Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
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Pfizer COVID Vaccine Trial Shows Alarming Evidence of Pathogenic Priming in Older Adults

The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Briefing Document on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine contains disturbing indications that might be a safety signal on pathogenic priming, especially in older adults.


In the development of vaccines against coronaviruses like SARS-COV-1 and MERS in the early 2000’s, researchers found evidence of a serious problem. Teams of U.S. and foreign scientists vaccinated animals with the four most promising vaccines. At first, the experiment seemed successful as all the animals developed a robust antibody response to coronavirus. However, when the scientists exposed the vaccinated animals to the wild virus, the results were horrifying. Vaccinated animals suffered hyper-immune responses including inflammation throughout their bodies, especially in their lungs.


This issue is well known. Early in the COVID-19 scenario, Dr. Peter Hotez, of Baylor College of Medicine, testified before Congress about the dangers of accelerating coronavirus vaccine development, saying “(The) unique safety problem of coronavirus vaccines” was discovered 50 years ago while developing the Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) vaccine.”


He went to register that this “‘paradoxical immune enhancement phenomenon’ means vaccinated people may still develop the disease, get sicker and die.”


Researchers had seen this same “enhanced immune response” during human testing of the failed RSV vaccine tests in the 1950s. The vaccines not only failed to prevent infection; 80% of the children infected required hospitalization, and two children challenged with the RSV died (see Openshaw, 2005). In April of 2020, Hotez told CNN, “If there is immune enhancement in animals, that’s a showstopper.”


There’s been a serious terminology problem with this issue. The problem, of course, is not “immune enhancement,” which sounds like something helpful to the immune system. In fact, it is quite the opposite. The problem is, in reality “disease enhancement”; in fact, that is what it was called in the original RSV study. Disease enhancement now appears to be caused by initial exposure to a pathogen’s proteins, or parts of proteins, which primes the body to autoimmunity. That is “pathogenic priming.” In COVID-19, every protein in the SARS-CoV-2 has at least one epitope that matches human proteins someplace in the human body. About one-third of the epitopes in SARS-CoV-2 virus that match human proteins match immune system proteins.


The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Briefing Document on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine contains disturbing indications that might be a safety signal on pathogenic priming, especially in older adults. Before those are reviewed, there are fundamental issues with the classification of serious adverse events that reflect the short-term thinking and externalization-of-cost mindset of the vaccine safety science paradigm.


The first issue is the categorization of “Serious vs. Non-Serious” adverse events in the study and in the report. To a person experiencing neurologic adverse events including Bell’s Palsy, neuroinflammatory and thrombotic events, these events are not “non-serious” and can, over time, develop into life-threatening conditions that require continuous medical intervention and repeated billable office visits for care. The short-term study excludes any means of detecting whether the initial exposure may play a fundamental root cause role in setting up patients for life-long chronic illness. The vaccine adverse events themselves seen in the Pfizer study may be indicative of pathogenic priming, especially since more serious adverse events were seen with the second dose.


The second issue is that the design and analysis set-up of the study are biased against finding adverse events.


The report states:


“Among non-serious unsolicited adverse events, there was a numerical imbalance of four cases of Bell’s palsy in the vaccine group compared with no cases in the placebo group, though the four cases in the vaccine group do not represent a frequency above that expected in the general population.”


The comparison to baseline rates is meaningless because other vaccines are in use in the population. Thus, any risk due to the COVID-19 vaccine adds to or multiplies existing risk present in the population from other vaccines.


A 10-fold increase of serious adverse events on second dose in older adults on second dose, compared to 3.6-fold for those under 55

Among the 18-55 year-old participants, there were 370 solicited serious adverse events (SSAEs) in the vaccinated group and 73 in the unvaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 18% experienced SSAEs; in the placebo group, only 3% did, implying that SSAEs can be expected at a rate five times greater in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated.


These included severe fatigue, headache, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, muscle and joint pain. Whether these conditions represent instances of pathogenic priming, identifying individuals who are now at higher risk of serious morbidity and mortality if they become infected with SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, but given past studies, seems likely.


