Poor Dutchie! I hope you've been sending funds to Trumpy for all these legal challenges. He needs your help, America needs your help to protect the right from getting ripped off and never ever holding office again! $$$$$$$ send it NOW and make a difference!
The election litigation thread
- Thread starter Dutch Oven
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A serious answer, then.
1) I will spot you the "appropriate credentials". So far, that hasn't held up much in the people the lawsuits have brought forward, but let's give you this one. I am giving you this because voting systems having vulnerabilities is a known thing, going back years. It really is a problem that needs to be fixed.
2a) That the system is vulnerable to tampering does not mean there is evidence of tampering.
2b) "A reasonable inference that tampering has occurred" isn't very convincing. Not having seen the Arizona presentation, I cannot say how compelling that collection of circumstantial evidence is.
3) How compelling that evidence is plays into whether the relief asked is reasonable. Compelling evidence of discrepency bringing relief of an audit doesn't seem outrageous. It depends on the laws involved in Arizona. (So far all the mandated audits have shown no sign of tampering.) Cessation of the certification process is a harder lift. De-certifying without extremely strong evidence seems unlikely. Declaring the state has to declare Trump is the victor is a remedy that would require massive proof.
So it all depends on this "statistical evidence", really. That the machines are theoretically vulnerable doesn't get you very far. "My door was unlocked" isn't actually proof that someone stole something from my house.
The only issue with humouring bud is that it misses the big picture.
Polls projected 7-8% Biden lead but the numbers came back 5-6%.
So if there was any electoral fuckery statistically its way more likely to have been in Trump's favour already.
Other than that, going to court based on your feelies that something is making your pants itch about the election only works on Fox and Newsmax.
More trouble for Trump's lawyer, Powell.
Turns out she altered documents and submitted them to court.
She claimed that Dominion's polling machines weren't certified but cut off the date from the document and submitted it.
That is sanctionable.
Turns out she altered documents and submitted them to court.
She claimed that Dominion's polling machines weren't certified but cut off the date from the document and submitted it.
That is sanctionable.
If that is legit and she did do that, I hope the state does ask for sanctions...
Its legit, she submitted that doc specifically to argue they didn't include a date.
The date she cut off of the bottom.
Sorry but you are so wrapped up in what lawyers consider professional ethics that you are unable to see what the general public views things. It's not a matter of what is legal or what fits the standards of practice within the profession but what the public sees.
Most people are willing to understand why a lawyer will take on a disgusting client who is charged with a crime but Trump's lawyers pursuit of a case with zero evidence and zero chance of success makes them earn the designation of ambulance chasers.
If that is true and it was done intentionally she should be disbarred. that is an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon the court.
There is no election fraud everyone knows it, even Dickstain Donald knows it now.
The farce of still going on with the election fraud claims is so that Dickstain Donald and the Klan can pocket some money from constant fundraising, they’ve been fundraising for almost a month now.
The farce of still going on with the election fraud claims is so that Dickstain Donald and the Klan can pocket some money from constant fundraising, they’ve been fundraising for almost a month now.
Who cares if Rudy and Powell gets disbarred!
Trump has already pocketed $150 million from crying fraud.
Why would he stop now?
Reports: Trump Raised At Least $150 Million For His Election Challenges—Most Of It Isn’t Going To That
Most of the money is being siphoned into Trump’s new political action committee, which could be used to fund his next move post-presidency.
www.forbes.com
MIchigan hearing before Michigan Senate:
Michigan House Oversight Committee hearing will be today (at 6 pm, I believe).
Michigan House Oversight Committee hearing will be today (at 6 pm, I believe).
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Technical testimony before Michigan Senate on vote technology vulnerability, and circumstantial evidence of tampering:
The theory of the Amistad (another election litigant) cases, including statements by USPS contractor whistleblowers:
Sure, investigate the USPS and what role it played in the election if you like.
Trump admits he is undermining USPS to make it harder to vote by mail
The president says he opposes providing additional money to the postal service to help it deliver mail-in ballots
www.theguardian.com
SSure, investigate the USPS and what role it played in the election if you like.
Trump admits he is undermining USPS to make it harder to vote by mail
The president says he opposes providing additional money to the postal service to help it deliver mail-in ballots
