If you show some resistance...you will get extra force on the arrest....People seem to forget or too dumb nowadays to remember when you're reprimanded by the cops, resisting is the last thing you do...most of the videos taken are when the events are past the initial encounter...People tend to reach for their phones once the situation escalates...cop gave him a few extra taps....i don't see any problem...he didn't sit on his neck either...
Police brutality alleged in Barrie
- Thread starter Phil C. McNasty
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Since when do Police have to arrest somebody for skateboarding a red light?
It was pure intimidation.
Don't know about the arrest part...but the resisting part...never resist...don't give them reason to use force...would they still force you to the ground if you offer to be cuffed?
OK just make sure that first you organize police to break down SP doors and violently attack customers. I’ll be there waiting.
I do not believe in giving absolute power to the police, as in offering to be handcuffed for jaywalking.
I am not at all against police, but somebody like this policeman walking around with a handgun and a taser does not make us safer.
I don't think you want Canada to become a police state. There are enough of police states in the world, and they are not generally attractive places to live.
I didn't bother to read the article as it's a waste of time. Punk was probably going to get a warning or citation and thought he had the right to ignore or flee the cop. Something led to it escalating to this and it's probably the skateboarder.
i’m pretty sure there are countless examples online, where individuals were brutalized by police - Without provocation
Probably but that's not the norm...I don't think this cop just walk around picking a random dude and started this...
I'm not sure even the biggest asshole cop would want to roll around in the snow and get soaking wet for enjoyment. I'm sure most cops prefer to do their shift with as little effort as possible and go home.
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If a cop says you're under arrest then guess what? Just comply.
Anything else isn't going to end well for you. Might even cost you your life.
Having said all that. It's best for the cop just to ride that guy out till back up comes. If he's got proper training it's not that hard.
I've seen it first hand many many times. The guy on the bottom will eventually become exhausted.
The shot to the head at the end was unnecessary and unprovoked. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement and the pressure that comes from being on the job but there's a line that can't be crossed. It was crossed here in my opinion.
Anything else isn't going to end well for you. Might even cost you your life.
Having said all that. It's best for the cop just to ride that guy out till back up comes. If he's got proper training it's not that hard.
I've seen it first hand many many times. The guy on the bottom will eventually become exhausted.
The shot to the head at the end was unnecessary and unprovoked. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement and the pressure that comes from being on the job but there's a line that can't be crossed. It was crossed here in my opinion.
Although I have lived in North America a long time, I still cannot help being surprised by the love of authoritarism by North Americans, as often demonstrated here on Terb.
While they all the time scream about freedom and yell bloody hell when asked to wear masks, they love authority close to the level of fascism.
The situation is completely reversed in Northern Europe. Nobody talks about freedom much, but the Police do not have authoritarian powers. For example, in Denmark, in a court of law, the word of a policeman carries no more weight than any other citizen's word Also, is not against the law to lie to a policeman.
While they all the time scream about freedom and yell bloody hell when asked to wear masks, they love authority close to the level of fascism.
The situation is completely reversed in Northern Europe. Nobody talks about freedom much, but the Police do not have authoritarian powers. For example, in Denmark, in a court of law, the word of a policeman carries no more weight than any other citizen's word Also, is not against the law to lie to a policeman.
well.... the antecedent is missing so this video means shit with it however, watching the video as is:
people seem to not realize that if a cop legal detains you, you must comply with the officer(sitting in your car, in the back of their cruiser, in cuffs). this is a their discretion. you have the right to remain silent, but not the right to avoid being detained) however you are being detained.
arm chair quarter backs are clueless when it comes to managing physical behavior, so if you have never wrestled or been in a physical fight you dont know jack shit.