In the over 55 group, which was a smaller group, there were 60 SSAEs in the vaccinated group and 24 in the unvaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 6.5% experienced SAEs, compared to 1.4% in the unvaccinated, implying a 4.46% increased risk overall of SSAEs due to vaccination.


However, in the older group, the vaccinated group was 10 times more likely to have a SSAE upon receipt of the second vaccine dose than the first dose compared to the 1:1 ratio in the unvaccinated. In the younger group, the vaccinated were only 3.61 times more likely to have second-dose SSAEs than the age-matched placebo group, which had about as many SSAEs in the first and second dose.


Animal trials insufficient


The patients in the study reviewed were healthy — and thus the spectrum of adverse events is not representative of those that might occur if the vaccine comes to market. In the previous animal trials, the first dose was a vaccine, but the second was natural infection, leading to severe injury and often death. In these human trials, both doses were from the vaccine, so it is also not reassuring that these adverse events did not include the more serious and deadly conditions that afflicted animals.


These human trials did not rule out pathogenic priming in any way. Both the Moderna and Pfizer animal studies, which used non-human primates, failed to examine organ sites other than lung, and while they studied potential markers of pathogenic priming, they failed to measure one: interleukin-5 (IL-5), which had been found in prior coronavirus studies to be elevated in conjunction with pathogenic priming-induced disease enhancement.


Recalling that animal studies conducted on prior COVID vaccines found pathogenic priming leading to disease enhancement in older animals more than younger animals, older adults may be at highest risk of serious chronic illness due to autoimmunity resulting from vaccine-induced pathogenic priming. Dr. Anthony Fauci has informed the public that these vaccines do not stop transmission. Therefore, the next dose of the viral proteins in the form of a natural infection for these study participants — a SARS-CoV-2 infection leading to COVID19 — may be their last. The study should be extended to long-term follow up, including any further vaccination or exposure to SARS-CoV-2 viral proteins by infection.


So why have the world’s top vaccine promoters, like Paul Offit and Peter Hotez, been warning us frantically about the unique and frightening dangers inherent in developing a coronavirus vaccine?


In this video footage, Offit, Hotez and even Fauci (in an unguarded moment), warn that any new coronavirus vaccine could trigger lethal immune reactions, “vaccine enhancement,” when vaccinated people come in contact with the wild virus. Instead of proceeding with caution, Fauci made the reckless choice to fast track vaccines, partially funded by Gates, without critical animal studies before moving into human clinical trials that could provide early warning of runaway immune responses.


Gates (in this video) is so worried about the danger of adverse events that he says vaccines shouldn’t be distributed until governments agree to indemnify against lawsuits. On Feb. 4, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website, there were only 11 active CV cases in the U.S., yet the U.S. quietly pushed through federal regulations giving coronavirus vaccine makers full immunity from liability.


Are you willing to take the risk? Decide for yourself, based on the evidence.


Read these related studies:


2012 study:
Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus.


2005 study: Openshaw PJ, Tregoning JS. Immune responses and disease enhancement during respiratory syncytial virus infection. Clin Microbiol Rev. 2005 Jul;18(3):541-55. doi: 10.1128/CMR.18.3.541-555.2005. PMID: 16020689; PMCID: PMC1195968.

 

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December 11, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — In the development of vaccines against coronaviruses like SARS-COV-1 and MERS in the early 2000’s, researchers found evidence of a serious problem. Teams of U.S. and foreign scientists vaccinated animals with the four most promising vaccines. At first, the experiment seemed successful as all the animals developed a robust antibody response to coronavirus. However, when the scientists exposed the vaccinated animals to the wild virus, the results were horrifying. Vaccinated animals suffered hyper-immune responses including inflammation throughout their bodies, especially in their lungs.

This issue is well known. Early in the COVID-19 scenario, Dr. Peter Hotez, of Baylor College of Medicine, testified before Congress about the dangers of accelerating coronavirus vaccine development, saying “(The) unique safety problem of coronavirus vaccines” was discovered 50 years ago while developing the Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) vaccine.”

