Conspiracies

[Tomoreno]

Anyway, I knew this was a lost cause from the start, but I thought I’d try nevertheless.

We have a problem in modern society; everyone thinks they have a valid point of view, a priori. I think social media has made this already prevalent issue worse, because it has given everyone a voice. The reality is, not all opinions are created equal, as we don’t all possess the same hardware to process and understand information. On top of this, we certainly don’t possess the same education and knowledge base.

Im sure as a person you have much to offer, and I believe you are fully deserving of as much respect as anyone. But your post shows you have zero scientific training. Relativity, quantum mechanics and basically every modern theory of physics runs entirely counter to our common sense perceptions of the universe. Even Newtonian physics and much of general chemistry runs counter to our intuitive experience of the world. Common sense and science are at odds in most scenarios; this is objective truth. Have you heard of the most famous of all scientific equations? E = mc^2? Do you understand it’s “meaning?” Care to try to explain it to us in a way that doesn’t defy common sense?

I wish you all the best and hope you’re able to acknowledge your strengths moving forward. Maybe start by reading the very simple and easy to understand article I linked. You are not correct here, and that’s ok! We’ve all been wrong from time to time. Science and critical thinking are not your strong suits but as I said before I’m sure you have many others

And now I’ll return to reading reviews about women I’d like to pay to fuck: I should have known not to journey into this hellhole called the lounge.

Nicely composed peace of xxxx.
Very little substance behind it.
You know absolutely nothing about physics, so please concentrate on pussy and fucks.
I can list a dosen of things that was wrong with any of listed so called conspiracies... doubt that you'll understand

 

[Tomoreno]

Umm are you on crack? The video clearly says BUK was the culprit. If BUK company said that, the heads would roll, and not figuratively. Logic?
I am putting you on ignore. Consider getting help.

You're extremely misled. Wanting to hear one side is by definition biased. Wanna ignore me? Whatever tickles your fanny!

 

[Tomoreno]

This is patently wrong and makes zero sense.

Friction is a resistive force, by definition it impedes motion and is a vector quantity that runs in the opposite direction of whatever motion is occurring. It, by definition impedes motion, not enables it.

I’m not even really sure what you’re trying to say here? Inertia? Kinetic energy? Work? It seems you don’t have a grasp on even the most basic terms of Newtonian physics. Again, not a problem, and doesn’t make you a bad person, but maybe don’t talk like you’ve “studied” this stuff when clearly you know virtually nothing about the subject.

Ha! You just sank yourself with this statement! Shows how much you understand about physics!!!
I'd seek help while it's not too late.

 

[Tomoreno]

OK, so now I know you’re either a troll, or not worth my time. If you’d like to verify what I’ve said about what friction is, feel free to google.

Motion occurs when energy is transferred from one object to another, or when potential energy (such as gravitational or electric/magnetic) is converted to kinetic energy. Friction is not necessary for motion, and again, by definition, impedes it.

Tell us, oh great physicist, what “friction” causes the earth to revolve around the sun?

I learned this stuff in school, looong time ago... and aced my exams.
I'm going to have my sleep now, then I'll educate ya. Stay tuned!
Btw, you'll be disappointed

 

[Darts]

Let's not forget the "Bettman Conspiracy". No Canadian NHL team will win the Cup as long as Bettman is alive. Just kidding, maybe.

 

[Mr.lover]

Wow I did not think there was that much fucked up people here. Conspiracy theories, as lemonis and shack mentioned the more people involved the less the chance of the truth being hidden.
For conspiracy theorists an event happened that goes against their beliefs or expectations so it cannot be true, some other explanation is warranted and the facts are manipulated by someone. Grasping at straws to make it logical in their messed up heads. Really? Moon landing was a fraud, earth is flat, election fraud.. give me a fucking break, go beat off to porn and stop wasting my time.

 

[jerimander]

Wow I did not think there was that much fucked up people here. Conspiracy theories, as lemonis and shack mentioned the more people involved the less the chance of the truth being hidden.
For conspiracy theorists an event happened that goes against their beliefs or expectations so it cannot be true, some other explanation is warranted and the facts are manipulated by someone. Grasping at straws to make it logical in their messed up heads. Really? Moon landing was a fraud, earth is flat, election fraud.. give me a fucking break, go beat off to porn and stop wasting my time.

No one made you read the thread except yourself.

 

[luvyeah]

 

[glamphotographer]

This thread should be moved to the fake news/conspiracy forum.

 

[y2kmark]

Here's one that might actually have some substance. President Obama was recently interviewed, and when asked to comment on the recent UFO report stated "I can't comment" What is the US Government covering up here? Could Trump be some sort of human puppet with an embedded Trill type alien pulling the strings? This could explain a few things....

 

[Insidious Von]

What DWhitman describes is exactly what happened to the WTC.

As an ex-former, the WTC had a major design flaw that the terrorists knew well. The load was supported by the exterior structure and the elevator shaft with no much in between. They had been trying to bring it down since the attack in 93. Once the planes hit them, it was like cracking an egg. The trusses between floors buckled under the intense heat causing the buildings to pancake. What hasn't been discussed is what happened to the third building, did it's foundation crack from the ripple effect of the WTC collapsing, we still don't know.

 

[glamphotographer]

There is a place on facebook for this shit.

