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Dutch Oven

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Bud, when you buy a used car next, take it to a mechanic and have it inspected before you pay for it.

Donor sues pro-Trump group over failure to prove voter fraud: 'Empty promises'

You bought a lemon from a conman.

With the new batch of affidavits, did Rudy get rid of all the ones that used numbers from MInnesota but said they were Michigan?

Did they get rid of all the spam affidavits as well?
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Dutch Oven

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Since the architect of this mess in Pennsylvania as well as a Democrat sycophant talking head think everything's ok is there no longer a need for the court and/or the legislature to hear the evidence and make a decision? Or is this all par for the course, and irrelevant?
Wrong! The architect of the mess is the Trump campaign!
You talk in circles with no reasonable conclusion...just stop.
 

Dutch Oven

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Here's an article that's a lot more interesting than a Pennsylvania Democrat claiming "nothing to see here":

 

Frankfooter

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Here's an article that's a lot more interesting than a Pennsylvania Democrat claiming "nothing to see here":
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Biden was polling 8-9% higher than Trump yet you think somehow there was fraud because Trump lost by only 6% or so?
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Even Trump's donors know they are being conned.
You really are an easy mark.
 

Dutch Oven

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Biden was polling 8-9% higher than Trump yet you think somehow there was fraud because Trump lost by only 6% or so?
That's S

Even Trump's donors know they are being conned.
You really are an easy mark.
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Frankfooter

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Yes, your article is really stupid.
Trump is the most polarizing POTUS since Nixon yet you seemed surprised that more people got off their couches to vote.
Even after so many people were on the streets protesting him all summer long.

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Dutch Oven

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Yes, your article is really stupid.
Trump is the most polarizing POTUS since Nixon yet you seemed surprised that more people got off their couches to vote.
Even after so many people were on the streets protesting him all summer long.

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Dutch Oven

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Here's someone who makes a lot of sense:

 
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Valcazar

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Here's an article that's a lot more interesting than a Pennsylvania Democrat claiming "nothing to see here":

The Federalist is turning into Q with better vocabulary.

1. 80 Million Votes
Yes - People really fucking hate Trump and wanted him gone.

2. Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties
Bellwether counties is one of those meaningless correlations that are funny to observe but don't mean anything really. There is no reason to assume any county in a changing population would stay a bellwether.

3. Biden Trailed Clinton Except in a Select Few Cities
Fascinating if true, but doesn't provide evidence. Votes exceeding registered voters isn't surprising in a high turnout election in places that have same day registration.

4. Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else
If anything, given the polling, this is evidence that the Republicans cheated downballot.

5. Biden Overcame Trump’s Commanding Primary Vote
This is almost comically stupid. It's that ridiculous model people put up more than once that primary voting should correlate to general voting. This is a dumb model that doesn't seem to have any real basis behind it.


I do like how the subtext here is "We cheated. We rigged things and suppressed votes. How did they outvote us despite our cheating? They must have cheated more!"
 

jerimander

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The voting machines are the key to understanding how the election was stolen.

 

mandrill

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Here's an article that's a lot more interesting than a Pennsylvania Democrat claiming "nothing to see here":

Dutch, your guy lost. He lost huuuuge.

He lost because he was polarizing and divisive and more people hated his ass than liked him. But because he was a cartoon figure president devoid of the normal gravitas, he attracted larger numbers of voters both pro and con than any politician - or asshole - ever before in American history.

Everybody voted this time, unlike in previous elections where there was a "meh" factor. That's because Trump was such an asshole. Many people like an asshole. But many more despise an asshole. And that is simply what happened.

Biden had fewer primary votes?.... So? Nobody who hated Trump gave a shit who replaced him. The uniting factor for 80 million Americans - including the entire US branch of the Mandrill family - is how Trump made them utterly sick to their stomach with everything he said and did. My family would have voted for a poodle turd, if that was the only way to evict Trump from the WH. And that is why all the normal elements of a normal presidential election were missing this time.
 

kherg007

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Biden underperformed the pre election polling.
 

Dutch Oven

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Dutch, your guy lost. He lost huuuuge.

He lost because he was polarizing and divisive and more people hated his ass than liked him. But because he was a cartoon figure president devoid of the normal gravitas, he attracted larger numbers of voters both pro and con than any politician - or asshole - ever before in American history.

Everybody voted this time, unlike in previous elections where there was a "meh" factor. That's because Trump was such an asshole. Many people like an asshole. But many more despise an asshole. And that is simply what happened.

Biden had fewer primary votes?.... So? Nobody who hated Trump gave a shit who replaced him. The uniting factor for 80 million Americans - including the entire US branch of the Mandrill family - is how Trump made them utterly sick to their stomach with everything he said and did. My family would have voted for a poodle turd, if that was the only way to evict Trump from the WH. And that is why all the normal elements of a normal presidential election were missing this time.
I look forward to reading your counter article in the Federalist.
 

mandrill

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I look forward to reading your counter article in the Federalist.
I doubt The Federalist publishes anyone who has mainstream opinions, Dutch.

But you know something?... No matter how many Federalist articles you read and applaud, Trump still got his ballsack reamed in this election. You lost. You will still have lost on 20 January 2021 when I watch Ridin' Joe get inaugurated. And you'll lose again in 2024 when an even more senile and saggy-faced Trump gets beaten again. So in the meantime, enjoy your reading.
 

Dutch Oven

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I doubt The Federalist publishes anyone who has mainstream opinions, Dutch.

But you know something?... No matter how many Federalist articles you read and applaud, Trump still got his ballsack reamed in this election. You lost. You will still have lost on 20 January 2021 when I watch Ridin' Joe get inaugurated. And you'll lose again in 2024 when an even more senile and saggy-faced Trump gets beaten again. So in the meantime, enjoy your reading.
You need to work on your trash talking. "Ridin' Joe"? Nobody calls him that outside of a pizza parlour!
 

mandrill

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You need to work on your trash talking. "Ridin' Joe"? Nobody calls him that outside of a pizza parlour!
I call him that, Dutch. Because it's the sort of nickname you give a dude who kicks assholes out of town. So it fits him.

So here's your boy referring to THREE GOP conservative judges as "judicial activists" because they laughed his crappy PA election challenges out of court. He's a sore poo-poo bum-bum loser, isn't he?


 
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Dutch Oven

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I call him that, Dutch. Because it's the sort of nickname you give a dude who kicks assholes out of town. So it fits him.

So here's your boy referring to THREE GOP conservative judges as "judicial activists" because they laughed his crappy PA election challenges out of court. He's a sore poo-poo bum-bum loser, isn't he?


George Conway - world's worst husband and most bitter anti-trumper on the planet (he's a woman scorned and all). Somehow, I find the prospect of following him anywhere to be unappealling and unwise.

Did the judges really laugh? It seems unlikely. Very poor judicial conduct if it were true.

There are so many cases. Some of them don't deserve to be successful, in my opinion. But it matters not, because only certain of these cases matter, and only their final disposition at their final level of appeal really matters.

I'll be shocked if ANY trial level judge has the stones to overturn a state wide presidential election, no matter what the pleadings or evidence. The task at hand for the Trump team is really just to get their entire case on the record. Even if they were to win at trial level, any wins would be appealed by the DEMs.

Seems like we're in about the 5th inning. To early to call it.

If George could run the 100 yards of a football field, seems like he'd be the kind of guy who starts celebrating at the 10 and gets the ball knocked out of his hands at the 5.

 
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