He went to register that this “‘paradoxical immune enhancement phenomenon’ means vaccinated people may still develop the disease, get sicker and die.”

Researchers had seen this same “enhanced immune response” during human testing of the failed RSV vaccine tests in the 1950s. The vaccines not only failed to prevent infection; 80% of the children infected required hospitalization, and two children challenged with the RSV died (see Openshaw, 2005). In April of 2020, Hotez told CNN, “If there is immune enhancement in animals, that’s a showstopper.”



There’s been a serious terminology problem with this issue. The problem, of course, is not “immune enhancement,” which sounds like something helpful to the immune system. In fact, it is quite the opposite. The problem is, in reality “disease enhancement”; in fact, that is what it was called in the original RSV study. Disease enhancement now appears to be caused by initial exposure to a pathogen’s proteins, or parts of proteins, which primes the body to autoimmunity. That is “pathogenic priming.” In COVID-19, every protein in the SARS-CoV-2 has at least one epitope that matches human proteins someplace in the human body. About one-third of the epitopes in SARS-CoV-2 virus that match human proteins match immune system proteins.

The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Briefing Document on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine contains disturbing indications that might be a safety signal on pathogenic priming, especially in older adults. Before those are reviewed, there are fundamental issues with the classification of serious adverse events that reflect the short-term thinking and externalization-of-cost mindset of the vaccine safety science paradigm.

Pfizer COVID vaccine trial shows alarming evidence of pathogenic priming in older adults | Opinion | LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)
 
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Canada introduces national compensation program for vaccine injuries ahead of pandemic vaccine rollout



People who are vaccinated to protect themselves against COVID-19 and experience an adverse event after the immunization will be eligible for compensation, the federal government says.

The announcement of the no-fault program is part of Canada's preparations to roll out coronavirus vaccines, beginning with the Pfizer-BioNtech version that will start to be administered next week.

Canada introduces national compensation program for vaccine injuries ahead of pandemic vaccine rollout (msn.com)
 
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Canada introduces national compensation program for vaccine injuries ahead of pandemic vaccine rollout



People who are vaccinated to protect themselves against COVID-19 and experience an adverse event after the immunization will be eligible for compensation, the federal government says.

The announcement of the no-fault program is part of Canada's preparations to roll out coronavirus vaccines, beginning with the Pfizer-BioNtech version that will start to be administered next week.

Canada introduces national compensation program for vaccine injuries ahead of pandemic vaccine rollout (msn.com)
Not good enough, individuals need the right to file civil suits against the drug companies instead of government tossing them a few dollars to shut up and go away.
 

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Increased danger of vaccinating following lockdowns and widespread mask use

With the information that is now available to the government regarding the death rate associated with COVID-19, Deisher suggests that “public health officials [should] take an honest, objective look at data and change our policy.” She asserts that “we know a lot about this disease now and the hype and the passion over it is wildly out of proportion.” And yet the government continue to impose harsh restrictions that impact on “children, mental health, suicide, domestic abuse,” Deisher observed. She decried the government’s response to the data, saying: “now we know there's no justification for what we are doing and instead [the government] just do more: ‘oh that didn't work let's do more’. I mean, yeah, that's not rational.”

“All the control is no longer about COVID-19 anymore,” Coffin suggested. “Now it's about [the] oligarchic ability to inflame the masses with irrational fear. You know, a populace that's full of fear is very easy to manage.”


In response Deisher explained that “[if] you are in fear your cortisol levels go up and cortisol kills your immune cells, so fear is bad for a healthy immune system.”

“If you isolate, if you lock down and you're not exposed to bacteria or pathogens or viruses, your immune system takes a break, and if you wear a mask you also can hinder [the] functioning of your immune system,” she continued.