the officer given the circumstances was professional in my opinion. of course you can try and hold someone to a impossible perfect professional standard. like I said before you dont know jack shit unless been in the situation. this is a fight or flight response of the officer and he is managing his life/safety. the officer pinned him. the suspect continued to not follow direction of stop moving since his feet/legs are moving and more than likely the officer has also contained his arms. as you noticed an observer asks the officer if he needs assistance and goes towards the suspects feet. the suspect continues to twist. officer pulls the taz since he is continuing to move and the officer may be losing control of the suspect(thats really bad when a suspect over powers a police officer as it could escalate even further). he warns him he will light him up(in an ideal world when you are not fighting for your life or from a text book "sir please remain calm and stop moving, if you continue to resist I will have no choice but to use non lethal force aka taz). the bop on the head is completely reasonable as it wasnt hard and its less intrusive than the taz. the bop on the head can focus and intimidate someone to calm down and stop whatever shit they are doing. cops are intimidating since they carry weapons, wear quasi military uniforms and are typically big men. as a former insert job here. taking down an adult male with a woman as a second pretty much means you are on your own. they are typically useless except for the rare woman who is built like a line backer(they do exist but they are rare). one of my female coworkers was like this(mid 200s 6 feet tall and solid), not overly feminine imo but in that situation muscle and size are number 1. officer looses taz(this is really bad). officer applies more force(crushing the suspect). this is highly uncomfortable and painful but tends to work very effectively instead of beating them with a baton across the head. he would had tazed him instead if he didnt drop the taz.
the suspect will have minor scraps and bruises.
this cop was professional based upon the video supplied. perhaps if there was video from start(cop stops kid) I would have a different opinion.
people seem to not realize that if a cop legal detains you, you must comply with the officer(sitting in your car, in the back of their cruiser, in cuffs). this is a their discretion. you have the right to remain silent, but not the right to avoid being detained) however you are being detained.
arm chair quarter backs are clueless when it comes to managing physical behavior, so if you have never wrestled or been in a physical fight you dont know jack shit.
the officer given the circumstances was professional in my opinion. of course you can try and hold someone to a impossible perfect professional standard. like I said before you dont know jack shit unless been in the situation. this is a fight or flight response of the officer and he is managing his life/safety. the officer pinned him. the suspect continued to not follow direction of stop moving since his feet/legs are moving and more than likely the officer has also contained his arms. as you noticed an observer asks the officer if he needs assistance and goes towards the suspects feet. the suspect continues to twist. officer pulls the taz since he is continuing to move and the officer may be losing control of the suspect(thats really bad when a suspect over powers a police officer as it could escalate even further). he warns him he will light him up(in an ideal world when you are not fighting for your life or from a text book "sir please remain calm and stop moving, if you continue to resist I will have no choice but to use non lethal force aka taz). the bop on the head is completely reasonable as it wasnt hard and its less intrusive than the taz. the bop on the head can focus and intimidate someone to calm down and stop whatever shit they are doing. cops are intimidating since they carry weapons, wear quasi military uniforms and are typically big men. as a former insert job here. taking down an adult male with a woman as a second pretty much means you are on your own. they are typically useless except for the rare woman who is built like a line backer(they do exist but they are rare). one of my female coworkers was like this(mid 200s 6 feet tall and solid), not overly feminine imo but in that situation muscle and size are number 1. officer looses taz(this is really bad). officer applies more force(crushing the suspect). this is highly uncomfortable and painful but tends to work very effectively instead of beating them with a baton across the head. he would had tazed him instead if he didnt drop the taz.
the suspect will have minor scraps and bruises.
this cop was professional based upon the video supplied. perhaps if there was video from start(cop stops kid) I would have a different opinion.
lol.
when the second cop arrived on scene the cop, in a perfect world that head shot wouldnt have happened. like I said before officers are in a fight or flight situation and you can be an arm chair quarterback all you want but actively being in the restraint the cop probably didn't even see the second officer since hes in tunnel vision on the suspect. his superiors probably wont bat an eye at the restraint however may be a discussion about losing his taz,
If the kid put up an attitude and forcefully resisted arrest, he deserved everything he got.
The only thing I dont understand how was he supposed to put his arms behind his back when the cop was sitting on him??
The only thing I dont understand how was he supposed to put his arms behind his back when the cop was sitting on him??
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Looks like the police is just as bad in Denmark. .I have been away from there a long time, and the video does look shocking.
However, I did not claim that the police in Denmark is perfect. I claimed that the population does not applaud it as the population does in Canada.
And it is true, that in a court of law, the word of a policeman carries no more weight than any other citizen's word Also, is not against the law to lie to a policeman.
That's the question. If the guy was fighting the cop before being put down I don't see much of an issue besides popping him in the head with the taser. That said, would be damn hard to comply with what the cop was telling him with 200 pounds sitting on top.
