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peetscoffee

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I worked directly with airlines in the states and got laid off. My routine got impacted and had to move to Canada which has been stressing me out and I hate staying with parents, not knowing where to live or what field to work in. Super stressed and fairly depressed basically. If I had a green card, I wouldnt had to move and I'd be much happier, even if unemployed, at least I'd have a home where I could "chill" and take my time in finding a new career, or work. I'm not pressed on cash but more stressed due to lack of routine and the F-ing move.
 

peetscoffee

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I could work hard and smart if I have a home and settled in somewhere, but since I'm so stressed and don't know what I'm doing, I can't even really type on this forum.
 

curvluvr

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Being unemployed is definitely stressful. The pressure of not knowing where you'll find a job, and the pressure of possible career change decisions is definitely difficult. I was there twice in my career, unemployed for several months each time... the first time with a newborn and a mortgage to maintain.
I know it's hard to keep your spirits up during this time, but do take the time to enjoy the time off while looking for work or making your career change. You may never have another chance like this to have an extended leave.
Keep focusing on looking for work, take the time to consider career options, but also try to enjoy the time off, too.
 

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Sales related and 60k given that you don't have experience in sales (I assume you don't) good luck with that. Most sales jobs are commission based, your numbers will depend on the quality/desirability of the product you sell and to get into an organization that has this type of product you need experience and connections. I would recommend a trade but if you want it easy it's probably the wrong choice.
It was hard to get a high-paying job before 2020, it’s only getting worse. There are very few jobs (other than sales/entrepreneur) that can make a high income anymore and many require many years of schooling and years of experience to hit the big salaries, and/or have very few positions that pay very high (in many professions, it is 20% of people making 80% of the money, most are making entry level wages or above and never rise much higher).

I am an old millennial, and this is the 2nd serious recession I’ve experienced. 2nd time that a large number of lucrative jobs disappeared forever, cost of living has gone up. We just need to accept that we will have to continually make due with less.

Young men need to accept that they will probably never have the quality of life we dreamed of, and best case scenario for most will be a salary where you can live a high quality lifestyle. I make enough to have savings, can drive a nice vehicle, travel, wear nice clothes, eat well, have a good body, etc. But I don’t have enough to provide that life for a female as well, and have kids (95% of men can’t afford to have a stay at home wife + kids+ the middle class lifestyle that women expect).
 
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peetscoffee

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Aerospace is one of the worse field to get into if you're Canadian. In the US, it's pretty good.

I want a career with which I can transition into from an Aerospace Engineering background without going back to school for further training.
My role was highly technical. I've made OK money working in it for about 13 years.
However, I have abs 0 chance of breaking into it in Canada since my role or similar roles don't exist, and I can't work in the US (my visa expired and can't go back for other reasons).
So I'm starting 2021 with no clue on where I want to live or what I want to do for work. Luckily, I don't have dependants so even though it's stressful, it could've been worse.
I need a place to live too. I think I got 10 more days max at my parents place before I look for an Airbnb....
 

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There are couple things I can think of for you.

1) Municipal bus driver / transit operator - making about $60-70K per year with decent benefits

2) Police officer - making good money for at least $55K to start with. High school diploma is the only educational requirement. You need to pass their police training.

3) Military soldier - they love to recruit young people in their 20s and 30s such as yourself. It starts around $45K with good benefits and very stable employment. Because you already have a Bachelor degree in Engineering, they can start you as officer level with better pays for perhaps around $60K.
 

Mr.Know-It-All

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^^^
Good suggestions. Note that to get recruited into the Armed Forces, you'll have to pass a yearly fitness test.
 

curvluvr

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Aerospace is one of the worse field to get into if you're Canadian. In the US, it's pretty good.

I want a career with which I can transition into from an Aerospace Engineering background without going back to school for further training.
My role was highly technical. I've made OK money working in it for about 13 years.
However, I have abs 0 chance of breaking into it in Canada since my role or similar roles don't exist, and I can't work in the US (my visa expired and can't go back for other reasons).
So I'm starting 2021 with no clue on where I want to live or what I want to do for work. Luckily, I don't have dependants so even though it's stressful, it could've been worse.
I need a place to live too. I think I got 10 more days max at my parents place before I look for an Airbnb....
Exactly what "highly technical" skills do you have or did you acquire in your role in Aerospace? If you're afraid of confusing me with technical jargon, try me... I work as an Engineering Manager in manufacturing.
I agree that Aerospace Engineering is a specialized niche, but I'm sure that you've got skills that can be used in other fields, both in Engineering and maybe outside of Engineering.
 

