The NRA was in on the conspiracy that motivated people to go to Washington
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Those facts are to inconvenient for some of these yahoos to wrap their heads around. Most people who want an AR-15 around the house give a rat's ass about neighbors...
Yup, and highest murder rate, rivalling some of Trump's favourite shithole countries.
Just the way the NRA wants it, the more sales the more the death and the more profit.
Not true
those who know nothing about guns think because the media says ar15 is evil that it is
it’s the most popular rifle in us
The ar15 is not a factor in homicides
2018
38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide and 13,958 were homicides.
In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a riflewhile 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[12]
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
gun sales actually plunged when trump was elected as he wasn’t threatening to ban them. Sales increased when Americans saw the violence and looting at various protests across the country people who didn’t have guns before bought them to protect themselves.
Its banned in Canada, we think its evil.Not true
those who know nothing about guns think because the media says ar15 is evil that it is
it’s the most popular rifle in us
The ar15 is not a factor in homicides
2018
38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide and 13,958 were homicides.
In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a riflewhile 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.[12]
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
Maybe court out west already ruled in gun owners favor
Because the RCMP sent out notices that they said we’re not registration revocation notices basically so no one could appeal the ban (sec74 appeal)the court ruled that that’s not legal the feds are appealing this will drag on for years or the conservatives get in and repeal it all
Are you saying you own an illegal weapon and that you haven't disabled it as you're supposed to?
Gun show loophole on background checks. Long rifles just a driver's licence. Some US states a driver's licence for handguns. Thus minimal background checks. Mentally ill have been able to obtain them. Thus the plea is to change those loopholes. Pretty sensible IMHO. Too many blokes w firearms who have minimal training. Think they can keep calm and hit a target in the middle of a shootout. Look at the public record of police shootings -who are trained - and their hit rate.
Btw all the Aussie shooting were intra familial. Outside family 4 max people. Not 35.
There is no gun show loopholes they are considered private sales if a person sells more than a set amount they have to have a dealers license all dealer transactions are run through the FBI Many police forces you qualify one time a year they never shoot their guns otherwise, most gun owners shoot their guns a lot so they have more practice
The NRA files for bankruptcy.
1st I have never said I own anything I did say if i did I would have a license and be in full compliance with the laws
you sir know nothing about firearms laws in Canada you really should do research before accusing members here of illegal activities you have made the EXACT same statement several times accusing me of illegal activities I have presented the ACTUAL facts and LAWS yet you accuse me again
you need to retract your unfounded and slanderous accusation of illegal activities
there is absolutely no requirement to disable anything that's been prohibited in this country (its also not disable its deactivate)
What you need to know about the Government of Canada’s new prohibition on certain firearms and devices | Royal Canadian Mounted Police (rcmp-grc.gc.ca)
The Amnesty Order protects owners who held a valid registration certificate for the newly prohibited firearms on April 30th, 2020.
What are your options now?
- Wait for further instructions to participate in the buy-back program
- Have your firearm deactivated by an approved firearms business and advise the Registrar of Firearms once completed
- Legally export your firearm which case you can engage businesses with proper firearm licence privilege. Once exported you are requested to advise the Registrar of Firearms
An Amnesty Order is in effect until April 30, 2022 to protect individuals who were in legal possession of one or more of these newly prohibited firearms or devices on the day the amendments to the Classification Regulations came into force (May 1, 2020), from criminal liability for unlawful possession. It also provides owners with the time to come into compliance with the law.
The Government intends to implement a buy-back program and is looking at a range of options. More information on the buy-back program will be available at a later date.
If you relinquish a newly prohibited firearm or device before the implementation of the buy-back program, you won't be eligible for compensation once the program is announced.
How this prohibition affects owners of these firearms
Effective immediately:
Individuals
- Owners of newly prohibited firearms and devices are to keep them securely stored in accordance with their previous classification. The Display, Storage, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (the Regulations) are available on the Department of Justice website.
- Newly prohibited firearms and devices cannot be sold or imported.
- Newly prohibited firearms and devices may only be transported under limited circumstances.Footnote1
- Newly prohibited firearms and devices cannot be legally used for hunting unless allowed through the amnesty.Footnote2
- Newly prohibited firearms cannot be used for sport shooting, either at a range or elsewhere.
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I didn't accuse you, I asked you if you had a banned weapon based on your posts.
So you can keep your AR 15 for now, as long as its locked up and you don't use it or move it but soon you'll either have to deactivate it or sell it to the government.
Which would you do?
you can move it for several reasons you just need to phone for a transport permit
there are really no options
first the "buyback" how can they buyback something that was never theirs? Its outright theft you have a rifle alone worth $3K + they say take $1000. or go to jail that's theft. then you thousands of dollars in accessories that only fit said rifle that they are not buying so by act of law they have devalued your legally purchased and owned property
deactivating Not sure possible with the ar15 as its difficult to weld aluminum
third option will be keep it with grandfathering they dropped that off the internet as the NDP threatened to pull support but its in the papers they mailed out
they really screwed up the notices sent are worded so you could not appeal via sec 74 hearing (firearms act) that in itself is not permitted in the act. A court in Alberta has ruled just that as you have the right to appeal as spelled out in the FA act
they said no sporting use or use for hunting was the reason to ban, at the same time they exempted natives to use them for hunting (not ar15 but other rifles in this ban)
the ar15 is the most popular sporting rifle in north America
the ar15 is simply not used in crimes in Canada all I could find in over 50 years of ar15 in Canada is one murder and one woman paralyzed both with stolen/smuggled guns
the NS shooter had one too but they have not said if it was used AND it was smuggled in from the usa thus illegal.
approx. 100,000-120,000 ar15's in Canada their rare to non existent use in crimes shows they are not a threat to public safety
this law will do nothing to make Canadians safer
if you had one just sit tight this is going to probably take years to wind through the courts, once its in the courts they cant take your rifle. the Liberals in their rush made several mistakes in this law one was the order in council was not to be used for major law changes such as this one. no discussion in the house they totally bypassed parliament.
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There is no support for making AR 15's legal, you're out of luck.
You buy a semi automatic weapon, designed for killing more people easier than other weapons, you deal with the repercussions.
How the AK-47 and AR-15 Evolved Into Rifles of Choice for Mass Shootings (Published 2018)
The weapons, ready amplifiers of rage, allow a few people to kill scores and menace hundreds, and fight head-to-head against modern soldiers and police forces.
www.nytimes.com
dont need support if the courts quash it or the next government repeals it that's all we needThere is no support for making AR 15's legal, you're out of luck.
You buy a semi automatic weapon, designed for killing more people easier than other weapons, you deal with the repercussions.
How the AK-47 and AR-15 Evolved Into Rifles of Choice for Mass Shootings (Published 2018)
The weapons, ready amplifiers of rage, allow a few people to kill scores and menace hundreds, and fight head-to-head against modern soldiers and police forces.
if designed for killing then the 100,00-120,000 in Canada MUST be defective???? guess what its NOT designed for killing any firearm is designed to propel a projectile down the barrel then if semiautomatic eject and chamber the next round
again the use of semiautomatic rifles in crime in Canada is so rare that this ban will NOT have any impact in the crime rate or increase the safety of Canadians
even in the usa handguns and other weapons kill way way more then rifles
hell falling out of bed causes more deaths a year then the ar15
Your views are in the extreme minority, governments won't ever enact them in a democracy.
Eight in Ten (82%) Canadians Support Federal Government’s Ban on Military-Style Assault Weapons
most anti gun polls the questions asked give the person NO choice but to answer with some sort of ban or restriction
again polls are inaccurate hillary was supposed to easily defeat trump according to polls
