBO

What does TBO stand for?

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TBH

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[explorerzip]

You're correct.

She insulted too many losers and cocksuckers with fragile egos who voluntarily followed her on Twitter and Instagram.

They harrased and abused her for months because there's nothing better to do in their lives, then started #fireGinaCarano to make sure she wasn't too comfortable.

This is what normal people do. They follow someone who doesn't share their views, get offended, then scream outloud, so everyone can hear them.

It doesn't matter how many times you say this, but you still have no real evidence for how these actions by online trolls caused Disney to fire her. Show me her employment contract, code of conduct, records of meetings she had with management, e-mail, phone call or videos of her being fired. These are all irrefutable facts and they don't care about how you or the mob feel about this.

Logical and rational people wait until they get as much evidence as possible before passing judgement and try to check their biases at the door.

 

[explorerzip]

If you can't see double and triple standards - then I have nothing else to say.

You keep coming back to this lack of consistency. Can you find me a single person or company that is ever consistent?

 

[Tomoreno]

It doesn't matter how many times you say this, but you still have no real evidence for how these actions by online trolls caused Disney to fire her. Show me her employment contract, code of conduct, records of meetings she had with management, e-mail, phone call or videos of her being fired. These are all irrefutable facts and they don't care about how you or the mob feel about this.

Logical and rational people wait until they get as much evidence as possible before passing judgement and try to check their biases at the door.

A-ha, people wait for all evidence and facts to come out before they burn a bulding down.

Employers and sponsors wait for proof and evidence before they cut ties.

Where have you lived lately?

 

[Tomoreno]

You keep coming back to this lack of consistency. Can you find me a single person or company that is ever consistent?

Double standards are NOT the same as consistency.

Double standards however are applied consistently!

 

[Jasmina]

To be oblivious/obtuse/obnoxious, lol.

"TBO" = "To be Onest"?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Jasmina]

No. Comparing nazis to nazis is not the same as comparing yourself (as a supposed victim) to the Jewish (and other people) who were mass murdered in the holocaust. Not the fucking same at all.

Members here have already posted comparable examples of WW2 grifting and obscene threats by lefties...from obscure nobodies to the well known rich and famous. These ARE comparable.

You're guilty of participating in the selective and disproportionate condemnation. You're not fooling anyone. Your hypocrisy is far too revealing.

You're like the bastards in Germany that never defended the Nazis. They just went along with everything the Nazis did.

 

[explorerzip]

A-ha, people wait for all evidence and facts to come out before they burn a bulding down.

Employers and sponsors wait for proof and evidence before they cut ties.

Where have you lived lately?

Yet we still don't have any irrefutable facts about this from Carano or Disney about this. I already listed some important details that could make the case for a wrongful misconduct that we just don't have access to. What makes you believe so strongly that they don't not have sufficient proof or other reasons for terminating her?

I am trying to understand a situation where I don't have key pieces of information. Just as you are. I'm just careful not to make assumptions based on limited information before making conclusions. That's called the real world.

 

[Tomoreno]

To be oblivious/obtuse/obnoxious, lol.

TBO =

Touching balls obsessively

Time between oral

Taking balls out

Technically bad oral

 

[explorerzip]

Double standards are NOT the same as consistency.

Double standards however are applied consistently!

You talked about why one person was treated differently than another at the same company with the same policy. In other words, the policies are inconsistently applied aka a double standard.

I am not sure what you mean by "Double standards however are applied consistently!" because they are contradictory terms. How exactly do you apply a double standard consistently?

At any rate, we're just playing semantic word games now so I'll just leave it there.

 

[Jasmina]

Dat's a lot of oral/bawls

TBO =

Touching balls obsessively

Time between oral

Taking balls out

Technically bad oral