 

[glamphotographer]

Wow I did not think there was that much fucked up people here. Conspiracy theories, as lemonis and shack mentioned the more people involved the less the chance of the truth being hidden.
For conspiracy theorists an event happened that goes against their beliefs or expectations so it cannot be true, some other explanation is warranted and the facts are manipulated by someone. Grasping at straws to make it logical in their messed up heads. Really? Moon landing was a fraud, earth is flat, election fraud.. give me a fucking break, go beat off to porn and stop wasting my time.

These guys don't masturbate to porn, they masturbate to AON and Newsmax.

 

[luvyeah]

2.5 hours, this guy is literally running a cult.

 

[Tomoreno]

OK, so now I know you’re either a troll, or not worth my time. If you’d like to verify what I’ve said about what friction is, feel free to google.

Motion occurs when energy is transferred from one object to another, or when potential energy (such as gravitational or electric/magnetic) is converted to kinetic energy. Friction is not necessary for motion, and again, by definition, impedes it.

Tell us, oh great physicist, what “friction” causes the earth to revolve around the sun?

You might have some basic understanding of what Friction is but not how it's applied in physics.
Any surface you make a contact with has friction coefficient.
The higher the coefficient is - more friction you'll get.
Pavement will have a higher coefficient than ice. You'll be able to accelerate and stop much faster.
If there was no friction - you won't be able to take off or stop.
You wouldn't be able to pick up anything. It'll just slide out of your hands.

No friction - no motion.

What If There Was No Friction for 1 Minute?

INSH | Rubbing things together creates, not destroys...

insh.world

 

[Robert Mugabe]

It's already been splained to me on here. After the obligatory face plant. building number 7 was brought down by burning office furniture.

 

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2.5 hours, this guy is literally running a cult.

lol he says he is against cults

I thought he presented some good perspectives on cult psychology but he also clearly shows his biases.

Although I am having less and less faith in the guy and what he stands for.

In example he talks about being unbiased, Actualizing, standing for love, consciousness etc.. but he is clearly biased against the right and trump supporters and you can tell in his tone and the way he speaks that he is contradicting his fundamental message. He should fight as strong as he speaks against the sides, empathize and try to understand like he tries to portray. It’s kind of funny that he doesn’t see that. In this video he even try’s to understand murderers and rapist and show empathy and understanding to all sides but he constantly just rips on trump. Also he goes a little too overboard with his god talk.

Regardless it’s still new and good perspectives to consider and most of his content is thought provoking and mind opening.

But I agree he still has a lot of wrinkles to iron out and some of them he is not even aware of.

 

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My take on conspiracies is that it can be a slippery slope and become like a mind virus and spread toxic within and to others. Need to be very careful with them or you can start spiraling downward towards crazy territory.

On the other hand some conspiracies are quite real and it’s important to understand them and determine if it’s worth your time to fight and try to expose.

Sometimes “influencers” infiltrate and purposely generate conspiracy theories to undermine legitimate ones and the ones who are trying to do what is right. Why because it’s like why do people straw man and troll. Some could be on purpose in an effort to undermine the people fighting to expose legit conspiracy. It’s like people standing for prison reform and releasing all these criminals on the streets and standing for abolishing the cops. You can clearly see the many parties benefiting for such movement and the people who get caught up in it.

I think it’s just the nature of our social dynamics.

 

[Tomoreno]

9/11 wasn't just about WTO buildings. There was pentagon and Flight 93.

I remember watching it live 19 years ago and thinking "no way, buildings don't fall like that"..."what? Plane hit pentagon? Where is it?" I questioned what I saw waaay before any conspiracy versions. A lot of what I saw didn't make sense.

- Planes blew up, but terrorist's passport survived so they could ID him?
- Fire melted structure of the building, but all I saw was black smoke. Fuel burned in explosion. Did burning office furniture melt the building?
- steel melts at a temperature of 2,777 degrees Fahrenheit, but jet fuel burns at only 1,517 degrees F. No melted steel, no collapsed towers.
- Buildings fell straight down at a speed of free fall as if nothing was supporting it. Didn't fall to one side or another. Straight down. All 3 buildings.
- First 2 planes burned and melted all structural support. Why didn't Pentagon building burn? Where were plane parts like fuselage, wings, 6 ton titanium Rolls-Royce engines etc.? Nada! All vanished. Lawn was perfectly green, light poles not hit by wings...
- how many casualties in Pentagon hit? What??? Not one?
- Flight 93 fell in Pennsylvania. Just as with Pentagon site of the crash has 0 plane parts. Vanished.
- All people who said they heard explosions when building were coming down - retracted earlier statements

And there's a lot more weird stuff.

 

[Tomoreno]

My take on conspiracies is that it can be a slippery slope and become like a mind virus and spread toxic within and to others. Need to be very careful with them or you can start spiraling downward towards crazy territory.

On the other hand some conspiracies are quite real and it’s important to understand them and determine if it’s worth your time to fight and try to expose.

Sometimes “influencers” infiltrate and purposely generate conspiracy theories to undermine legitimate ones and the ones who are trying to do what is right. Why because it’s like why do people straw man and troll. Some could be on purpose in an effort to undermine the people fighting to expose legit conspiracy. I think it’s just the nature of our social dynamics.

Beliving every theory with no substance isn't very smart.

Religion for example sells an invisible product. No way to prove or disprove it.
It's all about faith, feelings, senses.
Many many different religions, but it is agreed that we leave it alone.

There are some events where official versions just don't add up. Majority will bite on whatever. The idea is that we can't question it because it will be deemed a conspiracy. And if you believe in any - you're crazy.