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Exactly what "highly technical" skills do you have or did you acquire in your role in Aerospace? If you're afraid of confusing me with technical jargon, try me... I work as an Engineering Manager in manufacturing.
I agree that Aerospace Engineering is a specialized niche, but I'm sure that you've got skills that can be used in other fields, both in Engineering and maybe outside of Engineering.
Finite Element / Test engineer for 13 years. It can be transferable to Automotive applications but I don't really have industry connections nor the Automotive specific software skills to learn and adapt. I interviewed once for Automotive and they just ended up hiring an Automotive guy over me as they know CAE and other related softwares. They get 100s of resumes... I have no chance.
 

peetscoffee

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Young men need to accept that they will probably never have the quality of life we dreamed of.... But I don’t have enough to provide that life for a female as well.
I gave up on that dream in my late 20s. I concluded life has no meaning and there is no point in it for me to try to reproduce. At 28, the meaning of life for me became to live a low key, low stress life. That means skip typical middle life (25-55 aka family/kids) and retire early if possible. I'm about $1,000,000 USD behind in my goal. I'm 34 now and my views haven't changed. I get stressed easily so definitely no kids for me. Maybe not even a partner but I'm not entirely sure. Maybe there are some low stress possibilities if you get lucky but these days, can't even get a date.
 

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Finite Element / Test engineer for 13 years. It can be transferable to Automotive applications but I don't really have industry connections nor the Automotive specific software skills to learn and adapt. I interviewed once for Automotive and they just ended up hiring an Automotive guy over me as they know CAE and other related softwares. They get 100s of resumes... I have no chance.
Finite Element/Test engineer is totally transferrable. Automotive needs test engineers. Test labs obviously need test engineers. I'm sure there are more industries that need test engineers.

Don't worry about not knowing specific software... If you're lucky enough to land a job that requires the software, you will learn that on the job. Or, you can go out and take a course to learn how to use it and then add it to your resume to make yourself even more appealing to those particular industries.
Don't give up on submitting applications, but do consider other ways of finding work. Don't just add your pile to the 100's of resumes through Indeed. Try to give your resume to headhunters (I'm pretty sure that they still exist), try to visit company websites for job openings, or even try dropping off resumes in person (maybe not so good to do now during pandemic). And make sure that your resume is well written (grammar, spelling), and tailored to the job you're applying for.
Finding a job can be a full-time job in itself. You do have to put in some time and effort. Hopefully your efforts will pay off.
And if you need to find work immediately, apply for lower-paying jobs just to tie yourself over while you continue looking for a better job.
Good luck.
 

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Aerospace. Super nerdy stuff. I hate Engineering and being a nerd though. I can't go back to other kinds of Engineering because I don't have a P Eng nor a PMP for a project role, and I'm not interested in getting one.
Can you code? I work in finance and many firms are looking for python coders. I believe the going rate is $125 - $150/hr. Many traders I know are engineers or programmers. Not sure if you have the killer instinct or desire to work long hours to be a trader, but the jobs are lucrative...easily hit mid 6 figures after a few years.
 
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peetscoffee

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Can you code? I work in finance and many firms are looking for python coders. I believe the going rate is $125 - $150/hr. Many traders I know are engineers or programmers. Not sure if you have the killer instinct or desire to work long hours to be a trader, but the jobs are lucrative...easily hit mid 6 figures after a few years.
I don't mind long hours or hard work. How do I become a trader? That requires coding? Don't really know coding but I can learn... Is it easy to break in with no experience? Sounds like a fun job. I know basic accounting and finance, equity valuation, and some trading. I used to trade in my 20s so know a little bit about that as well
 
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oakvilleguy

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I don't mind long hours or hard work. How do I become a trader? That requires coding? Don't really know coding but I can learn... Is it easy to break in with no experience? Sounds like a fun job. I know basic accounting and finance, equity valuation, and some trading. I used to trade in my 20s so know a little bit about that as well
There are a number of ways.
1 - get your MBA and apply in December for a summer internship and if you’re good, they will offer you a full time job when you graduate
2 - enrol to get your CFA and apply after you’ve completed your level 1
3 - get a coding job supporting the trading desk and network like heck and if they like you, they could offer you a job on the desk
4 - go to law school and specialize in corporate law or tax
5 - get into a support role, such as risk management or operations, network, network, network and if they like you, they might give you a shot.

All of these require more than a basic knowledge of the investment industry and a solid grasp of math and quantitative skills, which I assume shouldn’t be too difficult for someone with an engineering background.
 

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I don't mind long hours or hard work. How do I become a trader? That requires coding? Don't really know coding but I can learn... Is it easy to break in with no experience? Sounds like a fun job. I know basic accounting and finance, equity valuation, and some trading. I used to trade in my 20s so know a little bit about that as well
you are an aerospace engineer but you never coded?
 

peetscoffee

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you are an aerospace engineer but you never coded?
I coded when I was 22. I'm 34. Unsure, if I want to code again.

I basically want something that's easy to get into, that can get me working quickly, without having to try my luck going thru steps as mentioned by Oakville guy. I'm willing to put effort and hard work, but for a return, not for a "chance". I don't mind low pay. Not trying to get rich. Just something that can get me 60K ish for now.

Today I saw an SP and asked what she did for work during the day. She does Uber. She suggested I find a sugarmama. Lol so funny.
 

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Historian. Everyone has their own record of events, just bring that all together for one event or series of events. There's available material for countless books, even if you never worked for Trump...
 
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