Exasperated at the effect mask wearing has on healthy people, Deisher observed that “we have people wearing masks, I mean I see them out by themselves, no one in sight, walking their dogs: they're terrified, they're wearing masks and they're locked down.” Rather grimly, she added that “when they come out, they're not going to have immune systems.”

When asked about the effectiveness of masks against catching the virus, Deishner said “no, masks do not work. 87% of new [COVID-19] cases in the U.S. almost always wear a mask, so it looks like the masks increase your risk of getting infected about 12-fold.”

On account of government mandates having suppressed people’s immune systems, Deisher stated: “[t]o think about mass vaccination of populations whose immune systems are not working well because of how this has been handled: I don't know what will happen, I think that's frightening.” She continued, saying “50% of our population is immunocompromised so I think it's going to be frightening to see what happens as they go vaccinate.”

In contradiction to locking down and masking up, experts have shown that getting fresh air and exercise contributes to building a strong immune system. Moreover, numerous studies show that, by supplementing your vitamin D intake and maintaining a balanced diet, one can reduce the severity of any symptoms, should they contract COVID.

Deisher said that she would not take either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, referencing that an mRNA vaccine has never been authorized before and that “the potential dangers and side effects from those vaccines are quite high and quite plausible.”

COVID-19 ‘warp speed’ vaccines likely not safe and not needed, medical expert says | News | Lifesitenews
 

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TORONTO — The Ontario government has developed a three-phase implementation plan to receive, store and administer COVID-19 vaccines to Ontarians as soon as they are received. Phase One will begin on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 with a pilot project in Toronto and Ottawa which will include the vaccination of over 2,500 health care workers with the Health Canada approved Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.


Details were provided today by Premier Doug Ford, Christine Elliott, Deputy Premier and Minister of Health, Solicitor General Sylvia Jones and General Rick Hillier (retired), Chair of the COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution Task Force.
"We are ready to receive these vaccines as soon as they become available thanks to the excellent work of our health care officials and General Hillier and the COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution Task Force," said Premier Ford. "We have one of the most robust and comprehensive plans in the country and I am confident that all the necessary security measures and the advanced logistics systems are in place. The progress we are making is a welcome sign, but we must continue to be vigilant and follow the public health guidelines until vaccines are widely available.
 

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Health Canada is now strongly urging anyone with severe allergies to not get the Pfizer vaccine. Yet they tell us it’s perfectly safe.
 
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this keeps getting better and better


Health Canada warns people with COVID-19 ingredient allergies as cases surpass 450K



As cases of the novel coronavirus continue to surge ahead of the holiday season, Canadian health officials are now warning that people with any allergies to COVID-19 vaccine ingredients should not take it.

The warning comes amid news of two people in the United Kingdom having experienced severe allergic reactions to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a statement from Health Canada released Saturday. Both of those people had a history of severe allergies and have since recovered after experiencing their reactions on Tuesday.

Health Canada warns people with COVID-19 ingredient allergies as cases surpass 450K (msn.com)
 

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Health Canada is now strongly urging anyone with severe allergies to not get the Pfizer vaccine. Yet they tell us it’s perfectly safe.
No one says it's "perfectly safe", as in 100% safe, to get vaccinated. Likewise no one is 100% safe from being killed by lightning. Condom use is called "safe sex", but obviously not 100% safe.
 

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Health Canada is now strongly urging anyone with severe allergies to not get the Pfizer vaccine. Yet they tell us it’s perfectly safe
I told you dumbass Lefties to wait a bit.

Wait it out a bit, lets see what the side-effects are for the next year or two
 
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IN OCTOBER

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More died by lightning strikes. Which are statistically insignificant.

I have to laugh at people (largely conspiracy nut job covidiots) who are more afraid of a vaccine than the health destroying C-19.

Keep hiding under your bed from getting a needle jab ;
I'm sure I'll take the vaccine, but to call this a needle jab is disingenuous. There are serious potential risks and there are other solutions, other types of vaccine with far fewer risks, or do nothing and wait it out.
 

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Sounds like a sequel to the Sherman killings.
 
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